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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to.  they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning[/quote]

Putin has been very open about his goals, and early on.  You may disagree with them but they are well known.  He does not want NATO to expand eastward.  He will not tolerate NATO presence/membership/flirtation specifically in Ukraine and Georgia.  These were all known facts.  The entire problem can be condensed into this sentence: the West does not think Russia ought to have a sphere of influence, and Putin disagrees.  That's it.

Quite interestingly, he does not feel the same about the Baltic republics.  And this checks out because during the entire time of the USSR they were never really the part of the same space, not culturally.   Their otherness was a given so their departure was expected and accepted. [/quote]

They've said Lithuania is not a country.  It's also quite clear that their issue with Ukraine is not NATO but the mere fact of their existence.  [/quote]

No, Putin would have been quite fine with friendly Ukraine, and it could have been done very easily.   He would have been fine with their economic integration with the EU, trade, travel, etc.  It is not true that he is somehow threatened by "democratic Ukraine" - especially if you face the reality that Ukraine's political climate prior to war has been every bit as corrupt and oligarch-heavy. There is no earthly reason why these two countries could not coexist.    And they will because proximity will not go anywhere. [/quote]

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