Youngkin: cancel minimum wage hike, cut early voting, expand open carry

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Why is anyone against an ID requirement??

They are lazy and racist. Everytime this comes up they claim the inconvenience too great and POC can't handle obtaining documents like birth certificates. The DMV gives you a checklist of docs you need, it's really quite simple

Not so simple when the GOP surgically targets DMVs and polling places to close in majority minority neighborhoods specifically to make it harder for minorities to get ID and vote.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/voting-rights-act/alabamas-dmv-shutdown-has-everything-do-race

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05/23/texas-voting-polling-restrictions/

Not so simple when the GOP reduces hours at the remaining DMVs so that working class people in majority minority neighborhoods who have to travel long distances to get their ID must take off time from work to do so, then blocks laws to require employers to provide paid leave so that minorities have to choose between being able to vote or putting food on the table.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/challenge-obtaining-voter-identification

Not so simple when the GOP raises the fees for obtaining a driver's license, making it harder to obtain for low-income workers who skew disproportionately black and hispanic.

https://kutv.com/news/local/proposed-bill-would-make-renewing-drivers-licenses-more-expensive

Not so simple when the GOP underfunds public transport, making it take even longer and more expensive for people without a driver's license to get to the now-further-away DMVs with now-reduced hours and now-more-expensive ID fees.

The ridiculous Tucker Carlson talking point you spout that "POC 'can't handle' getting a driver's license" is insane and completely disingenuous. It is objectively harder for a low income person in a majority minority neighborhood to obtain a legitimate voter ID than it is for a higher income white person, and the GOP deliberately makes it that way specifically to prevent POC from voting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Why is anyone against an ID requirement??

Why is anyone against early voting?

Because it makes it easier for people with limited transportation, or people with inflexible jobs (more that one gig), kids to vote. If you make it harder for people to vote you will have less Democrats casting votes. Get the plan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Why is anyone against an ID requirement??

They are lazy and racist. Everytime this comes up they claim the inconvenience too great and POC can't handle obtaining documents like birth certificates. The DMV gives you a checklist of docs you need, it's really quite simple

I’m not old or poor and it has been a huge PITA for me.

The GOP is pretty transparent about its effort to disenfranchise D voters across the board. They realize they can only win by taking away votes from eligible voters. And throwing away results they don’t like.

I guess it is a PITA to go online to request a copy of your birth certificate and marriage license. Previous generations were able to handle 3-4 hour in-person waits managing to get ID without even the internet. But I hope you understand not everyone, especially POC, have the same issues you seem to have with following directions.

The process is a huge PITA for everyone.
What if you don’t have unexpired US passport or US birth certificate?
(I didn’t have a valid drivers license & 2 additional forms of ID to get my certified birth certificate from my birth state. And once I sorted that out it took 3 months because of the backlog.)
What if you’re not on a lease/mortgage/utility?
What if you changed your name?

It’s a bit circular. If you don’t have a valid ID it’s very difficult to a REAL ID.

Here’s what you need for REAL ID:
Bring one from this category:
e.g., unexpired U.S. passport or U.S. birth certificate

Bring one from this category:
e.g., Social Security card or W-2 form displaying full number; Note: You will not be required to present proof of your Social Security number if you know the number and DMV is able to electronically verify it.

Bring two from this category:
e.g., valid Virginia driver’s license, recent utility bills, mortgage statement, or rental lease agreements displaying current residential street address, not a P.O. Box. Note: You may redact (blackout/whiteout) sensitive financial information.

Name changes:
If your name appears differently on your proof documents, you will be asked to present additional documentation to connect the names, such as a marriage certificate filed with a government agency or court, divorce decree, or court order. Note: Marriage licenses, civil union documents, and marriage certificates signed only by the wedding officiant (for example, a member of the clergy) will NOT be accepted. See REAL ID FAQs for more information.

Virginia doesn't require a REAL ID to vote. Just a driver's license. You can renew your driver's license and not get a REAL ID. You only need REAL ID for flying and some federal things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Why is anyone against an ID requirement??

Why is anyone against early voting?

Because it makes it easier for people with limited transportation, or people with inflexible jobs (more that one gig), kids to vote. If you make it harder for people to vote you will have less Democrats casting votes. Get the plan?

I just want to hear a republican actually defend it. They seem to want to deflect to ID rather than early voting. Still have seen a defense in this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To the person complaining that it takes way too much time and effort to get a license renewed - yes, it does. But you acting like it’s some kind of impossible task only makes people take you even less seriously.

Everyone needs a state-issued ID. Everyone dreads the DMV. Doesn’t really matter. Quit complaining and do what needs to be done.

I’m just pointing out that it’s not a trivial task. Especially the Real ID.

And I am lucky enough to have a car & money. And I can track down the various documents required for the Real ID. And while it’s a pain to schedule time off of work I can get time off of work. It’s possibly an extremely challenging task for some people.

Also, I haven’t had a valid ID in almost 2 years. You don’t “need” a valid gov’t ID.

Interesting. I guess you never see the doctor? Buy alcohol? Rent a car? Board a plane? Stay at hotels?

Not in the last 2 years.

My passport is expired too.

All my identifying documents have expired. Why won't you just take my word? /s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the person complaining that it takes way too much time and effort to get a license renewed - yes, it does. But you acting like it’s some kind of impossible task only makes people take you even less seriously.

Everyone needs a state-issued ID. Everyone dreads the DMV. Doesn’t really matter. Quit complaining and do what needs to be done.

I’m just pointing out that it’s not a trivial task. Especially the Real ID.

And I am lucky enough to have a car & money. And I can track down the various documents required for the Real ID. And while it’s a pain to schedule time off of work I can get time off of work. It’s possibly an extremely challenging task for some people.

Also, I haven’t had a valid ID in almost 2 years. You don’t “need” a valid gov’t ID.

Interesting. I guess you never see the doctor? Buy alcohol? Rent a car? Board a plane? Stay at hotels?

Not in the last 2 years.

My passport is expired too.

All my identifying documents have expired. Why won't you just take my word? /s

I have no reason to lie. They weren’t expired when I set out on my journey to get a new license in 2020.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Someone should fund the distribution of AR-15s to black men and bus them into white suburbs to open carry.

I have zero problem with this. I love talking guns with other gun people. They can hang out at my place and we’ll order pizza and talk about about various upgrades and accessories!

See, unlike you, I’m not afraid of seeing black guys with guns. You obviously think that’s something to fear.

The NRA was once strongly in favor of gun control because of black people open carrying.

You are an anomaly. The vast majority of your like-minded gun fetishists would freak out if this happened and you know it.

My distaste for open carry has nothing to do with skin color. This is America, not Somalia or Afghanistan. Stop trying to make us look like a lawless jurisdiction by arming legends in their own mind with weapons of mass destruction.

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never been an NRA member. I’m a JPFO, GOA and SAF member.

Go to the gun show in Chantilly sometime and you’ll see plenty of my “like minded gun fetishists” walking the show aisles right next to black guys doing the same exact thing. Gun culture doesn’t care what color you are.

That’s what’s keeping your tiny, hateful racist mind from processing it. You simply don’t understand your enemy. You only understand the cliches you parrot.


But we definitely understand you.

Ok, for starters, I'm a gun owner. I'm not a member of any of those radical neo-fascist organizations you seem proud of. I'm also secure enough as a man and a gun owner that I don't need a "gun culture" to celebrate.

I'm also a better American than you.

The bit about my "tiny racist mind" is amusing, though. Let's review: The cosplay clowns who walk around with their guns and are legends in their own mind are by and large rejects of the military or could never be employed by law enforcement. So, they like to go play at "militias." They are inherently tied to white supremacy groups. And, in my experience, those who say loudest "I'm not racist because some of my friends, er fellow gun owners, are black" are inherently racist because they lack any understanding of their white privilege and in fact actively resist recommendations that they examine it.

I'm sure you think you're a good person. But you're not. Anyone who would normalize open carrying of weapons in a peaceful society is garbage.

Sounds like Virginia really isn't for you. Maybe you should move to Mogadishu? I'm told beachfront property is cheap there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should fund the distribution of AR-15s to black men and bus them into white suburbs to open carry.

I have zero problem with this. I love talking guns with other gun people. They can hang out at my place and we’ll order pizza and talk about about various upgrades and accessories!

See, unlike you, I’m not afraid of seeing black guys with guns. You obviously think that’s something to fear.

The NRA was once strongly in favor of gun control because of black people open carrying.

You are an anomaly. The vast majority of your like-minded gun fetishists would freak out if this happened and you know it.

My distaste for open carry has nothing to do with skin color. This is America, not Somalia or Afghanistan. Stop trying to make us look like a lawless jurisdiction by arming legends in their own mind with weapons of mass destruction.

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never been an NRA member. I’m a JPFO, GOA and SAF member.

Go to the gun show in Chantilly sometime and you’ll see plenty of my “like minded gun fetishists” walking the show aisles right next to black guys doing the same exact thing. Gun culture doesn’t care what color you are.

That’s what’s keeping your tiny, hateful racist mind from processing it. You simply don’t understand your enemy. You only understand the cliches you parrot.


But we definitely understand you.

+100
Amazing how true racists are constantly projecting.

LOL. Dude essentially said some of his friends are black therefore he's not racist.

LOL. Sit down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should fund the distribution of AR-15s to black men and bus them into white suburbs to open carry.

I have zero problem with this. I love talking guns with other gun people. They can hang out at my place and we’ll order pizza and talk about about various upgrades and accessories!

See, unlike you, I’m not afraid of seeing black guys with guns. You obviously think that’s something to fear.

The NRA was once strongly in favor of gun control because of black people open carrying.

You are an anomaly. The vast majority of your like-minded gun fetishists would freak out if this happened and you know it.

My distaste for open carry has nothing to do with skin color. This is America, not Somalia or Afghanistan. Stop trying to make us look like a lawless jurisdiction by arming legends in their own mind with weapons of mass destruction.

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never been an NRA member. I’m a JPFO, GOA and SAF member.

Go to the gun show in Chantilly sometime and you’ll see plenty of my “like minded gun fetishists” walking the show aisles right next to black guys doing the same exact thing. Gun culture doesn’t care what color you are.

That’s what’s keeping your tiny, hateful racist mind from processing it. You simply don’t understand your enemy. You only understand the cliches you parrot.


But we definitely understand you.

Ok, for starters, I'm a gun owner. I'm not a member of any of those radical neo-fascist organizations you seem proud of. I'm also secure enough as a man and a gun owner that I don't need a "gun culture" to celebrate.

I'm also a better American than you.

The bit about my "tiny racist mind" is amusing, though. Let's review: The cosplay clowns who walk around with their guns and are legends in their own mind are by and large rejects of the military or could never be employed by law enforcement. So, they like to go play at "militias." They are inherently tied to white supremacy groups. And, in my experience, those who say loudest "I'm not racist because some of my friends, er fellow gun owners, are black" are inherently racist because they lack any understanding of their white privilege and in fact actively resist recommendations that they examine it.

I'm sure you think you're a good person. But you're not. Anyone who would normalize open carrying of weapons in a peaceful society is garbage.

Sounds like Virginia really isn't for you. Maybe you should move to Mogadishu? I'm told beachfront property is cheap there.

Different poster, but you really do live in a fantasy of your own making, don't you? Other people fit so nicely into your judgmental, bigoted views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should fund the distribution of AR-15s to black men and bus them into white suburbs to open carry.

I have zero problem with this. I love talking guns with other gun people. They can hang out at my place and we’ll order pizza and talk about about various upgrades and accessories!

See, unlike you, I’m not afraid of seeing black guys with guns. You obviously think that’s something to fear.

The NRA was once strongly in favor of gun control because of black people open carrying.

You are an anomaly. The vast majority of your like-minded gun fetishists would freak out if this happened and you know it.

My distaste for open carry has nothing to do with skin color. This is America, not Somalia or Afghanistan. Stop trying to make us look like a lawless jurisdiction by arming legends in their own mind with weapons of mass destruction.

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never been an NRA member. I’m a JPFO, GOA and SAF member.

Go to the gun show in Chantilly sometime and you’ll see plenty of my “like minded gun fetishists” walking the show aisles right next to black guys doing the same exact thing. Gun culture doesn’t care what color you are.

That’s what’s keeping your tiny, hateful racist mind from processing it. You simply don’t understand your enemy. You only understand the cliches you parrot.


But we definitely understand you.

+100
Amazing how true racists are constantly projecting.

LOL. Dude essentially said some of his friends are black therefore he's not racist.

LOL. Sit down.

Comprehension problems from your public school education? PP never called them friends. He noted a diverse crowd, not your good old white boy fantasy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should fund the distribution of AR-15s to black men and bus them into white suburbs to open carry.

I have zero problem with this. I love talking guns with other gun people. They can hang out at my place and we’ll order pizza and talk about about various upgrades and accessories!

See, unlike you, I’m not afraid of seeing black guys with guns. You obviously think that’s something to fear.

The NRA was once strongly in favor of gun control because of black people open carrying.

You are an anomaly. The vast majority of your like-minded gun fetishists would freak out if this happened and you know it.

My distaste for open carry has nothing to do with skin color. This is America, not Somalia or Afghanistan. Stop trying to make us look like a lawless jurisdiction by arming legends in their own mind with weapons of mass destruction.

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never been an NRA member. I’m a JPFO, GOA and SAF member.

Go to the gun show in Chantilly sometime and you’ll see plenty of my “like minded gun fetishists” walking the show aisles right next to black guys doing the same exact thing. Gun culture doesn’t care what color you are.

That’s what’s keeping your tiny, hateful racist mind from processing it. You simply don’t understand your enemy. You only understand the cliches you parrot.


But we definitely understand you.

Ok, for starters, I'm a gun owner. I'm not a member of any of those radical neo-fascist organizations you seem proud of. I'm also secure enough as a man and a gun owner that I don't need a "gun culture" to celebrate.

I'm also a better American than you.

The bit about my "tiny racist mind" is amusing, though. Let's review: The cosplay clowns who walk around with their guns and are legends in their own mind are by and large rejects of the military or could never be employed by law enforcement. So, they like to go play at "militias." They are inherently tied to white supremacy groups. And, in my experience, those who say loudest "I'm not racist because some of my friends, er fellow gun owners, are black" are inherently racist because they lack any understanding of their white privilege and in fact actively resist recommendations that they examine it.

I'm sure you think you're a good person. But you're not. Anyone who would normalize open carrying of weapons in a peaceful society is garbage.

Sounds like Virginia really isn't for you. Maybe you should move to Mogadishu? I'm told beachfront property is cheap there.

The fact that you think Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership (JPFO) is “a radical neofascist organization” is proof of your clownshoe credentials.


I think you’re done here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should fund the distribution of AR-15s to black men and bus them into white suburbs to open carry.

I have zero problem with this. I love talking guns with other gun people. They can hang out at my place and we’ll order pizza and talk about about various upgrades and accessories!

See, unlike you, I’m not afraid of seeing black guys with guns. You obviously think that’s something to fear.

The NRA was once strongly in favor of gun control because of black people open carrying.

You are an anomaly. The vast majority of your like-minded gun fetishists would freak out if this happened and you know it.

My distaste for open carry has nothing to do with skin color. This is America, not Somalia or Afghanistan. Stop trying to make us look like a lawless jurisdiction by arming legends in their own mind with weapons of mass destruction.

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never been an NRA member. I’m a JPFO, GOA and SAF member.

Go to the gun show in Chantilly sometime and you’ll see plenty of my “like minded gun fetishists” walking the show aisles right next to black guys doing the same exact thing. Gun culture doesn’t care what color you are.

That’s what’s keeping your tiny, hateful racist mind from processing it. You simply don’t understand your enemy. You only understand the cliches you parrot.


But we definitely understand you.

Not even back in ~2016 when they re-examined their stance on fighting against gun bans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Welp, it looks like a bunch of people will be moving to MD or DC.

Congrats to the far right for installing a Trump wannabe as Governor.

Hmmm… let’s see. In VA the crime rate is lower and I can defend myself. In DC crime is skyrocketing, the police are non-existent, and I can’t defend myself. No, I think I’ll stay in VA.

Exactly. And move to MD?? Other than Larry Hogan, MD has absolutely nothing going for it. Which is why so many MDers come to VA for employment. Just wish they’d learn to drive first.[/quote]

Plenty of bad VA drivers. See them all the time in DC and MD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should fund the distribution of AR-15s to black men and bus them into white suburbs to open carry.

I have zero problem with this. I love talking guns with other gun people. They can hang out at my place and we’ll order pizza and talk about about various upgrades and accessories!

See, unlike you, I’m not afraid of seeing black guys with guns. You obviously think that’s something to fear.

The NRA was once strongly in favor of gun control because of black people open carrying.

You are an anomaly. The vast majority of your like-minded gun fetishists would freak out if this happened and you know it.

My distaste for open carry has nothing to do with skin color. This is America, not Somalia or Afghanistan. Stop trying to make us look like a lawless jurisdiction by arming legends in their own mind with weapons of mass destruction.

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never been an NRA member. I’m a JPFO, GOA and SAF member.

Go to the gun show in Chantilly sometime and you’ll see plenty of my “like minded gun fetishists” walking the show aisles right next to black guys doing the same exact thing. Gun culture doesn’t care what color you are.

That’s what’s keeping your tiny, hateful racist mind from processing it. You simply don’t understand your enemy. You only understand the cliches you parrot.


But we definitely understand you.

Ok, for starters, I'm a gun owner. I'm not a member of any of those radical neo-fascist organizations you seem proud of. I'm also secure enough as a man and a gun owner that I don't need a "gun culture" to celebrate.

I'm also a better American than you.

The bit about my "tiny racist mind" is amusing, though. Let's review: The cosplay clowns who walk around with their guns and are legends in their own mind are by and large rejects of the military or could never be employed by law enforcement. So, they like to go play at "militias." They are inherently tied to white supremacy groups. And, in my experience, those who say loudest "I'm not racist because some of my friends, er fellow gun owners, are black" are inherently racist because they lack any understanding of their white privilege and in fact actively resist recommendations that they examine it.

I'm sure you think you're a good person. But you're not. Anyone who would normalize open carrying of weapons in a peaceful society is garbage.

Sounds like Virginia really isn't for you. Maybe you should move to Mogadishu? I'm told beachfront property is cheap there.

Different poster, but you really do live in a fantasy of your own making, don't you? Other people fit so nicely into your judgmental, bigoted views.

You keep using that word. Don't make me go all Inigo Montoya on you. Not wanting to live in a community where people openly display weapons as part of day-to-day life is not "bigoted."

As for judgmental? Oh, yes, I completely judge chickenshits who have to strap on an AR-15 to walk through the grocery store or go to Starbucks. I mean, I also have openly mocked them to their face, too, so it's not like I snicker at them. The irony is palpable -- we all agree mentally ill people shouldn't have guns. But anyone who would do this has more than a few screws loose. Someone should absolutely come and confiscate their guns.

Mind you, I've no problem with seeing people walking around with rifles when I hunt. Because that's an appropriate time and place. But the person who's trying to provoke a reaction by prattle on about non-existent threats to 2A rights while standing around equipped for war in Old Town at the Farmer's Market? Yeah, I'm going to (and have) mocked that, harassed that and will judge that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should fund the distribution of AR-15s to black men and bus them into white suburbs to open carry.

I have zero problem with this. I love talking guns with other gun people. They can hang out at my place and we’ll order pizza and talk about about various upgrades and accessories!

See, unlike you, I’m not afraid of seeing black guys with guns. You obviously think that’s something to fear.

The NRA was once strongly in favor of gun control because of black people open carrying.

You are an anomaly. The vast majority of your like-minded gun fetishists would freak out if this happened and you know it.

My distaste for open carry has nothing to do with skin color. This is America, not Somalia or Afghanistan. Stop trying to make us look like a lawless jurisdiction by arming legends in their own mind with weapons of mass destruction.

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never been an NRA member. I’m a JPFO, GOA and SAF member.

Go to the gun show in Chantilly sometime and you’ll see plenty of my “like minded gun fetishists” walking the show aisles right next to black guys doing the same exact thing. Gun culture doesn’t care what color you are.

That’s what’s keeping your tiny, hateful racist mind from processing it. You simply don’t understand your enemy. You only understand the cliches you parrot.


But we definitely understand you.

Ok, for starters, I'm a gun owner. I'm not a member of any of those radical neo-fascist organizations you seem proud of. I'm also secure enough as a man and a gun owner that I don't need a "gun culture" to celebrate.

I'm also a better American than you.

The bit about my "tiny racist mind" is amusing, though. Let's review: The cosplay clowns who walk around with their guns and are legends in their own mind are by and large rejects of the military or could never be employed by law enforcement. So, they like to go play at "militias." They are inherently tied to white supremacy groups. And, in my experience, those who say loudest "I'm not racist because some of my friends, er fellow gun owners, are black" are inherently racist because they lack any understanding of their white privilege and in fact actively resist recommendations that they examine it.

I'm sure you think you're a good person. But you're not. Anyone who would normalize open carrying of weapons in a peaceful society is garbage.

Sounds like Virginia really isn't for you. Maybe you should move to Mogadishu? I'm told beachfront property is cheap there.

The fact that you think Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership (JPFO) is “a radical neofascist organization” is proof of your clownshoe credentials.


I think you’re done here.

Yes, I thing that Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership is a radical neofascist organization.

I'm sorry, was I supposed to think otherwise because the word Jews is in the title? What, did you think using the word Jews would somehow inoculate a group that believes gun control is always totalitarianism and genocide? That ties gun laws to Nazism? Or that says the Gun Control Act of 1968 as lifted "almost in its entirety from Nazi legislation?'

Yes, that's crazy radical. Who cares that it's Jews that think this. What a crazy idea that jews couldn't possibly have insane ideas. Wow.