I’m confused! Trans swimmers Lia Thomas and Iszac Henig went head-to-head in the pool

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait - we were promised a list of all the D1 trans athletes who are taking over women’s sports. Hundreds of them obviously. You didn’t lie about that? Or did you?

If there are so few trans women and yet of the few that there are, a disproportionate number are turning in top times in track and field and swimming, that just proves the point that they have a huge advantage. You don’t understand math, do you?

[Anonymous]

The NCAA just made it possible for anyone looking to swim on the women’s team to say, “I am a woman”. No tests. No sitting out. Nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The NCAA just made it possible for anyone looking to swim on the women’s team to say, “I am a woman”. No tests. No sitting out. Nothing.

It’s completely disgusting, misogynistic insanity from almost all-male decision makers who couldn’t care less about women’s sports.

[Anonymous]

The backlash against men invading women’s spaces is here and it will sweep out Democrats, as they deserve.

I would rather an anti-choice Republican than a pro-transgender Democrat. If I must choose, then I would rather women’s sports, bathrooms, changing rooms, scholarships, fellowships, funding for medical research, and all the areas set aside for women be safe from male encroachment. What good is the right to abortion when Democrats are allowing men to self-ID as “women” and pilfer the funds for women’s health that make safe abortions possible? Already, increasing amounts of the little spent on women’s health is being diverted to “women with prostates.” Disgusting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The backlash against men invading women’s spaces is here and it will sweep out Democrats, as they deserve.

I would rather an anti-choice Republican than a pro-transgender Democrat. If I must choose, then I would rather women’s sports, bathrooms, changing rooms, scholarships, fellowships, funding for medical research, and all the areas set aside for women be safe from male encroachment. What good is the right to abortion when Democrats are allowing men to self-ID as “women” and pilfer the funds for women’s health that make safe abortions possible? Already, increasing amounts of the little spent on women’s health is being diverted to “women with prostates.” Disgusting

Or not. That, above, is nuts.

What the ncaa did is just punt entirely on the issue. It doesn’t actually work to punt, because the schools actually have no way to follow and comply with rules that can differ sport by sport. Think small liberal arts college with a FtM trans athlete on their tennis team. What rules apply? How are they addressed? Just insane.

But - the NCAA is blowing up anyway and that’s the big story now. Huge debates will be ongoing as stacks are in the billions. So - ncaa was obviously thinking we are not going to deal with this issue given the foundational issue at stake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The backlash against men invading women’s spaces is here and it will sweep out Democrats, as they deserve.

I would rather an anti-choice Republican than a pro-transgender Democrat. If I must choose, then I would rather women’s sports, bathrooms, changing rooms, scholarships, fellowships, funding for medical research, and all the areas set aside for women be safe from male encroachment. What good is the right to abortion when Democrats are allowing men to self-ID as “women” and pilfer the funds for women’s health that make safe abortions possible? Already, increasing amounts of the little spent on women’s health is being diverted to “women with prostates.” Disgusting

Or not. That, above, is nuts.

What the ncaa did is just punt entirely on the issue. It doesn’t actually work to punt, because the schools actually have no way to follow and comply with rules that can differ sport by sport. Think small liberal arts college with a FtM trans athlete on their tennis team. What rules apply? How are they addressed? Just insane.

But - the NCAA is blowing up anyway and that’s the big story now. Huge debates will be ongoing as stacks are in the billions. So - ncaa was obviously thinking we are not going to deal with this issue given the foundational issue at stake.

You need your head checked if you don’t realize that colleges will use this policy as carte blanche to allow all sorts MTFs into women’s sports without even the absurdly inadequate bar of hormone therapy currently required. The trans agenda has thoroughly captured colleges alongside the misogyny that never left colleges’ male-dominated leadership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The backlash against men invading women’s spaces is here and it will sweep out Democrats, as they deserve.

I would rather an anti-choice Republican than a pro-transgender Democrat. If I must choose, then I would rather women’s sports, bathrooms, changing rooms, scholarships, fellowships, funding for medical research, and all the areas set aside for women be safe from male encroachment. What good is the right to abortion when Democrats are allowing men to self-ID as “women” and pilfer the funds for women’s health that make safe abortions possible? Already, increasing amounts of the little spent on women’s health is being diverted to “women with prostates.” Disgusting

Or not. That, above, is nuts.

What the ncaa did is just punt entirely on the issue. It doesn’t actually work to punt, because the schools actually have no way to follow and comply with rules that can differ sport by sport. Think small liberal arts college with a FtM trans athlete on their tennis team. What rules apply? How are they addressed? Just insane.

But - the NCAA is blowing up anyway and that’s the big story now. Huge debates will be ongoing as stacks are in the billions. So - ncaa was obviously thinking we are not going to deal with this issue given the foundational issue at stake.

It’s nuts that the few spaces and funds allocated to women should be safe from male exploitation? I see you have outsourced your thinking to transgender activists.

[Anonymous]

I know it’s terrible news for the anti-trans folks, but since there aren’t any, the NCAA has said we don’t care; we have bigger fish to fry. And then the NCAA imploded. Where it sits a year from now will be interesting to see.

Personally, I could see the Power5 starting an entirely new organization. They seem firm on not sharing with non-Power5 schools. What that means for restructuring current NCAA divisions will be interesting. Pull up a seat. Make some popcorn and watch. There’s a very good chance this will be the last NCAA basketball tournament ever where you could see a non-Power5 school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The news media likes to sensationalize stories like the trans-man competing on womens teams so I'm sure it wouldn't be sensationalized as much and we wouldn't hear about it, but are there any cases of a trans-man competing on men's teams? A trans-women deciding to forego hormones so she can remain and compete on a men's team?

The thing that seems to be pretty consistent with trans athletes is that seem to always compete against biological females. There is that Canadian soccer player, for example, that transitioned to male and still competes in the women’s national team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The news media likes to sensationalize stories like the trans-man competing on womens teams so I'm sure it wouldn't be sensationalized as much and we wouldn't hear about it, but are there any cases of a trans-man competing on men's teams? A trans-women deciding to forego hormones so she can remain and compete on a men's team?

The thing that seems to be pretty consistent with trans athletes is that seem to always compete against biological females. There is that Canadian soccer player, for example, that transitioned to male and still competes in the women’s national team.

Or not. Of the very very few trans athletes there are more FtM (consistent with the transition really).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The news media likes to sensationalize stories like the trans-man competing on womens teams so I'm sure it wouldn't be sensationalized as much and we wouldn't hear about it, but are there any cases of a trans-man competing on men's teams? A trans-women deciding to forego hormones so she can remain and compete on a men's team?

The thing that seems to be pretty consistent with trans athletes is that seem to always compete against biological females. There is that Canadian soccer player, for example, that transitioned to male and still competes in the women’s national team.

Exactly. Gee, I wonder why. No advantage, huh?

By the way, the media reported that the trans man had not yet started **testosterone.** That is a sneaky sleight of hand, however. There was no mention of whether the trans man has started estrogen blockers. If the trans man has started estrogen blockers, then that will change the ratio of hormones in the body and skew it towards a male ratio, with masculinizing effects, just as effectively as if they had taken testosterone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The news media likes to sensationalize stories like the trans-man competing on womens teams so I'm sure it wouldn't be sensationalized as much and we wouldn't hear about it, but are there any cases of a trans-man competing on men's teams? A trans-women deciding to forego hormones so she can remain and compete on a men's team?

The thing that seems to be pretty consistent with trans athletes is that seem to always compete against biological females. There is that Canadian soccer player, for example, that transitioned to male and still competes in the women’s national team.

Or not. Of the very very few trans athletes there are more FtM (consistent with the transition really).

Yes, and FtM compete in the female sports because biologically, they are at a disadvantage in the men's division. So in the sports world: MtF= female and FtM = female. Makes perfect sense right?

[Anonymous]

Seems as if one swimmer believes that Thomas "threw" his competition as some kind of "proof" that he can be defeated by a bio woman.....

A biological female member of the University of Pennsylvania women’s swimming team said she believes her transgender teammate Lia Thomas colluded with a Yale transgender athlete so she could lose to prove a point, according to a report.

Yalie Iszac Henig, who is transitioning from female to male, beat Thomas in both the women’s 100- and 400-yard freestyle races during an Ivy League swim meet on Jan. 8.

Her biological female teammate told OutKick on condition of anonymity that she believes Thomas and Henig hatched a plan during the recent meet.

“Looking at [Lia’s] time, I don’t think she was trying,” she told the outlet. “I know they’re friends and I know they were talking before the meet. I think she let her win to prove the point that, ‘Oh see, a female-to-male beat me.’”

When asked if she believed the pair colluded, the swimmer said: “I do. I can’t say for sure, but I wouldn’t be shocked if I found out that was 100 percent true.”

Henig won the 100 freestyle race with a time of 49.57 seconds. Thomas touched the wall in 52.84 seconds – though she swam the 100 freestyle in 49.42 seconds during a November tri-meet with Princeton and Cornell, OutKick reported.

The anonymous swimmer also believes Thomas wasn’t giving her all in the 200-yard freestyle, which she won with a time of 1:48.73.

“I was on deck and said to a friend, ‘She’s literally not trying.’ You could just tell,” she told OutKick. “It was blatantly obvious. I was watching the 200 free and she was literally keeping pace with the other girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems as if one swimmer believes that Thomas "threw" his competition as some kind of "proof" that he can be defeated by a bio woman.....

A biological female member of the University of Pennsylvania women’s swimming team said she believes her transgender teammate Lia Thomas colluded with a Yale transgender athlete so she could lose to prove a point, according to a report.

Yalie Iszac Henig, who is transitioning from female to male, beat Thomas in both the women’s 100- and 400-yard freestyle races during an Ivy League swim meet on Jan. 8.

Her biological female teammate told OutKick on condition of anonymity that she believes Thomas and Henig hatched a plan during the recent meet.

“Looking at [Lia’s] time, I don’t think she was trying,” she told the outlet. “I know they’re friends and I know they were talking before the meet. I think she let her win to prove the point that, ‘Oh see, a female-to-male beat me.’”

When asked if she believed the pair colluded, the swimmer said: “I do. I can’t say for sure, but I wouldn’t be shocked if I found out that was 100 percent true.”

Henig won the 100 freestyle race with a time of 49.57 seconds. Thomas touched the wall in 52.84 seconds – though she swam the 100 freestyle in 49.42 seconds during a November tri-meet with Princeton and Cornell, OutKick reported.

The anonymous swimmer also believes Thomas wasn’t giving her all in the 200-yard freestyle, which she won with a time of 1:48.73.

“I was on deck and said to a friend, ‘She’s literally not trying.’ You could just tell,” she told OutKick. “It was blatantly obvious. I was watching the 200 free and she was literally keeping pace with the other girls.

I believe this 100%.

Look at Lia Thomas’s times over the season versus Thomas’s times at that event. It is really obvious she held back. The same thing happened when the three girls sued Connecticut for letting males who weren’t even on hormones race against them in girls’ track and field. After YEARS of complete domination in which they never lost a race to any of the girls suing, one of the male runners suddenly “lost” to one of the female plaintiffs as soon as the lawsuit was filed. The timing of that “loss” and the fact that he ran his worst time in that loss was very interesting. It’s really obvious that these trans athletes lose on purpose in order to weaken the otherwise strong case that they have an unfair advantage. It is very sneaky and dishonest.

[Anonymous]

Here’s an article detailing how the Connecticut transgender athlete coveniently “lost” to one of the female plaintiffs just TWO days after the female athlete filed suit. But it’s transphobic to suggest transgender people are every bit as capable of anyone else of being grifters gaming the system to enjoy an unfair advantage, right?

https://www.fox61.com/amp/article/news/local/transgender-athlete-loses-track-race-lawsuit-ciac-high-school-sports/520-df66c6f5-5ca9-496b-a6ba-61c828655bc6