This Is Us final season

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Anonymous wrote:Ok… was on spring break and just watched it. Wow. This episode was so sad. Watching the break down of a marriage was truly heartbreaking. I’m a little surprised by the anti-Kate sentiment here, on one hand she’s not blameless, but honestly I get the impression she’s just not in love with Toby anymore and that’s why the marriage ended. In the other hand, I feel Hailey is like this lost child in this all: Toby wasn’t connecting with Jack, let’s adopt another kid!!! Brilliant! Although it’s unsavory, I’m sure we all know people who’ve had kids, biologically or otherwise, whose relationships weren’t exactly stable. It’s very realistic.

All of the big 3 are flawed human beings, I just hate how important it is for a woman to be “likable” to be related to.

Did anyone notice that Chrissy Metz called Toby “Chris” at one point or was that just me?

I disagree Kate and Phillip don’t have chemistry, although I would have liked to seen more of the build-up to that first date. Maybe that’s to come. Phillip’s story of his first wife was a kick in the stomach. Yes, if I were to meet them out I’d probably think they were a bit of an attractiveness mismatch, but we had the beauty (female) and the beast (male) b.s. shoved down our throats so long, I’m ok with this.

I really hope we get the Kate/Sophie friendship reconnection story played out.

So it’s gotta be Sophie, right? I’m a Cassidy fan but if she stays in the picture as a close friend and business colleague I’m cool with that. I just don’t particularly like the Sophie actress. In anything she’s done.

Chris Sullivan blew me away in this episode. This episode was the payoff of a long-alluded to issue that Toby felt alienated in the Pearson family (remember that one episode where Beth, Toby and Miguel went to a bar and talked about how much they felt like outsiders sometimes?) and was very cognizant of the lingering effects of Jack on his wife. The writers laid the groundwork for this divorce almost as soon as they got together in season one.

This is the problem with the story IMO. I would have rather had her fall in love with Phillip first and leave Toby for him. If she didn't love him anymore, fine. But it seemed like she was doing everything she could to blame Toby for the breakdown of the marriage (you moved, you lost weight, you're a bad dad, which he wasn't). He was doing everything he could to save their marriage, including moving back to work a crap job for her so that she could work a job that paid nothing. And all she could do was nitpick. People don't like her because she's a whiny PITA who can't take responsibility for anything and she's always been that way. And of course she jumped right into another relationship--she has always needed a man to take care of her--Jack, then that awful boyfriend, then Randall, then Kevin, then Toby, now Phillip. She literally cannot stand on her own as a 43 year old woman. Despite the fact that if she could have just gotten her act together, Rebecca would have gladly done whatever she had to in order for Kate to succeed. And she treated Rebecca like crap for so many years. She's just a shit person. Her weight has nothing to do with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow so many DCUM ladies triggered by Kate. I’m guessing they see parts of her personality and relationship with Toby in themselves.

No the character is just annoying now. It kinda ruins the show because her and Phillip have zero chemistry and Toby is just trying to provide and she can’t stop playing the victim card over and over again. The divorce just feels shoehorned in at the last minute.

Toby and Kate had a reason to get together, at least, with the weight loss being the catalyst. Kate and Phillip getting together is just out of the blue and unrealistic.

I live in Los Angeles with a neurotypical child and one with special needs and I found it very unrealistic that she was unwilling to move to San Francisco with Toby. She would not be able to live in that house and only work part-time as a teacher’s aide without a substantial second income. She was being selfish, plain and simple. It was completely unrealistic that Toby could take job paying much less and then afford two houses even if Kate took a full time job. Teachers don’t make that much at these schools.

Agree, and she's not a certified teacher, so making a small salary. Does she even have a college degree?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok… was on spring break and just watched it. Wow. This episode was so sad. Watching the break down of a marriage was truly heartbreaking. I’m a little surprised by the anti-Kate sentiment here, on one hand she’s not blameless, but honestly I get the impression she’s just not in love with Toby anymore and that’s why the marriage ended. In the other hand, I feel Hailey is like this lost child in this all: Toby wasn’t connecting with Jack, let’s adopt another kid!!! Brilliant! Although it’s unsavory, I’m sure we all know people who’ve had kids, biologically or otherwise, whose relationships weren’t exactly stable. It’s very realistic.

All of the big 3 are flawed human beings, I just hate how important it is for a woman to be “likable” to be related to.

Did anyone notice that Chrissy Metz called Toby “Chris” at one point or was that just me?

I disagree Kate and Phillip don’t have chemistry, although I would have liked to seen more of the build-up to that first date. Maybe that’s to come. Phillip’s story of his first wife was a kick in the stomach. Yes, if I were to meet them out I’d probably think they were a bit of an attractiveness mismatch, but we had the beauty (female) and the beast (male) b.s. shoved down our throats so long, I’m ok with this.

I really hope we get the Kate/Sophie friendship reconnection story played out.

So it’s gotta be Sophie, right? I’m a Cassidy fan but if she stays in the picture as a close friend and business colleague I’m cool with that. I just don’t particularly like the Sophie actress. In anything she’s done.

Chris Sullivan blew me away in this episode. This episode was the payoff of a long-alluded to issue that Toby felt alienated in the Pearson family (remember that one episode where Beth, Toby and Miguel went to a bar and talked about how much they felt like outsiders sometimes?) and was very cognizant of the lingering effects of Jack on his wife. The writers laid the groundwork for this divorce almost as soon as they got together in season one.

This is the problem with the story IMO. I would have rather had her fall in love with Phillip first and leave Toby for him. If she didn't love him anymore, fine. But it seemed like she was doing everything she could to blame Toby for the breakdown of the marriage (you moved, you lost weight, you're a bad dad, which he wasn't). He was doing everything he could to save their marriage, including moving back to work a crap job for her so that she could work a job that paid nothing. And all she could do was nitpick. People don't like her because she's a whiny PITA who can't take responsibility for anything and she's always been that way. And of course she jumped right into another relationship--she has always needed a man to take care of her--Jack, then that awful boyfriend, then Randall, then Kevin, then Toby, now Phillip. She literally cannot stand on her own as a 43 year old woman. Despite the fact that if she could have just gotten her act together, Rebecca would have gladly done whatever she had to in order for Kate to succeed. And she treated Rebecca like crap for so many years. She's just a shit person. Her weight has nothing to do with it.

Yes, all of this.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow so many DCUM ladies triggered by Kate. I’m guessing they see parts of her personality and relationship with Toby in themselves.

No the character is just annoying now. It kinda ruins the show because her and Phillip have zero chemistry and Toby is just trying to provide and she can’t stop playing the victim card over and over again. The divorce just feels shoehorned in at the last minute.

Toby and Kate had a reason to get together, at least, with the weight loss being the catalyst. Kate and Phillip getting together is just out of the blue and unrealistic.

I live in Los Angeles with a neurotypical child and one with special needs and I found it very unrealistic that she was unwilling to move to San Francisco with Toby. She would not be able to live in that house and only work part-time as a teacher’s aide without a substantial second income. She was being selfish, plain and simple. It was completely unrealistic that Toby could take job paying much less and then afford two houses even if Kate took a full time job. Teachers don’t make that much at these schools.

I thought the most unrealistic part was that Toby after months in a great position in San Francisco couldn’t find another similar job in LA. It’s LA, not Akron.

I don’t think it was just the money. The job fulfilled him on a personal level.

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I finally watched the episode today. As others have said, Kate would constantly criticize Toby for the way he parented the children. Toby would try to make improvements. But what about Kate? She would break down when Toby criticized her. She would never try to make improvements to her own life. She acted as if she didn't think she need to make any improvements/do anything to save the marriage. It was all on Toby to make the changes.

Her character really did get worse as the show went on. There was no personal growth from her at all.

And Philip - yeah, we needed to see more back story as to what ignited that spark with Kate. From what I remember of his personality in previous seasons, he was kind of a jerk. But to now have him love Kate? Doesn't ring true at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow so many DCUM ladies triggered by Kate. I’m guessing they see parts of her personality and relationship with Toby in themselves.

No the character is just annoying now. It kinda ruins the show because her and Phillip have zero chemistry and Toby is just trying to provide and she can’t stop playing the victim card over and over again. The divorce just feels shoehorned in at the last minute.

Toby and Kate had a reason to get together, at least, with the weight loss being the catalyst. Kate and Phillip getting together is just out of the blue and unrealistic.

I live in Los Angeles with a neurotypical child and one with special needs and I found it very unrealistic that she was unwilling to move to San Francisco with Toby. She would not be able to live in that house and only work part-time as a teacher’s aide without a substantial second income. She was being selfish, plain and simple. It was completely unrealistic that Toby could take job paying much less and then afford two houses even if Kate took a full time job. Teachers don’t make that much at these schools.

I thought the most unrealistic part was that Toby after months in a great position in San Francisco couldn’t find another similar job in LA. It’s LA, not Akron.

I don’t think it was just the money. The job fulfilled him on a personal level.

Do you know anything about the job market right now? He can find another job that pays more AND fulfills him on a personal level if he was that successful in such a short time in his last company.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow so many DCUM ladies triggered by Kate. I’m guessing they see parts of her personality and relationship with Toby in themselves.

No the character is just annoying now. It kinda ruins the show because her and Phillip have zero chemistry and Toby is just trying to provide and she can’t stop playing the victim card over and over again. The divorce just feels shoehorned in at the last minute.

Toby and Kate had a reason to get together, at least, with the weight loss being the catalyst. Kate and Phillip getting together is just out of the blue and unrealistic.

I live in Los Angeles with a neurotypical child and one with special needs and I found it very unrealistic that she was unwilling to move to San Francisco with Toby. She would not be able to live in that house and only work part-time as a teacher’s aide without a substantial second income. She was being selfish, plain and simple. It was completely unrealistic that Toby could take job paying much less and then afford two houses even if Kate took a full time job. Teachers don’t make that much at these schools.

I thought the most unrealistic part was that Toby after months in a great position in San Francisco couldn’t find another similar job in LA. It’s LA, not Akron.

I don’t think it was just the money. The job fulfilled him on a personal level.

Do you know anything about the job market right now? He can find another job that pays more AND fulfills him on a personal level if he was that successful in such a short time in his last company.

To be fair, it’s a tv show…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow so many DCUM ladies triggered by Kate. I’m guessing they see parts of her personality and relationship with Toby in themselves.

No the character is just annoying now. It kinda ruins the show because her and Phillip have zero chemistry and Toby is just trying to provide and she can’t stop playing the victim card over and over again. The divorce just feels shoehorned in at the last minute.

Toby and Kate had a reason to get together, at least, with the weight loss being the catalyst. Kate and Phillip getting together is just out of the blue and unrealistic.

I live in Los Angeles with a neurotypical child and one with special needs and I found it very unrealistic that she was unwilling to move to San Francisco with Toby. She would not be able to live in that house and only work part-time as a teacher’s aide without a substantial second income. She was being selfish, plain and simple. It was completely unrealistic that Toby could take job paying much less and then afford two houses even if Kate took a full time job. Teachers don’t make that much at these schools.

I thought the most unrealistic part was that Toby after months in a great position in San Francisco couldn’t find another similar job in LA. It’s LA, not Akron.

I don’t think it was just the money. The job fulfilled him on a personal level.

Do you know anything about the job market right now? He can find another job that pays more AND fulfills him on a personal level if he was that successful in such a short time in his last company.

To be fair, it’s a tv show…

Yes, I’m aware. In my opinion that part of the TV show was badly written and does not reflect the current reality, in a TV show that largely does try to do that.

[Anonymous]

Kate is nit THAT bad, imo

[Anonymous]

ok, they've addressed Kevin's alcoholism, Rebecca's alzheimers, Little Jack's vision - WHEN are they going to address Kate's obesity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ok, they've addressed Kevin's alcoholism, Rebecca's alzheimers, Little Jack's vision - WHEN are they going to address Kate's obesity?

The whole first season was about Kate’s obesity.

[Anonymous]

New prediction. Kevin is "filling in" for Jack at the end of Rebecca's life, hence the ring. You can see the seeds of this in the wedding photo -- I bet Rebecca insisted Kevin ("Jack") stand next to her, which is why he isn't with his own kids and Miguel is off to the side looking peeved.

Rebecca will die in the penultimate episode and the final episode will be the aftermath. Kevin & Sophie will reconnect there - she'll be divorced or widowed - and it'll be clear they'll end up together. But only after he's spent a long time single and taking care of his kids and himself alone.

The ending everybody wants and nobody sees coming.

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Anonymous wrote:New prediction. Kevin is "filling in" for Jack at the end of Rebecca's life, hence the ring. You can see the seeds of this in the wedding photo -- I bet Rebecca insisted Kevin ("Jack") stand next to her, which is why he isn't with his own kids and Miguel is off to the side looking peeved.

Rebecca will die in the penultimate episode and the final episode will be the aftermath. Kevin & Sophie will reconnect there - she'll be divorced or widowed - and it'll be clear they'll end up together. But only after he's spent a long time single and taking care of his kids and himself alone.

The ending everybody wants and nobody sees coming.

STOP! Please make it stop! This is not a thing!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow so many DCUM ladies triggered by Kate. I’m guessing they see parts of her personality and relationship with Toby in themselves.

No the character is just annoying now. It kinda ruins the show because her and Phillip have zero chemistry and Toby is just trying to provide and she can’t stop playing the victim card over and over again. The divorce just feels shoehorned in at the last minute.

Toby and Kate had a reason to get together, at least, with the weight loss being the catalyst. Kate and Phillip getting together is just out of the blue and unrealistic.

I live in Los Angeles with a neurotypical child and one with special needs and I found it very unrealistic that she was unwilling to move to San Francisco with Toby. She would not be able to live in that house and only work part-time as a teacher’s aide without a substantial second income. She was being selfish, plain and simple. It was completely unrealistic that Toby could take job paying much less and then afford two houses even if Kate took a full time job. Teachers don’t make that much at these schools.

Agree, and she's not a certified teacher, so making a small salary. Does she even have a college degree?

That’s right—she was waiting tables instead of going to college.

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Anonymous wrote:New prediction. Kevin is "filling in" for Jack at the end of Rebecca's life, hence the ring. You can see the seeds of this in the wedding photo -- I bet Rebecca insisted Kevin ("Jack") stand next to her, which is why he isn't with his own kids and Miguel is off to the side looking peeved.

Rebecca will die in the penultimate episode and the final episode will be the aftermath. Kevin & Sophie will reconnect there - she'll be divorced or widowed - and it'll be clear they'll end up together. But only after he's spent a long time single and taking care of his kids and himself alone.

The ending everybody wants and nobody sees coming.

STOP! Please make it stop! This is not a thing!

This isn't a sexual thing. It's confusion and regression of memory to an earlier age. I don't know why you're so disturbed by it. This is part of the tragedy of Alzheimer's.