Will Trump drop Vance?

[Anonymous]

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Let's steer clear of irrelevant comparisons, OK?

It's not relevant to mention that any candidate running for office looks like a pedo guy, or that they might be gay because they didn't have many girlfriends, or that any of them slept to the top, or anything like that.

The truth is, Vance is not ready for Prime time. Just like Harris wasn't ready for Prime time in 2020. Now she is. Trump was his own crass energetic self in 2016, and now he's in physical and mental decline.

So Harris is well-positioned in terms of debate/speech/presentation, and this might compensate for the obvious racist and misogynist barriers that she faces. Especially if she picks a VP who is more attuned to his audience than Vance.

He's also repellent to the party's biggest donor base: the financial industry.

That’s a net positive in my eyes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

Tim Alberta is a respected political journalist. I know you’re panicking but don’t blame the messenger.

Who are his sources?

He’s published extensive interviews with Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita recently.

Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita said Trump's running mate J.D. Vance is “going to be everywhere” ahead of the election.

Speaking at an event hosted by Brunswick and Georgetown University, LaCivita said the populist Ohioan is “a person we can plug in really anywhere” and will "attract a wider coalition of voters to Trump than we had before.” He cited Vance’s appeal to young and working-class voters.

“We're actually redefining I think the Republican Party in a lot of different ways,” he said, noting Trump’s appeal to the working class.

“That's clearly an issue that bothers the left but it's one we feel passionate about. And quite frankly it's a place where we should have been for a long time.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/16/rnc-live-updates-coverage/get-ready-for-vance-00168709

How would Vance appeal to young voters? He looks old.

And he has zero rizz. He’s a massive dork. A con man with no huckster charm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Let's steer clear of irrelevant comparisons, OK?

It's not relevant to mention that any candidate running for office looks like a pedo guy, or that they might be gay because they didn't have many girlfriends, or that any of them slept to the top, or anything like that.

The truth is, Vance is not ready for Prime time. Just like Harris wasn't ready for Prime time in 2020. Now she is. Trump was his own crass energetic self in 2016, and now he's in physical and mental decline.

So Harris is well-positioned in terms of debate/speech/presentation, and this might compensate for the obvious racist and misogynist barriers that she faces. Especially if she picks a VP who is more attuned to his audience than Vance.

He's also repellent to the party's biggest donor base: the financial industry.

Totally... all these people asking "yeah but does the VP really get any votes anyway?" and in this case we can say, "it doesn't matter, because he's LOSING donors!"

That’s a net positive in my eyes

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

Tim Alberta is a respected political journalist. I know you’re panicking but don’t blame the messenger.

Who are his sources?

He’s published extensive interviews with Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita recently.

Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita said Trump's running mate J.D. Vance is “going to be everywhere” ahead of the election.

Speaking at an event hosted by Brunswick and Georgetown University, LaCivita said the populist Ohioan is “a person we can plug in really anywhere” and will "attract a wider coalition of voters to Trump than we had before.” He cited Vance’s appeal to young and working-class voters.

“We're actually redefining I think the Republican Party in a lot of different ways,” he said, noting Trump’s appeal to the working class.

“That's clearly an issue that bothers the left but it's one we feel passionate about. And quite frankly it's a place where we should have been for a long time.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/16/rnc-live-updates-coverage/get-ready-for-vance-00168709

How would Vance appeal to young voters? He looks old.

And he has zero rizz. He’s a massive dork. A con man with no huckster charm.

Now compare him to Ivanka... I think we'll see some sea-change coming from the GOP party elites on this—some real juice on swapping Ivanka and Vance...

[Anonymous]

Kamala was a game-changer. The polling flipped and Trump’s incompetent campaign and orbit of idiot grifters are being exposed. Caught with their pants down. It’s not 2016. Trump is old. And his messaging is all globalist open border soft on crime neocon talking points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t JD photographed at rallies holding his kids? Seems very odd.

NP. I hate the man, but this is just good parenting. Politicians that exploit their young children are grotesque.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t JD photographed at rallies holding his kids? Seems very odd.

NP. I hate the man, but this is just good parenting. Politicians that exploit their young children are grotesque.

Give it time—this man will do the grossest things you can imagine to get ahead.

[Anonymous]

When you haven't even been the VP nominee for a week and you're already reduced to trying to tell people that you DIDN'T have sex with a couch cushion... it kinda feels like you're in a death spiral and Trump should ditch you ASAP...



https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1218159.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don Jr and Eric, seeing $$$$$ and opportunity for themselves, pushed Vance on Trump along with Elon who bribed him with $45mm/month. For now, these douchebags got outplayed. I liked it.

that went poof

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don Jr and Eric, seeing $$$$$ and opportunity for themselves, pushed Vance on Trump along with Elon who bribed him with $45mm/month. For now, these douchebags got outplayed. I liked it.

that went poof

When you can't even convince Elon Musk to buy your bullshit you know you're in trouble.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t JD photographed at rallies holding his kids? Seems very odd.

NP. I hate the man, but this is just good parenting. Politicians that exploit their young children are grotesque.

Give it time—this man will do the grossest things you can imagine to get ahead.

Probably. But for now at least, not exploiting his kids on the campaign trail like other politicians do is actually one of the few marks in his favor.

[Anonymous]

Vance better watch out. Trump tried to have his last VP killed when he didn’t like him anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vance better watch out. Trump tried to have his last VP killed when he didn’t like him anymore.

And Pence never had to spend his days denying having sex with furniture!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

Tim Alberta is a respected political journalist. I know you’re panicking but don’t blame the messenger.

Who are his sources?

He’s published extensive interviews with Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita recently.

Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita said Trump's running mate J.D. Vance is “going to be everywhere” ahead of the election.

Speaking at an event hosted by Brunswick and Georgetown University, LaCivita said the populist Ohioan is “a person we can plug in really anywhere” and will "attract a wider coalition of voters to Trump than we had before.” He cited Vance’s appeal to young and working-class voters.

“We're actually redefining I think the Republican Party in a lot of different ways,” he said, noting Trump’s appeal to the working class.

“That's clearly an issue that bothers the left but it's one we feel passionate about. And quite frankly it's a place where we should have been for a long time.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/16/rnc-live-updates-coverage/get-ready-for-vance-00168709

How would Vance appeal to young voters? He looks old.

And how would he appeal to the working class? He went to an Ivy League school and then went into a high-paid white collar job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely. That guy has landed like a ton of bricks. Business community HATES him.

And it's the only way he can do anything to break some of Harris' momentum.

The bad news is it will be very hard to do, he'll have to choose someone softer (which will enrage his base) and it still won't make a dent in K's momentum.

Yeah I don’t see any way this would help him. It makes him look disloyal and indecisive, and if he picks someone besides an another white man his base will just yell “DEI” at him or her.

What does the business community hate? I thought he was in the hands of big tech? All women hating this “cat ladies control us”, “women should stay with abusers for the kids” prolifer… now that I get.