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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to.  they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning[/quote]

Putin has been very open about his goals, and early on.  You may disagree with them but they are well known.  He does not want NATO to expand eastward.  He will not tolerate NATO presence/membership/flirtation specifically in Ukraine and Georgia.  These were all known facts.  The entire problem can be condensed into this sentence: the West does not think Russia ought to have a sphere of influence, and Putin disagrees.  That's it.

Quite interestingly, he does not feel the same about the Baltic republics.  And this checks out because during the entire time of the USSR they were never really the part of the same space, not culturally.   Their otherness was a given so their departure was expected and accepted. [/quote]
Lithuania has a much greater claim of historical nationhood than does Ukraine, the etymology of which is generally agreed to be borderland.  Maybe when the Soviet Union dissolved the Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine should have adopted something like the “Republic of Galicia, Ruthenia, and Volhynia”.  That way the new country is linked to recognized historical states.  However these were also never independent countries and were subjects at various times to Hungarians, Austrians, Poles, Lithuanians, Tartar Khans, Turks, Mongols, and of course Russians (probably others too).  Belarus has a similar conundrum.[/quote]

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