The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the “if something can’t survive on its own then it is not a big deal to abort its life” philosophy to me? Do you apply the same rationale to newborns, elderly people, and severely disabled people?

I’m not aware of any newborns, elderly people, or severely disabled people that need to be tethered to the bodily systems of another human being to survive. Some require organ transplants or blood infusions, but there is no law requiring their friends or family to give it to them.

Heck, in America, a corpse has more rights to its body than a pregnant woman.

It’s this.

PP who’s feigning stupidity, you know we can see through you, right? We cannot compel people to donate blood, pieces of liver, marrow or kidneys. We can’t even take perfectly good live-saving organs after death without the appropriate permission. But forced birthers want to compel women to stay pregnant, and as the Michigan GOP has demonstrated, they want to take away women’s ability not to get pregnant.

Covid vaccine was developed using fetal cells from an abortion. What about that?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8205255/





This blows the whole “fetuses are not people!” argument away. If fetuses aren’t people, why are we using their cells to help people?

And we are using human cells without any consent; the pp that says she couldn’t use one, a single one, of her father’s cells to save her own life got that wrong. We are definitely using cells from aborted babies to save our lives.

Wow.

Cells from an abortion belong to the mother. Consent was given by the person whose body produced the cells. This really doesn’t even warrant a response but I am feeling generous this morning.

Why didn’t we just use the mother’s cells to develop the covid vaccine? Her body “produced “ these life saving cells?

We did. You are the only person who doesn’t see that clearly.

no, because we could not use the mother’s cells. we used the her cells and the father’s cells combined: the cells of their child.

No, every cell in an embryo was created by the mothers body. The father only provided DNA. DNA is not a living cell. DNA are only the instructions.

If you don’t understand science that is ok but don’t act like you have some secret knowledge and everyone else is just ignorant.

A fertilized sperm cell and egg cell combination is known as a zygote, and the singular cell will start to divide rapidly in the days following successful fertilization.

The whole process needs a sperm cell. We can’t create life without a sperm cell and egg cell combination. Why does the “we can’t use one cell w/o consent!” skip over that detail?

The father provided a sperm cell. Every cell in the embryo would not even exist w/o the sperm cell.

A zygote consists of a single cell. That single cell was made by the body of the woman. The zygote was never a part of the man. Period. The first cell of an embryo does not exist independent of a womans body. The man gave “consent” when he provided his sperm to the female egg.

This is a completely absurd discussion!

First of all: you don’t decide when other people give consent. That’s really absurd. You must be extremely arrogant and stupid to determine when the rest of the wold gives their consent.

The embryo is not just a woman’s cell; it is the fathers’s cell also. The op tried to lie and say the father didn’t contribute any living cells to the baby; just dna. That’s false. The father and mother each contribute a living cell.

The cells from the mother and father combine to form a unique human baby-their child- and the cells the baby is compromised of are not the mother’s cells, either. They are living cells that belong to another completely different individual. That’s why vaccine manufacturers can’t use the cells of the mom to develop vaccines; they need the cells of her baby.

A zygote is a fertilized egg cell that results from the union of a female gamete (egg, or ovum) with a male gamete (sperm). Your definition of zygote is false.

The zygote is a single cell. It is not the fathers cell. It cannot be split into two other cells. It is fundamental and cannot be divided. It is literally built from the proteins that a mothers body produced from food that the mother ate. The genetic code to build that was synthesized from a combination of the female and male DNA. It is a brand new “thing” that never existed outside of the mothers body. The father gave his consent for whatever happens to his sperm by choosing the time and place he decided to ejaculate.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't care about women. They don't care about kids. They only care about unborn babies.

Exactly...They also care about controlling women.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the “if something can’t survive on its own then it is not a big deal to abort its life” philosophy to me? Do you apply the same rationale to newborns, elderly people, and severely disabled people?

I’m not aware of any newborns, elderly people, or severely disabled people that need to be tethered to the bodily systems of another human being to survive. Some require organ transplants or blood infusions, but there is no law requiring their friends or family to give it to them.

Heck, in America, a corpse has more rights to its body than a pregnant woman.

It’s this.

PP who’s feigning stupidity, you know we can see through you, right? We cannot compel people to donate blood, pieces of liver, marrow or kidneys. We can’t even take perfectly good live-saving organs after death without the appropriate permission. But forced birthers want to compel women to stay pregnant, and as the Michigan GOP has demonstrated, they want to take away women’s ability not to get pregnant.

Covid vaccine was developed using fetal cells from an abortion. What about that?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8205255/





This blows the whole “fetuses are not people!” argument away. If fetuses aren’t people, why are we using their cells to help people?

And we are using human cells without any consent; the pp that says she couldn’t use one, a single one, of her father’s cells to save her own life got that wrong. We are definitely using cells from aborted babies to save our lives.

Wow.

Cells from an abortion belong to the mother. Consent was given by the person whose body produced the cells. This really doesn’t even warrant a response but I am feeling generous this morning.

Why didn’t we just use the mother’s cells to develop the covid vaccine? Her body “produced “ these life saving cells?

We did. You are the only person who doesn’t see that clearly.

no, because we could not use the mother’s cells. we used the her cells and the father’s cells combined: the cells of their child.

No, every cell in an embryo was created by the mothers body. The father only provided DNA. DNA is not a living cell. DNA are only the instructions.

If you don’t understand science that is ok but don’t act like you have some secret knowledge and everyone else is just ignorant.

Speaking of science, do you not know sperm is the male reproductive cell?

Did you know that the male sperm cell ceases to exist once an egg is fertilized? The first cell of an embryo is a zygote. A zygote cannot be divided into less than 1 cell. Therefor the zygote is produced by the female body. She doesn’t need consent to do whatever she wants with cells produced by her own body.

Another (weird) lie. It doesn’t cease to exist; it’s half the zygote.

A zygote is a single cell. Two cells cannot makeup one single cell without ceasing to be two independent cells. 1+1 /= 1

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the “if something can’t survive on its own then it is not a big deal to abort its life” philosophy to me? Do you apply the same rationale to newborns, elderly people, and severely disabled people?

I’m not aware of any newborns, elderly people, or severely disabled people that need to be tethered to the bodily systems of another human being to survive. Some require organ transplants or blood infusions, but there is no law requiring their friends or family to give it to them.

Heck, in America, a corpse has more rights to its body than a pregnant woman.

It’s this.

PP who’s feigning stupidity, you know we can see through you, right? We cannot compel people to donate blood, pieces of liver, marrow or kidneys. We can’t even take perfectly good live-saving organs after death without the appropriate permission. But forced birthers want to compel women to stay pregnant, and as the Michigan GOP has demonstrated, they want to take away women’s ability not to get pregnant.

Covid vaccine was developed using fetal cells from an abortion. What about that?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8205255/





This blows the whole “fetuses are not people!” argument away. If fetuses aren’t people, why are we using their cells to help people?

And we are using human cells without any consent; the pp that says she couldn’t use one, a single one, of her father’s cells to save her own life got that wrong. We are definitely using cells from aborted babies to save our lives.

Wow.

Cells from an abortion belong to the mother. Consent was given by the person whose body produced the cells. This really doesn’t even warrant a response but I am feeling generous this morning.

Why didn’t we just use the mother’s cells to develop the covid vaccine? Her body “produced “ these life saving cells?

We did. You are the only person who doesn’t see that clearly.

no, because we could not use the mother’s cells. we used the her cells and the father’s cells combined: the cells of their child.

No, every cell in an embryo was created by the mothers body. The father only provided DNA. DNA is not a living cell. DNA are only the instructions.

If you don’t understand science that is ok but don’t act like you have some secret knowledge and everyone else is just ignorant.

A fertilized sperm cell and egg cell combination is known as a zygote, and the singular cell will start to divide rapidly in the days following successful fertilization.

The whole process needs a sperm cell. We can’t create life without a sperm cell and egg cell combination. Why does the “we can’t use one cell w/o consent!” skip over that detail?

The father provided a sperm cell. Every cell in the embryo would not even exist w/o the sperm cell.

A zygote consists of a single cell. That single cell was made by the body of the woman. The zygote was never a part of the man. Period. The first cell of an embryo does not exist independent of a womans body. The man gave “consent” when he provided his sperm to the female egg.

This is a completely absurd discussion!

First of all: you don’t decide when other people give consent. That’s really absurd. You must be extremely arrogant and stupid to determine when the rest of the wold gives their consent.

The embryo is not just a woman’s cell; it is the fathers’s cell also. The op tried to lie and say the father didn’t contribute any living cells to the baby; just dna. That’s false. The father and mother each contribute a living cell.

The cells from the mother and father combine to form a unique human baby-their child- and the cells the baby is compromised of are not the mother’s cells, either. They are living cells that belong to another completely different individual. That’s why vaccine manufacturers can’t use the cells of the mom to develop vaccines; they need the cells of her baby.

A zygote is a fertilized egg cell that results from the union of a female gamete (egg, or ovum) with a male gamete (sperm). Your definition of zygote is false.

The zygote is a single cell. It is not the fathers cell. It cannot be split into two other cells. It is fundamental and cannot be divided. It is literally built from the proteins that a mothers body produced from food that the mother ate. The genetic code to build that was synthesized from a combination of the female and male DNA. It is a brand new “thing” that never existed outside of the mothers body. The father gave his consent for whatever happens to his sperm by choosing the time and place he decided to ejaculate.

If you really think you speak for all men about consent, you are delusional.

A zygote is the combination of 2 living cells, one from the mom, and one from the dad.







Gametes are an organism's reproductive cells. They are also referred to as sex cells. Female gametes are called ova or egg cells, and male gametes are called sperm.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the “if something can’t survive on its own then it is not a big deal to abort its life” philosophy to me? Do you apply the same rationale to newborns, elderly people, and severely disabled people?

I’m not aware of any newborns, elderly people, or severely disabled people that need to be tethered to the bodily systems of another human being to survive. Some require organ transplants or blood infusions, but there is no law requiring their friends or family to give it to them.

Heck, in America, a corpse has more rights to its body than a pregnant woman.

It’s this.

PP who’s feigning stupidity, you know we can see through you, right? We cannot compel people to donate blood, pieces of liver, marrow or kidneys. We can’t even take perfectly good live-saving organs after death without the appropriate permission. But forced birthers want to compel women to stay pregnant, and as the Michigan GOP has demonstrated, they want to take away women’s ability not to get pregnant.

Covid vaccine was developed using fetal cells from an abortion. What about that?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8205255/





This blows the whole “fetuses are not people!” argument away. If fetuses aren’t people, why are we using their cells to help people?

And we are using human cells without any consent; the pp that says she couldn’t use one, a single one, of her father’s cells to save her own life got that wrong. We are definitely using cells from aborted babies to save our lives.

Wow.

Cells from an abortion belong to the mother. Consent was given by the person whose body produced the cells. This really doesn’t even warrant a response but I am feeling generous this morning.

Why didn’t we just use the mother’s cells to develop the covid vaccine? Her body “produced “ these life saving cells?

We did. You are the only person who doesn’t see that clearly.

no, because we could not use the mother’s cells. we used the her cells and the father’s cells combined: the cells of their child.

No, every cell in an embryo was created by the mothers body. The father only provided DNA. DNA is not a living cell. DNA are only the instructions.

If you don’t understand science that is ok but don’t act like you have some secret knowledge and everyone else is just ignorant.

Speaking of science, do you not know sperm is the male reproductive cell?

Did you know that the male sperm cell ceases to exist once an egg is fertilized? The first cell of an embryo is a zygote. A zygote cannot be divided into less than 1 cell. Therefor the zygote is produced by the female body. She doesn’t need consent to do whatever she wants with cells produced by her own body.

Another (weird) lie. It doesn’t cease to exist; it’s half the zygote.

A zygote is a single cell. Two cells cannot makeup one single cell without ceasing to be two independent cells. 1+1 /= 1

In human fertilization, a released ovum (a haploid secondary oocyte with replicate chromosome copies) and a haploid sperm cell (male gamete)—combine to form a single 2n diploid cell called the zygote.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the “if something can’t survive on its own then it is not a big deal to abort its life” philosophy to me? Do you apply the same rationale to newborns, elderly people, and severely disabled people?

I’m not aware of any newborns, elderly people, or severely disabled people that need to be tethered to the bodily systems of another human being to survive. Some require organ transplants or blood infusions, but there is no law requiring their friends or family to give it to them.

Heck, in America, a corpse has more rights to its body than a pregnant woman.

It’s this.

PP who’s feigning stupidity, you know we can see through you, right? We cannot compel people to donate blood, pieces of liver, marrow or kidneys. We can’t even take perfectly good live-saving organs after death without the appropriate permission. But forced birthers want to compel women to stay pregnant, and as the Michigan GOP has demonstrated, they want to take away women’s ability not to get pregnant.

Covid vaccine was developed using fetal cells from an abortion. What about that?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8205255/





This blows the whole “fetuses are not people!” argument away. If fetuses aren’t people, why are we using their cells to help people?

And we are using human cells without any consent; the pp that says she couldn’t use one, a single one, of her father’s cells to save her own life got that wrong. We are definitely using cells from aborted babies to save our lives.

Wow.

Cells from an abortion belong to the mother. Consent was given by the person whose body produced the cells. This really doesn’t even warrant a response but I am feeling generous this morning.

Why didn’t we just use the mother’s cells to develop the covid vaccine? Her body “produced “ these life saving cells?

We did. You are the only person who doesn’t see that clearly.

no, because we could not use the mother’s cells. we used the her cells and the father’s cells combined: the cells of their child.

No, every cell in an embryo was created by the mothers body. The father only provided DNA. DNA is not a living cell. DNA are only the instructions.

If you don’t understand science that is ok but don’t act like you have some secret knowledge and everyone else is just ignorant.

Speaking of science, do you not know sperm is the male reproductive cell?

Did you know that the male sperm cell ceases to exist once an egg is fertilized? The first cell of an embryo is a zygote. A zygote cannot be divided into less than 1 cell. Therefor the zygote is produced by the female body. She doesn’t need consent to do whatever she wants with cells produced by her own body.

Another (weird) lie. It doesn’t cease to exist; it’s half the zygote.

A zygote is a single cell. Two cells cannot makeup one single cell without ceasing to be two independent cells. 1+1 /= 1

In human fertilization, a released ovum (a haploid secondary oocyte with replicate chromosome copies) and a haploid sperm cell (male gamete)—combine to form a single 2n diploid cell called the zygote.

Exactly. One single cell.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the “if something can’t survive on its own then it is not a big deal to abort its life” philosophy to me? Do you apply the same rationale to newborns, elderly people, and severely disabled people?

I’m not aware of any newborns, elderly people, or severely disabled people that need to be tethered to the bodily systems of another human being to survive. Some require organ transplants or blood infusions, but there is no law requiring their friends or family to give it to them.

Heck, in America, a corpse has more rights to its body than a pregnant woman.

It’s this.

PP who’s feigning stupidity, you know we can see through you, right? We cannot compel people to donate blood, pieces of liver, marrow or kidneys. We can’t even take perfectly good live-saving organs after death without the appropriate permission. But forced birthers want to compel women to stay pregnant, and as the Michigan GOP has demonstrated, they want to take away women’s ability not to get pregnant.

Covid vaccine was developed using fetal cells from an abortion. What about that?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8205255/





This blows the whole “fetuses are not people!” argument away. If fetuses aren’t people, why are we using their cells to help people?

And we are using human cells without any consent; the pp that says she couldn’t use one, a single one, of her father’s cells to save her own life got that wrong. We are definitely using cells from aborted babies to save our lives.

Wow.

Cells from an abortion belong to the mother. Consent was given by the person whose body produced the cells. This really doesn’t even warrant a response but I am feeling generous this morning.

Why didn’t we just use the mother’s cells to develop the covid vaccine? Her body “produced “ these life saving cells?

We did. You are the only person who doesn’t see that clearly.

no, because we could not use the mother’s cells. we used the her cells and the father’s cells combined: the cells of their child.

No, every cell in an embryo was created by the mothers body. The father only provided DNA. DNA is not a living cell. DNA are only the instructions.

If you don’t understand science that is ok but don’t act like you have some secret knowledge and everyone else is just ignorant.

Speaking of science, do you not know sperm is the male reproductive cell?

Did you know that the male sperm cell ceases to exist once an egg is fertilized? The first cell of an embryo is a zygote. A zygote cannot be divided into less than 1 cell. Therefor the zygote is produced by the female body. She doesn’t need consent to do whatever she wants with cells produced by her own body.

Another (weird) lie. It doesn’t cease to exist; it’s half the zygote.

A zygote is a single cell. Two cells cannot makeup one single cell without ceasing to be two independent cells. 1+1 /= 1

In human fertilization, a released ovum (a haploid secondary oocyte with replicate chromosome copies) and a haploid sperm cell (male gamete)—combine to form a single 2n diploid cell called the zygote.

Exactly. One single cell.

Comprised of a cell each from the parents. That’s inconvenient for you, but you don’t seem to
mind be wrong, so full speed ahead!

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Anonymous wrote:Also, was explain one situation in which the government forced anyone to get a vaccine. I imagine we will be waiting all day because it didn't happen.

My sibling had to get vaccinated to stay in the military and keep their military career intact.

But that's not being lined up and injected forcibly with fear of imprisonment. That is a choice. And a bad example since military personnel have to give up lots of personal freedoms to be in the military anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, was explain one situation in which the government forced anyone to get a vaccine. I imagine we will be waiting all day because it didn't happen.

My sibling had to get vaccinated to stay in the military and keep their military career intact.

But that's not being lined up and injected forcibly with fear of imprisonment. That is a choice. And a bad example since military personnel have to give up lots of personal freedoms to be in the military anyway.

Seriously. I sign up to be shot at by foreign enemies via guns, bombs, missiles, etc. and to be told what to do on a regular basis by my so called superiors, but God forbid you inject me with a proven vaccine. Stupid is as stupid does.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, was explain one situation in which the government forced anyone to get a vaccine. I imagine we will be waiting all day because it didn't happen.

My sibling had to get vaccinated to stay in the military and keep their military career intact.

But that's not being lined up and injected forcibly with fear of imprisonment. That is a choice. And a bad example since military personnel have to give up lots of personal freedoms to be in the military anyway.

pp didn’t ask if anyone was threatened with imprisonment; they asked if the vaccine was forced, which it was in the case of thousands of people.

Just because you serve in the military, you should not give up all your rights. As you note, people who serve do give up alot of rights and make sacrifices which are not appreciated by many ppl.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, was explain one situation in which the government forced anyone to get a vaccine. I imagine we will be waiting all day because it didn't happen.

My sibling had to get vaccinated to stay in the military and keep their military career intact.

But that's not being lined up and injected forcibly with fear of imprisonment. That is a choice. And a bad example since military personnel have to give up lots of personal freedoms to be in the military anyway.

Seriously. I sign up to be shot at by foreign enemies via guns, bombs, missiles, etc. and to be told what to do on a regular basis by my so called superiors, but God forbid you inject me with a proven vaccine. Stupid is as stupid does.

You have a combat MOS? Thanks for putting your actual skin in the game. Too many remfs pretend to be combat MOS personnel when actually they ride a desk and see no action. Kudos.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, was explain one situation in which the government forced anyone to get a vaccine. I imagine we will be waiting all day because it didn't happen.

My sibling had to get vaccinated to stay in the military and keep their military career intact.

But that's not being lined up and injected forcibly with fear of imprisonment. That is a choice. And a bad example since military personnel have to give up lots of personal freedoms to be in the military anyway.

Seriously. I sign up to be shot at by foreign enemies via guns, bombs, missiles, etc. and to be told what to do on a regular basis by my so called superiors, but God forbid you inject me with a proven vaccine. Stupid is as stupid does.

I mean pp a few posts back said that if she wants to stop getting vaccines, she says stop and they stop. She said each person has bodily autonomy even after death. But that doesn’t apply to military personnel, pre-born babies, men who by the laws of biology contribute a live sex cell to create a new life. Who else gets their bodily autonomy taken away? Let’s make a list. Somehow the cells of a child are used w/o their consent or the consent of their father to be used in medical experiments and to create vaccines. i guess the one cell theory is for umc white women only.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the “if something can’t survive on its own then it is not a big deal to abort its life” philosophy to me? Do you apply the same rationale to newborns, elderly people, and severely disabled people?

I’m not aware of any newborns, elderly people, or severely disabled people that need to be tethered to the bodily systems of another human being to survive. Some require organ transplants or blood infusions, but there is no law requiring their friends or family to give it to them.

Heck, in America, a corpse has more rights to its body than a pregnant woman.

It’s this.

PP who’s feigning stupidity, you know we can see through you, right? We cannot compel people to donate blood, pieces of liver, marrow or kidneys. We can’t even take perfectly good live-saving organs after death without the appropriate permission. But forced birthers want to compel women to stay pregnant, and as the Michigan GOP has demonstrated, they want to take away women’s ability not to get pregnant.

Covid vaccine was developed using fetal cells from an abortion. What about that?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8205255/





This blows the whole “fetuses are not people!” argument away. If fetuses aren’t people, why are we using their cells to help people?

And we are using human cells without any consent; the pp that says she couldn’t use one, a single one, of her father’s cells to save her own life got that wrong. We are definitely using cells from aborted babies to save our lives.

Wow.

Cells from an abortion belong to the mother. Consent was given by the person whose body produced the cells. This really doesn’t even warrant a response but I am feeling generous this morning.

Why didn’t we just use the mother’s cells to develop the covid vaccine? Her body “produced “ these life saving cells?

We did. You are the only person who doesn’t see that clearly.

no, because we could not use the mother’s cells. we used the her cells and the father’s cells combined: the cells of their child.

No, every cell in an embryo was created by the mothers body. The father only provided DNA. DNA is not a living cell. DNA are only the instructions.

If you don’t understand science that is ok but don’t act like you have some secret knowledge and everyone else is just ignorant.

Speaking of science, do you not know sperm is the male reproductive cell?

Did you know that the male sperm cell ceases to exist once an egg is fertilized? The first cell of an embryo is a zygote. A zygote cannot be divided into less than 1 cell. Therefor the zygote is produced by the female body. She doesn’t need consent to do whatever she wants with cells produced by her own body.

Another (weird) lie. It doesn’t cease to exist; it’s half the zygote.

A zygote is a single cell. Two cells cannot makeup one single cell without ceasing to be two independent cells. 1+1 /= 1

In human fertilization, a released ovum (a haploid secondary oocyte with replicate chromosome copies) and a haploid sperm cell (male gamete)—combine to form a single 2n diploid cell called the zygote.

Exactly. One single cell.

Comprised of a cell each from the parents. That’s inconvenient for you, but you don’t seem to
mind be wrong, so full speed ahead!

This is the fallacy of abortion being "a women's choice." It's not a natural choice nor a natural right anymore than stepping on a bug, killing a mouse, or eradicating an internal disease. The only thing that matters in all of this is the legal determination of when this entity is considered a human life. At that point, killing that human life would be the same as killing a newborn, an invalid, an elderly person with dementia or terminal disease, etc. Prior to that point it should be equivalent (legally) to killing a foreign body in the woman's body (germ, virus, parasite, etc.). Scientifically, the argument is that this point is around 20-24 weeks. Some states are trying to make it 15 weeks. Either way that is at least 3 months from time of conception. Is it really that difficult, if you're a woman having sex with one or more partners to monitor your monthly cycle and take a home pregnancy test in those first 3 months if you miss your normal period? If you're positive and don't want a child, then get an abortion immediately. The boyfriend/partner/husband can also participate in this same decision process, with the decision still being the woman's prior to the 15 or 24 week point.

In cases of rape - do the same. Take a pregnancy test early and take action as desired. In case of a dangerous pregnancy (threat of life to mother and/or child) then different laws should apply with protection of mother being the priority with consultation of doctor and spouse (when applicable).

Why is this so hard to comprehend and agree to?

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Np- it doesn’t matter if the zygote is one cell or two. It isn’t a person and can’t give consent.
But I encourage forced birthers to forego all vaccines.
Please do the world a favor.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, was explain one situation in which the government forced anyone to get a vaccine. I imagine we will be waiting all day because it didn't happen.

My sibling had to get vaccinated to stay in the military and keep their military career intact.

But that's not being lined up and injected forcibly with fear of imprisonment. That is a choice. And a bad example since military personnel have to give up lots of personal freedoms to be in the military anyway.

Seriously. I sign up to be shot at by foreign enemies via guns, bombs, missiles, etc. and to be told what to do on a regular basis by my so called superiors, but God forbid you inject me with a proven vaccine. Stupid is as stupid does.

I mean pp a few posts back said that if she wants to stop getting vaccines, she says stop and they stop. She said each person has bodily autonomy even after death. But that doesn’t apply to military personnel, pre-born babies, men who by the laws of biology contribute a live sex cell to create a new life. Who else gets their bodily autonomy taken away? Let’s make a list. Somehow the cells of a child are used w/o their consent or the consent of their father to be used in medical experiments and to create vaccines. i guess the one cell theory is for umc white women only.

add Henrietta Lacks and Tuskegee…utter shame.