House of the Dragon - Game of Thrones spinoff (SPOILERS)

[Anonymous]

How tragic, both paramours might be dead.

[Anonymous]

Overall, I’m really liking the show, but a few things are bugging me:

I don’t think they gave enough time to develop Ser Criston’s guilt/resentment/anger/lust. That would have played out better over at least a few episodes. And I know what he did was shocking, but presumably all these knights and lords are used to violence, so I don’t get how he was just able to saunter out of the hall without being detained.

A minor thing, but when they speak Valyrian, the subtitles are pretty small and in yellow rather than the usual white; Even with a pretty big tv, I had to rewind to get it all.

The main thing for me: Sometimes the dialogue is stilted, especially when they’re providing information more for the audience than they would naturally speak to each other. Just one example— last episode when the small council was meeting, they were saying Viserys caused trouble by not marrying The Sea Snake’s daughter Laena, and then a few minutes later said that the Sea Snake was plotting to marry “his daughter Laena” to another lord. They all know who Laena is. They don’t need to define the relationship as the Sea Snake’s daughter again; that was just for us, because they’ve introduced a lot of characters quickly. It would be like me telling my kids “We are going over to visit your cousins Larlo and Larla; they are the children of my brother Big Larlo” —when the kids have known each other since birth.

I just think the original GOT took its time to develop characters—this feels a lot more rushed, but maybe it just needs time to establish things.

[Anonymous]

Is this only going to be one stand alone season?

It looks like they are switching out the actress that plays Rhaenyra starting next week. So there will be a sizable time jump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When boss Harvey Weinstein asked for it in exchange for keeping your lead role, it wasn’t rape, right?

You seem super dense. If Weinstein asked for it in exchange for a role, then that’s not in and of itself rape. If he held her down, if he penetrated her without her consent, if she said no and he didn’t not stop, then we are at rape. But if Weinstein says to Jennifer Lawrence have sex with me and I will put you in my movie and she says ok and they do it, that’s not rape.

Does it create a hostile work environment or sexual harassment, possibly. But not rape. Perhaps law a criminal law class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did Criston Cole snap like that? He would have known Rhaenyra is a princess and he’s just a knight, so she’s not going to run away with him. And why is Alicent so bothered by Rhaenyra not telling her about her sleeping with Criston? She used to be Rhaenyra’s friend and sneakily married her father, the king?!

Because her dad lost his position after Rhaenyra denied it, making him look like a liar to get Aegon into power.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this only going to be one stand alone season?

It looks like they are switching out the actress that plays Rhaenyra starting next week. So there will be a sizable time jump.

Yes and the king is still alive, and Allicent is a new actress too. It could be a flash forward for one episode. I am excited by the jumps but also wondering if it's a limited series, like they said it will be 4 seasons and these are the years it will take place. These are big jumps.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Criston Cole snap like that? He would have known Rhaenyra is a princess and he’s just a knight, so she’s not going to run away with him. And why is Alicent so bothered by Rhaenyra not telling her about her sleeping with Criston? She used to be Rhaenyra’s friend and sneakily married her father, the king?!

Because her dad lost his position after Rhaenyra denied it, making him look like a liar to get Aegon into power.

NP. I too don't understand why Allicent is so mad at Rhaenyra, and your explanation doesn't really make sense, because she DIDN'T have sex with Daemon, so Rhaenyra never lied to Allicent. She just didn't tell her "but oh yeah I banged my protector" -- understandable since that could get him killed.

In the interviews with the show creators after the episode, they did confirm that Allicent was simply angry that Rhaenyra hadn't told her the whole WHOLE truth, but that seems silly to me in context.

[Anonymous]

https://fictionhorizon.com/why-did-ser-criston-cole-want-to-commit-suicide/

Agree, well done episode.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Criston Cole snap like that? He would have known Rhaenyra is a princess and he’s just a knight, so she’s not going to run away with him. And why is Alicent so bothered by Rhaenyra not telling her about her sleeping with Criston? She used to be Rhaenyra’s friend and sneakily married her father, the king?!

Because her dad lost his position after Rhaenyra denied it, making him look like a liar to get Aegon into power.

NP. I too don't understand why Allicent is so mad at Rhaenyra, and your explanation doesn't really make sense, because she DIDN'T have sex with Daemon, so Rhaenyra never lied to Allicent. She just didn't tell her "but oh yeah I banged my protector" -- understandable since that could get him killed.

In the interviews with the show creators after the episode, they did confirm that Allicent was simply angry that Rhaenyra hadn't told her the whole WHOLE truth, but that seems silly to me in context.

R lied when she said her uncle never touched her. Flat out lie. On her mothers grave nonetheless.

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Anonymous wrote:So tonight’s episode was nuts!! Did NOT envision Ser Criston as a rage killer! Daemon shouldn’t have surprised me but yet I still didn’t want him to kill the wife either. Jesus this one was bloody.

First thought he knew the Daemon trust rumors and saw them discussing a marriage for themselves and rushed in to stop that.

As the room cleared it was the gay lover getting punched, after boldly accusing Criston of being the princess’ whore lover just based on him looking around the room.

And wtf did Criston confess, did he not hear the brothel rumors?

And are we supposed to believe they kept on sleeping together after that first time hence the Run Away With Me pitch made more sense? He certainly put it on the line. And she constantly talked about not getting married and not doing roles.

Good point. Daemon was leading the princess farther from head table And they immediately started talking about marrying each other. The uncle grabbed her by the face. Next thing is we hear clobbering on the dance floor.

And who knows what Joffrey last chided after calling out Cole’s sins.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did Criston Cole snap like that? He would have known Rhaenyra is a princess and he’s just a knight, so she’s not going to run away with him. And why is Alicent so bothered by Rhaenyra not telling her about her sleeping with Criston? She used to be Rhaenyra’s friend and sneakily married her father, the king?!

Because her dad lost his position after Rhaenyra denied it, making him look like a liar to get Aegon into power.

NP. I too don't understand why Allicent is so mad at Rhaenyra, and your explanation doesn't really make sense, because she DIDN'T have sex with Daemon, so Rhaenyra never lied to Allicent. She just didn't tell her "but oh yeah I banged my protector" -- understandable since that could get him killed.

In the interviews with the show creators after the episode, they did confirm that Allicent was simply angry that Rhaenyra hadn't told her the whole WHOLE truth, but that seems silly to me in context.

I don't understand how this isn't about her dad. He told the king the truth, Rhaenyra lied and denied the truth, and because the king believed her, she told Otto to leave, assuming he was a liar. Alicent found out that R was lying via Sir Criston's confession.

[Anonymous]

Lies of omission are lies.

So far the only person telling the truth is Criston Cole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rhaenyra's teeth/ jaws freak me out. I can't wait till they age her up and anew acts plays her

Small eyes and always open mouth doesn’t help either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did Criston Cole snap like that? He would have known Rhaenyra is a princess and he’s just a knight, so she’s not going to run away with him. And why is Alicent so bothered by Rhaenyra not telling her about her sleeping with Criston? She used to be Rhaenyra’s friend and sneakily married her father, the king?!

Because her dad lost his position after Rhaenyra denied it, making him look like a liar to get Aegon into power.

NP. I too don't understand why Allicent is so mad at Rhaenyra, and your explanation doesn't really make sense, because she DIDN'T have sex with Daemon, so Rhaenyra never lied to Allicent. She just didn't tell her "but oh yeah I banged my protector" -- understandable since that could get him killed.

In the interviews with the show creators after the episode, they did confirm that Allicent was simply angry that Rhaenyra hadn't told her the whole WHOLE truth, but that seems silly to me in context.

I don't understand how this isn't about her dad. He told the king the truth, Rhaenyra lied and denied the truth, and because the king believed her, she told Otto to leave, assuming he was a liar. Alicent found out that R was lying via Sir Criston's confession.

Remind me, how? Cristin didn't say anything about Daemon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did Criston Cole snap like that? He would have known Rhaenyra is a princess and he’s just a knight, so she’s not going to run away with him. And why is Alicent so bothered by Rhaenyra not telling her about her sleeping with Criston? She used to be Rhaenyra’s friend and sneakily married her father, the king?!

Because her dad lost his position after Rhaenyra denied it, making him look like a liar to get Aegon into power.

NP. I too don't understand why Allicent is so mad at Rhaenyra, and your explanation doesn't really make sense, because she DIDN'T have sex with Daemon, so Rhaenyra never lied to Allicent. She just didn't tell her "but oh yeah I banged my protector" -- understandable since that could get him killed.

In the interviews with the show creators after the episode, they did confirm that Allicent was simply angry that Rhaenyra hadn't told her the whole WHOLE truth, but that seems silly to me in context.

I don't understand how this isn't about her dad. He told the king the truth, Rhaenyra lied and denied the truth, and because the king believed her, she told Otto to leave, assuming he was a liar. Alicent found out that R was lying via Sir Criston's confession.

Remind me, how? Cristin didn't say anything about Daemon.

I think it’s just that her father was barking up the right tree, and he was dismissed as a liar.