Will Trump drop Vance?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Definitely. That guy has landed like a ton of bricks. Business community HATES him.

And it's the only way he can do anything to break some of Harris' momentum.

The bad news is it will be very hard to do, he'll have to choose someone softer (which will enrage his base) and it still won't make a dent in K's momentum.

Yeah I don’t see any way this would help him. It makes him look disloyal and indecisive, and if he picks someone besides an another white man his base will just yell “DEI” at him or her.

Bwah ha ha ha! Really this is what would make Trump LOOK disloyal? He urged his supporters to hang his last VP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

just google it or read the threads here... people are even talking about Ivanka for goddsake

Vance scares the HELL out of Wall Street.

It will be interesting. Clearly, he will play favorites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can Trump drop both Trump and Vance?

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing, Trump is only capable of making huge mistakes. His main criteria for picking Vance was that he had chemistry with him, felt idolized by him, and therefore liked him. Most normal people would fail the Trump chemistry test.

Trump is the problem. Can his party drop him?

+1

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

just google it or read the threads here... people are even talking about Ivanka for goddsake

Vance scares the HELL out of Wall Street.

No he doesn’t. They want him to win. Lower taxes and no regulations over crypto. He is Peter Thiel’s best little buddy!

You are confusing tech with Wall Street.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can Trump drop both Trump and Vance?

LOL

I LOL’d too. Because… Schroedenger’s POTUS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

just google it or read the threads here... people are even talking about Ivanka for goddsake

Vance scares the HELL out of Wall Street.

No he doesn’t. They want him to win. Lower taxes and no regulations over crypto. He is Peter Thiel’s best little buddy!

You are confusing tech with Wall Street.

Wall St wants lower taxes. Look who was floated for Treasury Sec (Jamie Dimon)
Tech wants no regulation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Definitely. That guy has landed like a ton of bricks. Business community HATES him.

And it's the only way he can do anything to break some of Harris' momentum.

The bad news is it will be very hard to do, he'll have to choose someone softer (which will enrage his base) and it still won't make a dent in K's momentum.

Peter Thiel is a major Vance backer. Thiel or his funds have a finger in every major Silicon Valley company and many outside of it. Thiel is (reprehensible and) hugely influential.


So no, the business community does not hate Vance.


Meanwhile, it’s unlikely that either nominee on the ticket can be changed at this stage. Even if he drops out or dies, his name is on the ticket. They’re locked in. If you think he is disliked, that should be good news.


As for Harris momentum, we have yet to see; just too early to tell. She had an early spike of interest and enthusiasm but so would almost any Biden replacement. “Momentum” is probably overstating the case at only two days into her candidacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing, Trump is only capable of making huge mistakes. His main criteria for picking Vance was that he had chemistry with him, felt idolized by him, and therefore liked him. Most normal people would fail the Trump chemistry test.

Trump is the problem. Can his party drop him?

Also the oldest failson liked him the best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing, Trump is only capable of making huge mistakes. His main criteria for picking Vance was that he had chemistry with him, felt idolized by him, and therefore liked him. Most normal people would fail the Trump chemistry test.

Trump is the problem. Can his party drop him?

Also the oldest failson liked him the best.

I’m not surprised, he’s basically a 4th Trump child (I’m not counting Barron and Tiffany)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

How can he? Vance will not go quietly and he is a snake that would turn on Trump saying his original feelings about trump were correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He can't at this point. The delegates have voted and there is no mechanism to change it.

Well on the other hand, it is the party of authoritarians, so I guess Trump will do whatever he wants, though dumping Trump puts Ohio and Appalachia in play.

What if Vance voluntarily drops out for personal reasons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been a bunch of articles including conservative leaning ones that Vance was a huge mistake. Can the Republicans drop him even though they have finished the convention and formal nomination.

Citations?

“Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

And this is the Atlantic article referenced
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-campaign-biden-dropping-out/679183/

new republic is not a credible source. The Atlantic link has a paywall.

Besides, nothing in the new republic article mentions anything you are claiming. You are spreading disinformation.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Who? Names? Who are the Trump “allies” being used as sources? First the author claims he heard from the trump campaign, then Trump allies. But all sources are completely anonymous.

There may be more information behind the paywall, but new republic has nothing so meh, neither does The Atlantic. Nice try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Definitely. That guy has landed like a ton of bricks. Business community HATES him.

And it's the only way he can do anything to break some of Harris' momentum.

The bad news is it will be very hard to do, he'll have to choose someone softer (which will enrage his base) and it still won't make a dent in K's momentum.

Peter Thiel is a major Vance backer. Thiel or his funds have a finger in every major Silicon Valley company and many outside of it. Thiel is (reprehensible and) hugely influential.


So no, the business community does not hate Vance.


Meanwhile, it’s unlikely that either nominee on the ticket can be changed at this stage. Even if he drops out or dies, his name is on the ticket. They’re locked in. If you think he is disliked, that should be good news.


As for Harris momentum, we have yet to see; just too early to tell. She had an early spike of interest and enthusiasm but so would almost any Biden replacement. “Momentum” is probably overstating the case at only two days into her candidacy.

I think momentum is an understatement. Right now the enthusiasm is sucking up all the air on media platforms. Having said that, there is a lot of daylight between now and November for anyone in this election dramedy to make a major gaff (candidates, current president or close associates) or have a major health event (eg, heart attack in former or current president - unlikely for Harris). In either event things will get reshuffled again.