Will Trump drop Vance?

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

No, they can't. Vance's name is already on the paperwork, so to speak. And I agree, Vance is a bad choice. Chameleon, grifter, flip flopper. It's like his whole life is checking boxes so he can play any part on a whim.

Do you have a source for this? I've been trying to find a definite answer that says he can't pick someone else legally.


I mean surely there are exception, right? What happens if the VP pick falls ill or has a sudden personal tragedy that demands all their attention and they need to drop out

Google Senator Eagleton

Thank you. So he could.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

Tim Alberta is a respected political journalist. I know you’re panicking but don’t blame the messenger.

Who are his sources?

He’s published extensive interviews with Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita recently.

Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita said Trump's running mate J.D. Vance is “going to be everywhere” ahead of the election.

Speaking at an event hosted by Brunswick and Georgetown University, LaCivita said the populist Ohioan is “a person we can plug in really anywhere” and will "attract a wider coalition of voters to Trump than we had before.” He cited Vance’s appeal to young and working-class voters.

“We're actually redefining I think the Republican Party in a lot of different ways,” he said, noting Trump’s appeal to the working class.

“That's clearly an issue that bothers the left but it's one we feel passionate about. And quite frankly it's a place where we should have been for a long time.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/16/rnc-live-updates-coverage/get-ready-for-vance-00168709

How would Vance appeal to young voters? He looks old.

And how would he appeal to the working class? He went to an Ivy League school and then went into a high-paid white collar job.

Um…because he grew up poor in a steel town in Ohio, then joined the Marines?

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Wow that Thiel response was… amazing. He really did NOT want to endorse Vance.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations? Can you post links to the conservative articles?

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"President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House. And any reporting to the contrary is nothing but ridiculous fake news from either non-existent sources or individuals who have no idea what's going on," Cheung said.

"Meanwhile, Democrats are in complete disarray after their coup that forcibly removed Biden from the campaign, proving they are the real threats to democracy."

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-cold-feet-jd-vance-1929088

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Trump won’t like this:

J.D. Vance Has a Negative Favorable Rating

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) is making history as the least liked vice presidential nominee since 1980 following his party’s nominating convention, CNN reports.

He’s also the first to have a net negative favorable rating.

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Anonymous wrote:"President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House. And any reporting to the contrary is nothing but ridiculous fake news from either non-existent sources or individuals who have no idea what's going on," Cheung said.

"Meanwhile, Democrats are in complete disarray after their coup that forcibly removed Biden from the campaign, proving they are the real threats to democracy."

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-cold-feet-jd-vance-1929088

A bit difficult to imagine the campaign spokesperson saying, “we made a huge mistake, our VP sucks, and we regret choosing him.”

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Anonymous wrote:Trump won’t like this:

J.D. Vance Has a Negative Favorable Rating

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) is making history as the least liked vice presidential nominee since 1980 following his party’s nominating convention, CNN reports.

He’s also the first to have a net negative favorable rating.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/kamala-harris/

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Anonymous wrote:"President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House. And any reporting to the contrary is nothing but ridiculous fake news from either non-existent sources or individuals who have no idea what's going on," Cheung said.

"Meanwhile, Democrats are in complete disarray after their coup that forcibly removed Biden from the campaign, proving they are the real threats to democracy."

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-cold-feet-jd-vance-1929088

A bit difficult to imagine the campaign spokesperson saying, “we made a huge mistake, our VP sucks, and we regret choosing him.”

What does this say about Trump's judgment, MAGAs? He makes terrible choices -- just look at how stupid this choice was and now, he immediately regrets it.

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

No, they can't. Vance's name is already on the paperwork, so to speak. And I agree, Vance is a bad choice. Chameleon, grifter, flip flopper. It's like his whole life is checking boxes so he can play any part on a whim.

Do you have a source for this? I've been trying to find a definite answer that says he can't pick someone else legally.


I mean surely there are exception, right? What happens if the VP pick falls ill or has a sudden personal tragedy that demands all their attention and they need to drop out

Google Senator Eagleton

Thank you. So he could.

Yes, Thomas Eagleton was dropped and replaced as VP *after* the Democratic National Convention in 1972. So there is some history for it. However, it was very costly for George McGovern. Furthermore, I believe Democrats could sue to force Vance to stay on the ballot. This may or may not be successful, but it would be a huge distraction for Republicans. So I would be shocked if Trump actually did it. But you never know I guess.

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Wonder if Trump is regretting his choice now

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if Trump is regretting his choice now

Musk Confirms ‘Lower Level’ Donations to Pro-Trump Super PAC

Contributions are ‘much lower level’ than $45 million a month
America PAC focuses on get-out-the-vote efforts in November

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-24/elon-musk-confirms-donations-to-pro-trump-super-pac?embedded-checkout=true

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump won’t like this:

J.D. Vance Has a Negative Favorable Rating

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) is making history as the least liked vice presidential nominee since 1980 following his party’s nominating convention, CNN reports.

He’s also the first to have a net negative favorable rating.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/kamala-harris/

Citing the Peter Thiel funded Project 538 is a flex, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

No, they can't. Vance's name is already on the paperwork, so to speak. And I agree, Vance is a bad choice. Chameleon, grifter, flip flopper. It's like his whole life is checking boxes so he can play any part on a whim.

Do you have a source for this? I've been trying to find a definite answer that says he can't pick someone else legally.


I mean surely there are exception, right? What happens if the VP pick falls ill or has a sudden personal tragedy that demands all their attention and they need to drop out

Google Senator Eagleton

Thank you. So he could.

Yes, Thomas Eagleton was dropped and replaced as VP *after* the Democratic National Convention in 1972. So there is some history for it. However, it was very costly for George McGovern. Furthermore, I believe Democrats could sue to force Vance to stay on the ballot. This may or may not be successful, but it would be a huge distraction for Republicans. So I would be shocked if Trump actually did it. But you never know I guess.

Given how much the GOP legal eagles were claiming this would be a valid case against the Dems just a few days ago (and before the Dems had a convention) it seems like a Dem case AFTER the GOP convention would be even stronger.