Ukraine war - which side is winning?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

Putin has been very open about his goals, and early on. You may disagree with them but they are well known. He does not want NATO to expand eastward. He will not tolerate NATO presence/membership/flirtation specifically in Ukraine and Georgia. These were all known facts. The entire problem can be condensed into this sentence: the West does not think Russia ought to have a sphere of influence, and Putin disagrees. That's it.

Quite interestingly, he does not feel the same about the Baltic republics. And this checks out because during the entire time of the USSR they were never really the part of the same space, not culturally. Their otherness was a given so their departure was expected and accepted.

They've said Lithuania is not a country. It's also quite clear that their issue with Ukraine is not NATO but the mere fact of their existence.

Well.....Lithuania got a third of its land mass, including the capital city, via the USSR largess who took it from Poland and gave it to Lithuania. It would have been a much smaller country if it never joined the USSR. Ukraine too - USSR gave the a chunk of Poland, a chunk of Hungary and a chunk of Romania.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

Putin has been very open about his goals, and early on. You may disagree with them but they are well known. He does not want NATO to expand eastward. He will not tolerate NATO presence/membership/flirtation specifically in Ukraine and Georgia. These were all known facts. The entire problem can be condensed into this sentence: the West does not think Russia ought to have a sphere of influence, and Putin disagrees. That's it.

Quite interestingly, he does not feel the same about the Baltic republics. And this checks out because during the entire time of the USSR they were never really the part of the same space, not culturally. Their otherness was a given so their departure was expected and accepted.

They've said Lithuania is not a country. It's also quite clear that their issue with Ukraine is not NATO but the mere fact of their existence.

No, Putin would have been quite fine with friendly Ukraine, and it could have been done very easily. He would have been fine with their economic integration with the EU, trade, travel, etc. It is not true that he is somehow threatened by "democratic Ukraine" - especially if you face the reality that Ukraine's political climate prior to war has been every bit as corrupt and oligarch-heavy. There is no earthly reason why these two countries could not coexist. And they will because proximity will not go anywhere.

[Anonymous]

About 20% of Ukraine is controlled by Russia, with little in the way of counterattacks that roll that back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

One of the few who gets it here

[Anonymous]

Russia’s winning. They’ve been winning the whole time.

Sanctions are a joke, and frankly coalescing a huge new axis of evil ally group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those sanctions are working so well......

The sanctions were a huge mistake. It’s accelerated the dollar losing reserve status as all other countries don’t want the USA to do it to them and are joining together.

Trump understands the big picture much better than the swamp. Our leaders are stupid.

Plus the misguided Cold War era sanctions drove a tighter bond between Russia, China and India and S America plus egregiously punished USA multinationals who operated and sold to Russia. Now they’re out 10% of their revenue and sold their assets there at a loss or write off.

Worst is “disallowing” countries to buy Russia oil or nat gas and no plan for where to buy it since everywhere at capacity, thus price is up and up and up.

Well done Biden. Should have given the Poles the old f-16 and bombed the Russian convoys when they were entering Ukraine, in February. Done and done. Air Force advised that, but Biden appointees and Biden said No. and here we are, grinding away money and lives, letting PUtin do whatever he wants.

I said it early on in this war but the problem here partially is the US and western Europe thinking they are what they were 40 years ago. The world has changed. They don’t have nearly the power they once did. They’re nearly all states in decline.

Especially after divisive Obama who neutered the sect of state role, never investigated Iran nukes, let N Korea advance, Russia invade Crimea, did an executive order to attack Libya to help EU oil situation- which failed, let China steal iP and advance, Benghazi debacle & coverup, and took 9 months and a huge confrontation to finall approve the Biden attack before it would never work.

Worst foreign policy president in centuries.

And so is Biden.

Says a former neocon

What’s a neocon and why would listing a bunch of failed foreign policy stuff Obama/Biden did, make someone a neocon. What does that make Obama and Biden then, since they did those things?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those sanctions are working so well......

The sanctions were a huge mistake. It’s accelerated the dollar losing reserve status as all other countries don’t want the USA to do it to them and are joining together.

Trump understands the big picture much better than the swamp. Our leaders are stupid.

Plus the misguided Cold War era sanctions drove a tighter bond between Russia, China and India and S America plus egregiously punished USA multinationals who operated and sold to Russia. Now they’re out 10% of their revenue and sold their assets there at a loss or write off.

Worst is “disallowing” countries to buy Russia oil or nat gas and no plan for where to buy it since everywhere at capacity, thus price is up and up and up.

Well done Biden. Should have given the Poles the old f-16 and bombed the Russian convoys when they were entering Ukraine, in February. Done and done. Air Force advised that, but Biden appointees and Biden said No. and here we are, grinding away money and lives, letting PUtin do whatever he wants.

I said it early on in this war but the problem here partially is the US and western Europe thinking they are what they were 40 years ago. The world has changed. They don’t have nearly the power they once did. They’re nearly all states in decline.

Especially after divisive Obama who neutered the sect of state role, never investigated Iran nukes, let N Korea advance, Russia invade Crimea, did an executive order to attack Libya to help EU oil situation- which failed, let China steal iP and advance, Benghazi debacle & coverup, and took 9 months and a huge confrontation to finall approve the Biden attack before it would never work.

Worst foreign policy president in centuries.

And so is Biden.

Says a former neocon

What’s a neocon and why would listing a bunch of failed foreign policy stuff Obama/Biden did, make someone a neocon. What does that make Obama and Biden then, since they did those things?

What’s a neocon? Wow. Show yourself out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

Putin has been very open about his goals, and early on. You may disagree with them but they are well known. He does not want NATO to expand eastward. He will not tolerate NATO presence/membership/flirtation specifically in Ukraine and Georgia. These were all known facts. The entire problem can be condensed into this sentence: the West does not think Russia ought to have a sphere of influence, and Putin disagrees. That's it.

Quite interestingly, he does not feel the same about the Baltic republics. And this checks out because during the entire time of the USSR they were never really the part of the same space, not culturally. Their otherness was a given so their departure was expected and accepted.

Lithuania has a much greater claim of historical nationhood than does Ukraine, the etymology of which is generally agreed to be borderland. Maybe when the Soviet Union dissolved the Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine should have adopted something like the “Republic of Galicia, Ruthenia, and Volhynia”. That way the new country is linked to recognized historical states. However these were also never independent countries and were subjects at various times to Hungarians, Austrians, Poles, Lithuanians, Tartar Khans, Turks, Mongols, and of course Russians (probably others too). Belarus has a similar conundrum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

One of the few who gets it here

Losing generals, tanks, the flagship, the other flagship, those paratroopers, countless troops, irradiating soldies at Chernobyl, that's just playing games.

Sure.

Russia is destroying Ukraine. Russia is destabilizing Russia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

This.

People don’t understand that Ukraine is being saved due to being white Slavs.

Russia could literally erase 40 million people in a month if they wanted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

This.

People don’t understand that Ukraine is being saved due to being white Slavs.

Russia could literally erase 40 million people in a month if they wanted.

Hon, Russia doesn't want the Ukrainians, they want to round them up, ship them "east", and replace them all with Russians.

Russia has exposed the weakness of their vaunted army. They can't erase anything. At all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

This.

People don’t understand that Ukraine is being saved due to being white Slavs.

Russia could literally erase 40 million people in a month if they wanted.

Hon, Russia doesn't want the Ukrainians, they want to round them up, ship them "east", and replace them all with Russians.

Russia has exposed the weakness of their vaunted army. They can't erase anything. At all.

Russia has unlimited artillery and tac nukes. They could glass the country if they wanted.

Russians have a stomach far stronger than the west. In 4 years time, full trade relations will be reopened with Russia, Ukraine will be landlocked, and Russia will have the entire northern coast of the Black Sea

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

This.

People don’t understand that Ukraine is being saved due to being white Slavs.

Russia could literally erase 40 million people in a month if they wanted.

Hon, Russia doesn't want the Ukrainians, they want to round them up, ship them "east", and replace them all with Russians.

Russia has exposed the weakness of their vaunted army. They can't erase anything. At all.

LOL, their army is weak, they can't erase anything, and THAT"s why Ukraine needs like a hundred billion million kazillion dollars and untold ammo to fight them. Uh-huh.

One of these things is not like the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

This.

People don’t understand that Ukraine is being saved due to being white Slavs.

Russia could literally erase 40 million people in a month if they wanted.

Russia doesnt view their former territories through the lens of a white American progressive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

One of the few who gets it here

Losing generals, tanks, the flagship, the other flagship, those paratroopers, countless troops, irradiating soldies at Chernobyl, that's just playing games.

Sure.

Russia is destroying Ukraine. Russia is destabilizing Russia.

Typical answer from someone who is truly clueless.
Losing generals, tanks, ships etc. is part of wars, nothing new there.
They are toying with Ukraine. They could have bombed Kiev into oblivion if they wanted to. They are destabilizing the region and destroying Ukraine piece by piece until they get what they want.
Ukraine will never be a member of Nato