The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics
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Anonymous
At first I found “pregnant people” tedious, but a shocking number on the right wing actually need reminders that cis/straight women are, in fact, people, as opposed to hosts for the glorious, God-sustained fetus. To say nothing of the folks that don’t identify as women. So I’m ok with it. Pregnant humans, citizens that are pregnant, humans that are actively sustaining potential humans by their blood and organs, whatever it takes. |
Anonymous
Potential human? A human is a human. Nothing on earth changes from non-human to human. |
Anonymous
No. Stop it. It is not equal to the women carrying it. WOMEN FIRST! |
Anonymous
m The skepticism toward your virtue-signaling by talking about humans as if you care about them stems from the inhumanity of your policies toward those on the lowest rung of society. If right wingers would fight as much for the lives of children and families living in poverty as they did for a zygote without a willing gestational carrier then they might be more believable in their professed humanity. |
Anonymous
I’m the pp to whom you’re responding and also the op of this thread. I find the phrase tedious and frankly, something that erases the 99.99% of people in humanity who have ever given birth, but let’s not take the thread off topic by trying to expand it. Both of the above tweet people are very much up on this and Imani Gandy is especially on it. |
Anonymous
all humans are equal |
Anonymous
No one believes you actually believe that. |
Anonymous
Nothing is human until it is born. If it can't survive on its own it is not human. |
Anonymous
A 6 month old baby is born and can’t survive on his or her own. A born toddler or preschool child is born but can’t survive on his or her own. Apparently according to dcum baby killers, those children aren’t human. A baby inside it’s mom is a human in early stages of development. Thread calling people monsters is really monsters openly admitting they don’t feel babies aren’t human and are ok with killing them. Sick people here. Adult humans on life support can’t survive on his or her own, do they lose the human classification during that time? What about children that mature into adults but are born with physical or mental disabilities and will never be able to care for themselves? Are they human? |
Anonymous
Is that a scientific classification? Is that a medical definition? Please link the source from which you found this fact? |
Anonymous
You are just being purposely stupid. If it can't live without a host, by definition it is a parasite. I am not required to give over my body to anyone else for it to survive. |
Anonymous
Those 6 month old babies can be taken care of by anyone, same with adults on life support. They are born and of this world. They do not rely on the body of one particular human being. When you are pitting an actual woman born and living in this world against a zygote that can only continue to grow by borrowing her body, and concluding that the zygote is more important, then you are dehumanizing the woman by denying her ability to decide for herself if she is going to loan her body for a potentially lethal process. As someone who suffered through a terribly difficult pregnancy that left life-long physical health problems in me, I say a big FU to people who don't recognize the humanity and autonomy of women who aren't willing to go through the disruption and adversity of 9 months of pregnancy, the suffering of giving birth, and the challenges of post-partum recovery that will never return you to your pre-pregnancy body. You are horrible people. |
Anonymous
| They've made it obvious they don't care about women. |
Anonymous
Calling the preborn parasites reveals a lack of scientific understanding. First, the fetus is the same type of organism as the mother. Parasites are different organisms which latch on to another species, causing it harm. Second, parasites are not where they belong, but the preborn child is precisely where it is supposed to be. The natural changes that take place in the woman’s body to make room for this new little human do not damage her body. Although there may be challenges in being pregnant, they are in no way legitimately comparable to the damage and harm a parasite does to another organism. For many years, it was thought that pregnant women have suppressed immune function, but a review paper published by an OBGYN specializing in Reproductive Immunology discusses how this dated viewpoint is not scientifically correct. Additionally, fetal stem cells are known to travel to sites of damage or injury in the mother, and mothers with a weakened heart, for example, get fetal stem cells which travel to their hearts and turn into cardiac cells, helping strengthen the mother’s heart. In contrast, the parasitic latching on to another organism does not help the host and there is no mutual sharing of benefits. Finally, the relationship of the preborn to the mother is a healthy, beneficial, and natural one. That is not true of a parasitic relationship. As Dr. Staff aptly points out, “It all boils down to the fact that parent and child have a common goal: the child’s survival. Host and parasite, on the other hand, have a fundamental disagreement about the desirability of the parasite’s survival.” Speaking about parasites, the Center for Disease Control makes a notable distinction between the preborn and parasites stating “Pregnant women often need special consideration when being treated for parasitic diseases in order to avoid harm to the fetus, especially during the first trimester.” Really should understand basic science if you are going to use it to try to boost your optics when killing babies. Also, having a difficult or challenging pregnancy doesn’t give you a free pass to kill babies. |
Anonymous
All I hear is “I’d rather kill my own kid than lose my figure.” |