Ukraine war - which side is winning?

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Anonymous wrote:So glad we sent all that money over there to Ukraine and for what? Put that money into our cities that need it most. Start cleaning our own sht up.

That money is bleeding and hurting Russia.
Money week spent.

Meaning you don't really care about helping Ukraine?

Bleeding Russia helps Ukraine.

It didn't work out this way so far. Let's put it this way, Ukraine can be hurt very badly while Russia is bleeding out.

Once the settlement is negotiated, you should look at what was proposed in Istanbul two months ago (approx), see if there were any major differences, and then ask yourself - how many people had to die and how much destruction had to happen since Istanbul for the parties to agree to essentially the same thing?

Ukraine has exposed Russia for the poor quality thugs they are....good to know.

If that was true, no billion-dollar aid packages would have been needed to fight with them. It's quite ironic to see the media simultaneously claim that a) the Russian army is low quality, under-equipped, under-resources, dumb and poor, paper tiger, and b) Ukraine urgently needs many billion dollars worth of weapons to fight them.

Most Americans are dumb and believe tons of nonsense mass media spews out.

Like Obama Admin didn’t wiretap an opposition campaign
Hillary Didn’t smash her cell phones
Russian Collusion is real
Hunters laptop is Russian disinformation
Electing Biden won’t cause 5/6/7 dollar gas
The Steele Dossier is reliable
Electing Biden won’t lead into a recession / depression
Epstein killed himself
The election was not effected by fraud.

Wait a minute …. Trump broke all the actually correct journalism on all these blockbusters!! On top of Being his HS baseball captain, graduating Wharton ,rebuilding Manhattan, becoming a billionaire, only mating with world class beauties, being a best selling author in his 30s, being a scratch golfer, owning iconic properties worldwide, being a decade long tv star, raising health/happy/Ivy educated children, winning President on his first try on a minuscule budget, completing the National Post Office hotel ahead of schedule and under budget, keeping world peace with no new wars, record high stock market, developing the Covid Vaccine, low inflation, full shelves, energy independence, handed Biden a expanding economy, hit a hole in one and 40 ft putt last month…


…. Now he’s the greatest journalist of the 21st century breaking all the blockbuster stories ahead of all other journalists !!


America has a new Walter Cronkite

I had to double check which thread I'm looking at. You're deranged to be posting this here.

[Anonymous]

Those sanctions are working so well......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those sanctions are working so well......

The sanctions were a huge mistake. It’s accelerated the dollar losing reserve status as all other countries don’t want the USA to do it to them and are joining together.

Trump understands the big picture much better than the swamp. Our leaders are stupid.

[Anonymous]

Turns out oil and grain are more valuable than the dollar. Who knew? It’s refreshingly old fashioned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So glad we sent all that money over there to Ukraine and for what? Put that money into our cities that need it most. Start cleaning our own sht up.

That money is bleeding and hurting Russia.
Money week spent.

Meaning you don't really care about helping Ukraine?

Bleeding Russia helps Ukraine.

It didn't work out this way so far. Let's put it this way, Ukraine can be hurt very badly while Russia is bleeding out.

Once the settlement is negotiated, you should look at what was proposed in Istanbul two months ago (approx), see if there were any major differences, and then ask yourself - how many people had to die and how much destruction had to happen since Istanbul for the parties to agree to essentially the same thing?

Ukraine has exposed Russia for the poor quality thugs they are....good to know.

If that was true, no billion-dollar aid packages would have been needed to fight with them. It's quite ironic to see the media simultaneously claim that a) the Russian army is low quality, under-equipped, under-resources, dumb and poor, paper tiger, and b) Ukraine urgently needs many billion dollars worth of weapons to fight them.

Most Americans are dumb and believe tons of nonsense mass media spews out.

Like Obama Admin didn’t wiretap an opposition campaign
Hillary Didn’t smash her cell phones
Russian Collusion is real
Hunters laptop is Russian disinformation
Electing Biden won’t cause 5/6/7 dollar gas
The Steele Dossier is reliable
Electing Biden won’t lead into a recession / depression
Epstein killed himself
The election was not effected by fraud.

Wait a minute …. Trump broke all the actually correct journalism on all these blockbusters!! On top of Being his HS baseball captain, graduating Wharton ,rebuilding Manhattan, becoming a billionaire, only mating with world class beauties, being a best selling author in his 30s, being a scratch golfer, owning iconic properties worldwide, being a decade long tv star, raising health/happy/Ivy educated children, winning President on his first try on a minuscule budget, completing the National Post Office hotel ahead of schedule and under budget, keeping world peace with no new wars, record high stock market, developing the Covid Vaccine, low inflation, full shelves, energy independence, handed Biden a expanding economy, hit a hole in one and 40 ft putt last month…


…. Now he’s the greatest journalist of the 21st century breaking all the blockbuster stories ahead of all other journalists !!


America has a new Walter Cronkite

Holy moly.

And everything you wrote is true!

The cognitive dissonance is too much, time to personally attack you. You lying a-h0le.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those sanctions are working so well......

The sanctions were a huge mistake. It’s accelerated the dollar losing reserve status as all other countries don’t want the USA to do it to them and are joining together.

Trump understands the big picture much better than the swamp. Our leaders are stupid.

Plus the misguided Cold War era sanctions drove a tighter bond between Russia, China and India and S America plus egregiously punished USA multinationals who operated and sold to Russia. Now they’re out 10% of their revenue and sold their assets there at a loss or write off.

Worst is “disallowing” countries to buy Russia oil or nat gas and no plan for where to buy it since everywhere at capacity, thus price is up and up and up.

Well done Biden. Should have given the Poles the old f-16 and bombed the Russian convoys when they were entering Ukraine, in February. Done and done. Air Force advised that, but Biden appointees and Biden said No. and here we are, grinding away money and lives, letting PUtin do whatever he wants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those sanctions are working so well......

The sanctions were a huge mistake. It’s accelerated the dollar losing reserve status as all other countries don’t want the USA to do it to them and are joining together.

Trump understands the big picture much better than the swamp. Our leaders are stupid.

Plus the misguided Cold War era sanctions drove a tighter bond between Russia, China and India and S America plus egregiously punished USA multinationals who operated and sold to Russia. Now they’re out 10% of their revenue and sold their assets there at a loss or write off.

Worst is “disallowing” countries to buy Russia oil or nat gas and no plan for where to buy it since everywhere at capacity, thus price is up and up and up.

Well done Biden. Should have given the Poles the old f-16 and bombed the Russian convoys when they were entering Ukraine, in February. Done and done. Air Force advised that, but Biden appointees and Biden said No. and here we are, grinding away money and lives, letting PUtin do whatever he wants.

I said it early on in this war but the problem here partially is the US and western Europe thinking they are what they were 40 years ago. The world has changed. They don’t have nearly the power they once did. They’re nearly all states in decline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those sanctions are working so well......

The sanctions were a huge mistake. It’s accelerated the dollar losing reserve status as all other countries don’t want the USA to do it to them and are joining together.

Trump understands the big picture much better than the swamp. Our leaders are stupid.

Plus the misguided Cold War era sanctions drove a tighter bond between Russia, China and India and S America plus egregiously punished USA multinationals who operated and sold to Russia. Now they’re out 10% of their revenue and sold their assets there at a loss or write off.

Worst is “disallowing” countries to buy Russia oil or nat gas and no plan for where to buy it since everywhere at capacity, thus price is up and up and up.

Well done Biden. Should have given the Poles the old f-16 and bombed the Russian convoys when they were entering Ukraine, in February. Done and done. Air Force advised that, but Biden appointees and Biden said No. and here we are, grinding away money and lives, letting PUtin do whatever he wants.

I said it early on in this war but the problem here partially is the US and western Europe thinking they are what they were 40 years ago. The world has changed. They don’t have nearly the power they once did. They’re nearly all states in decline.

It seems to me that Russia is in decline based on their shitty war efforts.

[Anonymous]

Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those sanctions are working so well......

The sanctions were a huge mistake. It’s accelerated the dollar losing reserve status as all other countries don’t want the USA to do it to them and are joining together.

Trump understands the big picture much better than the swamp. Our leaders are stupid.

Plus the misguided Cold War era sanctions drove a tighter bond between Russia, China and India and S America plus egregiously punished USA multinationals who operated and sold to Russia. Now they’re out 10% of their revenue and sold their assets there at a loss or write off.

Worst is “disallowing” countries to buy Russia oil or nat gas and no plan for where to buy it since everywhere at capacity, thus price is up and up and up.

Well done Biden. Should have given the Poles the old f-16 and bombed the Russian convoys when they were entering Ukraine, in February. Done and done. Air Force advised that, but Biden appointees and Biden said No. and here we are, grinding away money and lives, letting PUtin do whatever he wants.

I said it early on in this war but the problem here partially is the US and western Europe thinking they are what they were 40 years ago. The world has changed. They don’t have nearly the power they once did. They’re nearly all states in decline.

Especially after divisive Obama who neutered the sect of state role, never investigated Iran nukes, let N Korea advance, Russia invade Crimea, did an executive order to attack Libya to help EU oil situation- which failed, let China steal iP and advance, Benghazi debacle & coverup, and took 9 months and a huge confrontation to finall approve the Biden attack before it would never work.

Worst foreign policy president in centuries.

And so is Biden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

+1 this is obvious to everyone for several months now. PUtin knows Biden will do very little that makes an impact. Biden can take some refugees and pay to rebuild west Ukraine or something. He’s a pushover and so is his cabinet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those sanctions are working so well......

The sanctions were a huge mistake. It’s accelerated the dollar losing reserve status as all other countries don’t want the USA to do it to them and are joining together.

Trump understands the big picture much better than the swamp. Our leaders are stupid.

Plus the misguided Cold War era sanctions drove a tighter bond between Russia, China and India and S America plus egregiously punished USA multinationals who operated and sold to Russia. Now they’re out 10% of their revenue and sold their assets there at a loss or write off.

Worst is “disallowing” countries to buy Russia oil or nat gas and no plan for where to buy it since everywhere at capacity, thus price is up and up and up.

Well done Biden. Should have given the Poles the old f-16 and bombed the Russian convoys when they were entering Ukraine, in February. Done and done. Air Force advised that, but Biden appointees and Biden said No. and here we are, grinding away money and lives, letting PUtin do whatever he wants.

I said it early on in this war but the problem here partially is the US and western Europe thinking they are what they were 40 years ago. The world has changed. They don’t have nearly the power they once did. They’re nearly all states in decline.

Especially after divisive Obama who neutered the sect of state role, never investigated Iran nukes, let N Korea advance, Russia invade Crimea, did an executive order to attack Libya to help EU oil situation- which failed, let China steal iP and advance, Benghazi debacle & coverup, and took 9 months and a huge confrontation to finall approve the Biden attack before it would never work.

Worst foreign policy president in centuries.

And so is Biden.

Ha! Meant to say Bin Laden attack.

Usama Obama, Binladen Biden..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

Putin has been very open about his goals, and early on. You may disagree with them but they are well known. He does not want NATO to expand eastward. He will not tolerate NATO presence/membership/flirtation specifically in Ukraine and Georgia. These were all known facts. The entire problem can be condensed into this sentence: the West does not think Russia ought to have a sphere of influence, and Putin disagrees. That's it.

Quite interestingly, he does not feel the same about the Baltic republics. And this checks out because during the entire time of the USSR they were never really the part of the same space, not culturally. Their otherness was a given so their departure was expected and accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those sanctions are working so well......

The sanctions were a huge mistake. It’s accelerated the dollar losing reserve status as all other countries don’t want the USA to do it to them and are joining together.

Trump understands the big picture much better than the swamp. Our leaders are stupid.

Plus the misguided Cold War era sanctions drove a tighter bond between Russia, China and India and S America plus egregiously punished USA multinationals who operated and sold to Russia. Now they’re out 10% of their revenue and sold their assets there at a loss or write off.

Worst is “disallowing” countries to buy Russia oil or nat gas and no plan for where to buy it since everywhere at capacity, thus price is up and up and up.

Well done Biden. Should have given the Poles the old f-16 and bombed the Russian convoys when they were entering Ukraine, in February. Done and done. Air Force advised that, but Biden appointees and Biden said No. and here we are, grinding away money and lives, letting PUtin do whatever he wants.

I said it early on in this war but the problem here partially is the US and western Europe thinking they are what they were 40 years ago. The world has changed. They don’t have nearly the power they once did. They’re nearly all states in decline.

Especially after divisive Obama who neutered the sect of state role, never investigated Iran nukes, let N Korea advance, Russia invade Crimea, did an executive order to attack Libya to help EU oil situation- which failed, let China steal iP and advance, Benghazi debacle & coverup, and took 9 months and a huge confrontation to finall approve the Biden attack before it would never work.

Worst foreign policy president in centuries.

And so is Biden.

Says a former neocon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia. they will drag on and the world wont have appetite to carry on.

russia has over a million troops, they are playing games in ukrain, they could destroy it if they wanted to. they are essentially destabilizing the region. that is their goal so they are winning

Putin has been very open about his goals, and early on. You may disagree with them but they are well known. He does not want NATO to expand eastward. He will not tolerate NATO presence/membership/flirtation specifically in Ukraine and Georgia. These were all known facts. The entire problem can be condensed into this sentence: the West does not think Russia ought to have a sphere of influence, and Putin disagrees. That's it.

Quite interestingly, he does not feel the same about the Baltic republics. And this checks out because during the entire time of the USSR they were never really the part of the same space, not culturally. Their otherness was a given so their departure was expected and accepted.

They've said Lithuania is not a country. It's also quite clear that their issue with Ukraine is not NATO but the mere fact of their existence.