Will Trump drop Vance?

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The real question is will Trump drop Trump? He's senile, a felon, a serial sex assaulter, a con man, and too damn old.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone said JD looks like a Duggar and I can’t unsee it.

Like the pedo son.

So calling a look alike to a pedo son is acceptable dialogue?

The guy looks like Josh Duggar. He just does. And pretty much everything has been acceptable dialogue since that ride down the escalator nine years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely. That guy has landed like a ton of bricks. Business community HATES him.

And it's the only way he can do anything to break some of Harris' momentum.

The bad news is it will be very hard to do, he'll have to choose someone softer (which will enrage his base) and it still won't make a dent in K's momentum.

Yeah I don’t see any way this would help him. It makes him look disloyal and indecisive, and if he picks someone besides an another white man his base will just yell “DEI” at him or her.

What does the business community hate? I thought he was in the hands of big tech? All women hating this “cat ladies control us”, “women should stay with abusers for the kids” prolifer… now that I get.

Here’s a full thread on it, but basically:

1) pro crypto - no one who is serous in business wants that
2) and this is the big one: he’s pro tariff which is a populist crowd pleaser but is incredibly inflationary and bad for business - Wall Street donors are slamming shut their checkbooks. They might not go for Harris but they WILL NOT spend a dime electing a pro tariff guy
3) with Trump in such fragile health, he’s not expected to last more than 18 months without being incapacitated or dying, so it’s not a joke to the business sector
4) tech is not backing him, a FEW tech guys are but he’s alienated his biggest benefactors - see the thread for details on that

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1218126.page

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Anonymous wrote:Someone said JD looks like a Duggar and I can’t unsee it.

Like the pedo son.

So calling a look alike to a pedo son is acceptable dialogue?

The guy looks like Josh Duggar. He just does. And pretty much everything has been acceptable dialogue since that ride down the escalator nine years ago.

I think it’s fair to say he looks like Josh Duggar. It doesn’t mean he does the same stuff. Anyway I thought republicans liked the duggars?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone said JD looks like a Duggar and I can’t unsee it.

Like the pedo son.

So calling a look alike to a pedo son is acceptable dialogue?

JD is the one who wrote he thought he was gay. And he’s the one who didn’t write about a single ex girlfriend from age 15 to 25. First girlfriend is a law classmate he met in his mid 20 and then he married? And he chose to seek out a notoriously degenerate gay billionaire to mentor him? It’s all very sus, as the kids say.

Again, being gay is one thing. He can be gay if he wants.

But calling someone a pedophile on this board is just as bad as calling Kamala a slut who slept with married men..

No one called him a pedo. Someone said he looked like another Republican who is in federal prison for being a pedo.

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t JD photographed at rallies holding his kids? Seems very odd.

NP. I hate the man, but this is just good parenting. Politicians that exploit their young children are grotesque.

Give it time—this man will do the grossest things you can imagine to get ahead.

Probably. But for now at least, not exploiting his kids on the campaign trail like other politicians do is actually one of the few marks in his favor.

Be real—he doesn’t want to be photographed with his kids because mixed-race kids are going to turn off his degenerate base.

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Also the oldest failson liked him the best.

That's hilarious. Thanks for the new word.

You’re welcome! It comes in handy when discussing Succession as well.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

Tim Alberta is a respected political journalist. I know you’re panicking but don’t blame the messenger.

Who are his sources?

He’s published extensive interviews with Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita recently.

Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita said Trump's running mate J.D. Vance is “going to be everywhere” ahead of the election.

Speaking at an event hosted by Brunswick and Georgetown University, LaCivita said the populist Ohioan is “a person we can plug in really anywhere” and will "attract a wider coalition of voters to Trump than we had before.” He cited Vance’s appeal to young and working-class voters.

“We're actually redefining I think the Republican Party in a lot of different ways,” he said, noting Trump’s appeal to the working class.

“That's clearly an issue that bothers the left but it's one we feel passionate about. And quite frankly it's a place where we should have been for a long time.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/16/rnc-live-updates-coverage/get-ready-for-vance-00168709

How would Vance appeal to young voters? He looks old.

And he has zero rizz. He’s a massive dork. A con man with no huckster charm.

They weren’t considering anyone with rizz because in that job you can’t take any attention off of or steal any thunder from Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone said JD looks like a Duggar and I can’t unsee it.

Like the pedo son.

So calling a look alike to a pedo son is acceptable dialogue?

JD is the one who wrote he thought he was gay. And he’s the one who didn’t write about a single ex girlfriend from age 15 to 25. First girlfriend is in a law classmate he met in his mid 20 and then he married? And he chose to seek out a notoriously degenerate gay billionaire to mentor him? It’s all very sus, as the kids say.

Again, being gay is one thing. He can be gay if he wants.

But calling someone a pedophile on this board is just as bad as calling Kamala a slut who slept with married men..

No one called him a pedo. Someone said he looked like another Republican who is in federal prison for being a pedo.

It’s not Vance’s fault he looks just like a guy who had tons of child porn on his computer.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

Tim Alberta is a respected political journalist. I know you’re panicking but don’t blame the messenger.

Who are his sources?

He’s published extensive interviews with Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita recently.

Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita said Trump's running mate J.D. Vance is “going to be everywhere” ahead of the election.

Speaking at an event hosted by Brunswick and Georgetown University, LaCivita said the populist Ohioan is “a person we can plug in really anywhere” and will "attract a wider coalition of voters to Trump than we had before.” He cited Vance’s appeal to young and working-class voters.

“We're actually redefining I think the Republican Party in a lot of different ways,” he said, noting Trump’s appeal to the working class.

“That's clearly an issue that bothers the left but it's one we feel passionate about. And quite frankly it's a place where we should have been for a long time.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/16/rnc-live-updates-coverage/get-ready-for-vance-00168709

How would Vance appeal to young voters? He looks old.

And how would he appeal to the working class? He went to an Ivy League school and then went into a high-paid white collar job.

And wrote an entire book about how all the travails of the working class are their own fault.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

Tim Alberta is a respected political journalist. I know you’re panicking but don’t blame the messenger.

Who are his sources?

He’s published extensive interviews with Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita recently.

Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita said Trump's running mate J.D. Vance is “going to be everywhere” ahead of the election.

Speaking at an event hosted by Brunswick and Georgetown University, LaCivita said the populist Ohioan is “a person we can plug in really anywhere” and will "attract a wider coalition of voters to Trump than we had before.” He cited Vance’s appeal to young and working-class voters.

“We're actually redefining I think the Republican Party in a lot of different ways,” he said, noting Trump’s appeal to the working class.

“That's clearly an issue that bothers the left but it's one we feel passionate about. And quite frankly it's a place where we should have been for a long time.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/16/rnc-live-updates-coverage/get-ready-for-vance-00168709

How would Vance appeal to young voters? He looks old.

And he has zero rizz. He’s a massive dork. A con man with no huckster charm.

They weren’t considering anyone with rizz because in that job you can’t take any attention off of or steal any thunder from Trump.

But going so far the other way that they wound up with a guy whose now being forced to deny he’s a couch effer seems like they overshot the target.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

No, they can't. Vance's name is already on the paperwork, so to speak. And I agree, Vance is a bad choice. Chameleon, grifter, flip flopper. It's like his whole life is checking boxes so he can play any part on a whim.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

No, they can't. Vance's name is already on the paperwork, so to speak. And I agree, Vance is a bad choice. Chameleon, grifter, flip flopper. It's like his whole life is checking boxes so he can play any part on a whim.

Do you have a source for this? I've been trying to find a definite answer that says he can't pick someone else legally.


I mean surely there are exception, right? What happens if the VP pick falls ill or has a sudden personal tragedy that demands all their attention and they need to drop out

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

No, they can't. Vance's name is already on the paperwork, so to speak. And I agree, Vance is a bad choice. Chameleon, grifter, flip flopper. It's like his whole life is checking boxes so he can play any part on a whim.

Do you have a source for this? I've been trying to find a definite answer that says he can't pick someone else legally.


I mean surely there are exception, right? What happens if the VP pick falls ill or has a sudden personal tragedy that demands all their attention and they need to drop out

Google Senator Eagleton

[Anonymous]

OK so far the first millennial on a presidential ticket has left his Venmo public and his Spotify public and his ancient blog public.