Gaza War, Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Israeli flag being raised at captured Hamas structure. It is only temporary—Israel wants nothing to do with the place. Who would?

Captured Hamas structure = pile of dead Palestinian children.

No. Hamas is a heavily militarized death cult.

Yet, Israel does all the killing.

Even if we were operating under the barbaric an eye for an eye, Israel has slaughtered twice as many more children and babies than the total number killed by Hamas.

How many more do they need to feel avenged? Will Israel not stop until every man, woman and child in Gaza is dead? I wonder how long they’ve planned this genocide.

Again, this War will cost Dems the presidency. Trump is out but Biden has already lost.

Agreed. Biden’s press office had to issue a correction when he spread the fake propaganda about beheaded babies on 10/7. As if that wasn’t bad enough, since then, he’s said he doesn’t believe the death toll in Gaza.

“I have no confidence in the numbers the Palestinians are using.”

That clip is going to play over and over again during campaign. His legacy is going to be a genocide denier.

No, he’s a genocide enabler. I will never vote for him

You do you, but um, the alternative is much much worse. You can disenfranchise yourself if you want of course. Personally I look at elections as a choice between different versions of reality, and pick the least bad one.

I can’t stomach genocide. I also cannot align myself with people who openly support it . It’s my red line so will vote third party. Hopefully Ds will separate themselves from ethnic cleansing. Shouldn’t be that hard of an ask

There is a difference between killing people in a war and "genocide". It doesn't matter how many times you say the word; it is simply not what is happening here.
Do you understand what war is? And what happens during war? Do you understand that wars have been raging all over the world your entire life? Wars involve blackouts, hunger, thirst, buildings turned to rubble, dead children. It is hell and it's been happening somewhere since the day you were born and for thousands of years before that.

It seems like we have a lot of people who've lived in la-la-land, then saw some TikTok videos about this conflict, learned the word "genocide" and have run with it, barking all over the Internet for weeks.

Lol how the heck is this a WAR? This is a one sided conflict with one side getting 3 billion dollars every year in military aid from the U.S. and the other side throwing random pathetic rockets which seldom land anywhere. A war is between two militaries, two armies, two countries! This is not a war! This is one country trying to kill an entire population because they believe they have the God given right to do so.

You suggest Israel responds with an invasion to behead Palestinian babies, rape their women, and kidnap elderly? Would this be fair in your eyes?

Israeli babies weren’t beheaded. If it was true, it wouldn’t have been walked back by the White House.

Rape isn’t confirmed either. We haven’t heard any stories from any Israeli woman that she was raped by Hamas

Suddenly you’re concerned with verifying facts?

That’s rich.

Facts should always come before emotion. Biden said women were raped before IDF said it.

There is lots of misinformation about Oct 7 namely beheading babies and the mass rape of many Israeli women. None of these things are confirmed but according to the IDF, it’s “presumed” to have happened

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/what-we-know-about-three-widespread-israel-hamas-war-claims/

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You didn’t even understand the point.

You’re a dreadful failure as a propagandist.

How am I a propagandist if I’m anti Hamas? I’ve been hand wringing about getting to the tunnels or destroying the tunnels all throughout the threads. Hamas is not in Gaza. They are outside of Gaza in the tunnels.

Israel knows where they are but are killing civilians because of revenge which I get but the response is way past getting even at this point. Israel already won the kill Olympics so I don’t understand why continue the siege on Gaza when Hamas is still shooting rockets into Israel proving nothing is really Getting done unless these tunnels get handled

Outside of Gaza, where? In Israel? In Egypt?

They are outside where rockets can be launched not inside buildings. But that doesn’t stop Israel from crushing babies and women and kids to death in these buildings and creating more Hamas .

Actually yes. They are in Israel according to the hostages. They recognized some of the terrorists as part of a work permit program and some
Spoke Hebrew. They are everywhere in Egypt and in the West Bank as well as Syria and Lebanon and Qatar. They are more spread out then the IDF. Now what is bombing buildings and homes in Gaza going to do to root out Hamas? It creates more Hamas

Since, you are into fact-checking, Palestinians lied about hospital bombing to make Israel look bad. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-fakes-surrounding-the-gaza-hospital-blast/a-67154393

Based on that, they probably routinely lie about the rest of the bombings and causalities, so you can calm down a bit.

Also, if you are right about the Russians training Hamas, then Hamas learned to blame the other side for their, Hamas, was crimes and atrocities. Fight Hamas, not Israel.

Palestinians hacked Hananya Naftali’s Twitter account, and the IDF Arabic Facebook account? Both claimed responsibility for bombing the hospital.

If Israel is certain they didn’t bomb the hospital after warning them about an imminent bombing for days, let a team of neutral foreign chemical explosive specialists come to Gaza and test whether the chemicals on the scene resemble IDF or Palestinian bombs . Will Israel allow this ?

Dear genius,

Hamas refused to turn over any parts of the explosive for independent analysis.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67216929

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… but managed to produce a wealth of doctored pics https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207173798/fake-accounts-old-videos-and-rumors-fuel-chaos-around-gaza-hospital-explosion

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to fathom how anyone at this point is still nitpicking over the extent of Hamas’ barbaric attacks.

Because Israel’s barbaric attacks are a million times worse. No Israel has no excuse to act like animals and no this is not self defense. Mindless bombing is not getting rid of Hamas. It is creating a bigger following for Hamas. Just like how ISIS was created because the U.S. could not mind its own business and invaded Iraq. Have you seen the way the Israelis government is talking about killing Palestinians. They have no remorse. Hamas is a terrorist organization but what does that make Israel? What Israel is doing is outright cold blooded murder of innocent Palestinians. First these Zionists take their land, rob them of their humanity, confine them to a narrow strip of land, imprison their innocent men and when the occupied become extremists and fight back, these Zionists scream anti semitism. Thank God for sane voices such as Jewish voice for peace who see things for what they are and refuse to make excuses for Israel’s genocide campaign.

Yes, this is self defense.

Yes, this is killing Hamas fighters.

No, this is not genocide.

The reason the Palestinians don’t have a state is because THEY rejected the two state solution in 1948 (and many times since) and tried to destroy Israel.

FFS.

LOL they have been carpet bombing Gaza for the past 22 days and apparently have only killed a few Hamas fighters but have successfully killed 7000 civilians. Gosh they really suck at their job. Keep stating your lies but I can guarantee you repeatedly stating these statements will not make them true. A lie is a lie is a lie.

You are making things up.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to fathom how anyone at this point is still nitpicking over the extent of Hamas’ barbaric attacks.

Because Israel’s barbaric attacks are a million times worse. No Israel has no excuse to act like animals and no this is not self defense. Mindless bombing is not getting rid of Hamas. It is creating a bigger following for Hamas. Just like how ISIS was created because the U.S. could not mind its own business and invaded Iraq. Have you seen the way the Israelis government is talking about killing Palestinians. They have no remorse. Hamas is a terrorist organization but what does that make Israel? What Israel is doing is outright cold blooded murder of innocent Palestinians. First these Zionists take their land, rob them of their humanity, confine them to a narrow strip of land, imprison their innocent men and when the occupied become extremists and fight back, these Zionists scream anti semitism. Thank God for sane voices such as Jewish voice for peace who see things for what they are and refuse to make excuses for Israel’s genocide campaign.

Yes, this is self defense.

Yes, this is killing Hamas fighters.

No, this is not genocide.

The reason the Palestinians don’t have a state is because THEY rejected the two state solution in 1948 (and many times since) and tried to destroy Israel.

FFS.

How is indiscriminate bombing of two million very young and poor Palestinians not genocide?

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to fathom how anyone at this point is still nitpicking over the extent of Hamas’ barbaric attacks.

Because Israel’s barbaric attacks are a million times worse. No Israel has no excuse to act like animals and no this is not self defense. Mindless bombing is not getting rid of Hamas. It is creating a bigger following for Hamas. Just like how ISIS was created because the U.S. could not mind its own business and invaded Iraq. Have you seen the way the Israelis government is talking about killing Palestinians. They have no remorse. Hamas is a terrorist organization but what does that make Israel? What Israel is doing is outright cold blooded murder of innocent Palestinians. First these Zionists take their land, rob them of their humanity, confine them to a narrow strip of land, imprison their innocent men and when the occupied become extremists and fight back, these Zionists scream anti semitism. Thank God for sane voices such as Jewish voice for peace who see things for what they are and refuse to make excuses for Israel’s genocide campaign.

Yes, this is self defense.

Yes, this is killing Hamas fighters.

No, this is not genocide.

The reason the Palestinians don’t have a state is because THEY rejected the two state solution in 1948 (and many times since) and tried to destroy Israel.

FFS.

LOL they have been carpet bombing Gaza for the past 22 days and apparently have only killed a few Hamas fighters but have successfully killed 7000 civilians. Gosh they really suck at their job. Keep stating your lies but I can guarantee you repeatedly stating these statements will not make them true. A lie is a lie is a lie.

Funny, you didn’t actually point out any lies.

You admitted that Israel is killing Hamas fighters, as I said.

You didn’t address any of my other points.

So, who’s lying?

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Anonymous wrote:Israeli flag being raised at captured Hamas structure. It is only temporary—Israel wants nothing to do with the place. Who would?

Captured Hamas structure = pile of dead Palestinian children.

No. Hamas is a heavily militarized death cult.

Yet, Israel does all the killing.

Even if we were operating under the barbaric an eye for an eye, Israel has slaughtered twice as many more children and babies than the total number killed by Hamas.

How many more do they need to feel avenged? Will Israel not stop until every man, woman and child in Gaza is dead? I wonder how long they’ve planned this genocide.

Again, this War will cost Dems the presidency. Trump is out but Biden has already lost.

Agreed. Biden’s press office had to issue a correction when he spread the fake propaganda about beheaded babies on 10/7. As if that wasn’t bad enough, since then, he’s said he doesn’t believe the death toll in Gaza.

“I have no confidence in the numbers the Palestinians are using.”

That clip is going to play over and over again during campaign. His legacy is going to be a genocide denier.

No, he’s a genocide enabler. I will never vote for him

You do you, but um, the alternative is much much worse. You can disenfranchise yourself if you want of course. Personally I look at elections as a choice between different versions of reality, and pick the least bad one.

I can’t stomach genocide. I also cannot align myself with people who openly support it . It’s my red line so will vote third party. Hopefully Ds will separate themselves from ethnic cleansing. Shouldn’t be that hard of an ask

There is a difference between killing people in a war and "genocide". It doesn't matter how many times you say the word; it is simply not what is happening here.
Do you understand what war is? And what happens during war? Do you understand that wars have been raging all over the world your entire life? Wars involve blackouts, hunger, thirst, buildings turned to rubble, dead children. It is hell and it's been happening somewhere since the day you were born and for thousands of years before that.

It seems like we have a lot of people who've lived in la-la-land, then saw some TikTok videos about this conflict, learned the word "genocide" and have run with it, barking all over the Internet for weeks.

Lol how the heck is this a WAR? This is a one sided conflict with one side getting 3 billion dollars every year in military aid from the U.S. and the other side throwing random pathetic rockets which seldom land anywhere. A war is between two militaries, two armies, two countries! This is not a war! This is one country trying to kill an entire population because they believe they have the God given right to do so.

You suggest Israel responds with an invasion to behead Palestinian babies, rape their women, and kidnap elderly? Would this be fair in your eyes?

Israeli babies weren’t beheaded. If it was true, it wouldn’t have been walked back by the White House.

Rape isn’t confirmed either. We haven’t heard any stories from any Israeli woman that she was raped by Hamas

Suddenly you’re concerned with verifying facts?

That’s rich.

Facts should always come before emotion. Biden said women were raped before IDF said it.

There is lots of misinformation about Oct 7 namely beheading babies and the mass rape of many Israeli women. None of these things are confirmed but according to the IDF, it’s “presumed” to have happened

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/what-we-know-about-three-widespread-israel-hamas-war-claims/

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You didn’t even understand the point.

You’re a dreadful failure as a propagandist.

How am I a propagandist if I’m anti Hamas? I’ve been hand wringing about getting to the tunnels or destroying the tunnels all throughout the threads. Hamas is not in Gaza. They are outside of Gaza in the tunnels.

Israel knows where they are but are killing civilians because of revenge which I get but the response is way past getting even at this point. Israel already won the kill Olympics so I don’t understand why continue the siege on Gaza when Hamas is still shooting rockets into Israel proving nothing is really Getting done unless these tunnels get handled

Outside of Gaza, where? In Israel? In Egypt?

They are outside where rockets can be launched not inside buildings. But that doesn’t stop Israel from crushing babies and women and kids to death in these buildings and creating more Hamas .

Actually yes. They are in Israel according to the hostages. They recognized some of the terrorists as part of a work permit program and some
Spoke Hebrew. They are everywhere in Egypt and in the West Bank as well as Syria and Lebanon and Qatar. They are more spread out then the IDF. Now what is bombing buildings and homes in Gaza going to do to root out Hamas? It creates more Hamas

Since, you are into fact-checking, Palestinians lied about hospital bombing to make Israel look bad. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-fakes-surrounding-the-gaza-hospital-blast/a-67154393

Based on that, they probably routinely lie about the rest of the bombings and causalities, so you can calm down a bit.

Also, if you are right about the Russians training Hamas, then Hamas learned to blame the other side for their, Hamas, was crimes and atrocities. Fight Hamas, not Israel.

Palestinians hacked Hananya Naftali’s Twitter account, and the IDF Arabic Facebook account? Both claimed responsibility for bombing the hospital.

If Israel is certain they didn’t bomb the hospital after warning them about an imminent bombing for days, let a team of neutral foreign chemical explosive specialists come to Gaza and test whether the chemicals on the scene resemble IDF or Palestinian bombs . Will Israel allow this ?

Dear genius,

Hamas refused to turn over any parts of the explosive for independent analysis.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67216929

Posting a link to BBC and then making a false statement doesn’t help your cause. That is another thing I have noted from these Pro Israeli hard core Zionists. They will state a lie and then post a link but when you actually read the article in the link, nothing in the article supports their statement. It’s hilarious but also really sad to see the extent they will go to to justify their lies.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all so heart breaking. The Palestinians have been cut off from the world. They have no electricity and internet. They are sitting there in darkness and getting bombed. This is GENOCIDE no matter what you say. Half the Palestinian population is under 18. Do you guys have no shame? Do you guys not fear your God? Do you think your God will be in favor of taking the lives of these innocent children?

This in insanity. This mindless bombing is not killing Hamas. It is creating more Hamas members by killing people’s entire families and making them harbor even more resentment towards their occupiers. Netanyahu couldn’t care less about getting Hamas. Hamas actually helps his agenda. Pretty sure he willfully ignored the signs of an imminent Hamas attack because it gave him the perfect excuse to go in and annihilate the Palestinian population. There is no way the IDF and Mossad did not know what was coming with all their intelligence and support from the U.S. The IDF just wants to kill all Palestinians and the world is just watching as this genocide is taking place. What a sad world to raise our kids in.

This is not genocide.

This is not mindless bombing.

This is killing Hamas.

The IDF does not just want to kill Palestinians.

Your conspiracy theory is wrong.

In short, everything you wrote is factually incorrect.

Ok IDF propaganda machine. This is GENOCIDE. It is mindless bombing when apartment buildings have turned into rubble and people are moving concrete with their bare hands to pull dead kids out. I don’t know how you can in your conscience justify this barbaric behavior.

Sadly this isn’t a video game where Israel is bombing to get the bad guys. This is real life and almost 3000 Palestinians children have died and many more have been orphaned. Where is Hamas? If Hamas is in tunnels what will bombing apartment buildings so when the tunnels are intact??! Is the plan to turn all of Gaza into rubble?! Then just say it out loud instead of telling Palestinians to run south and then start bombing the south, telling them to shelter in safe places and then bomb those exact safe places. This is really psychotic behavior.

It’s sickening how they are just playing with Palestinian lives. Meanwhile the Israeli youth is mocking the plight of the Palestinians and making fun of them on their tiktok videos. How cruel can one be??!

Hamas are the villains who made this happen. Stop supporting terrorists who attack Israeli civilians and then hide behind Palestinian civilians.

Hamas were trained by Russian mercenary terrorists as souring wanted to divert Workd attention from his illegal war.

What Hamas terrorists did to innocent Israelis was horrific but this does not justify the war crimes being visited upon so many innocent two million mostly young and poor Palestinians.

Israel is not only behaving in barbaric indiscriminate way by continuing to bomb Gaza but is radicalizing many Muslims against Israel. They are making Israel’s position in the Middle East much less safe and stable. This response a lose-lose way to deal with Hamas terrorists.

“Radicalizing many Muslims against Israel?”

As opposed to all the love that Muslims have shown to Israel since 1948?

You’re joking, right?

That is your response to war crimes not being justified ?

Obviously 79 years of ongoing tensions and occasional wars has created a tinder box ready to explode: Israel’s indiscriminate response to innocent Palestinians is obviously going to make the many Muslims in Palestine and nearby Muslim countries even angrier and feeling justified in more violent responses to Israel.

This indiscriminate bombing is a lose lose for both sides.

It is also morally and legally wrong.

Yes, my response to your absurd assertion is to point out its absurdity.

Since nearby Muslim countries have been so very welcoming to Israel since they rolled out the welcome mat in 1948, I agree that continuing this history of amicable co-existence should be Israel’s top priority.

Now, whether there’s a better, more humane way for Israel to achieve its goals?

That’s a good question: what would you suggest, exactly?

You have zero common sense of you can’t recognize that Isarael’s unwise and unjust treatment of the majority of innocent people in a Gaza is not going to create more extreme hostility to Israel.

Actions have consequences.

No one is defending Hamas terrorists but Israel’s response is cruel and foolish.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to fathom how anyone at this point is still nitpicking over the extent of Hamas’ barbaric attacks.

Because Israel’s barbaric attacks are a million times worse. No Israel has no excuse to act like animals and no this is not self defense. Mindless bombing is not getting rid of Hamas. It is creating a bigger following for Hamas. Just like how ISIS was created because the U.S. could not mind its own business and invaded Iraq. Have you seen the way the Israelis government is talking about killing Palestinians. They have no remorse. Hamas is a terrorist organization but what does that make Israel? What Israel is doing is outright cold blooded murder of innocent Palestinians. First these Zionists take their land, rob them of their humanity, confine them to a narrow strip of land, imprison their innocent men and when the occupied become extremists and fight back, these Zionists scream anti semitism. Thank God for sane voices such as Jewish voice for peace who see things for what they are and refuse to make excuses for Israel’s genocide campaign.

Yes, this is self defense.

Yes, this is killing Hamas fighters.

No, this is not genocide.

The reason the Palestinians don’t have a state is because THEY rejected the two state solution in 1948 (and many times since) and tried to destroy Israel.

FFS.

LOL they have been carpet bombing Gaza for the past 22 days and apparently have only killed a few Hamas fighters but have successfully killed 7000 civilians. Gosh they really suck at their job. Keep stating your lies but I can guarantee you repeatedly stating these statements will not make them true. A lie is a lie is a lie.

Funny, you didn’t actually point out any lies.

You admitted that Israel is killing Hamas fighters, as I said.

You didn’t address any of my other points.

So, who’s lying?

You.

But I know the lies help you sleep better at night (or maybe not) so carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all so heart breaking. The Palestinians have been cut off from the world. They have no electricity and internet. They are sitting there in darkness and getting bombed. This is GENOCIDE no matter what you say. Half the Palestinian population is under 18. Do you guys have no shame? Do you guys not fear your God? Do you think your God will be in favor of taking the lives of these innocent children?

This in insanity. This mindless bombing is not killing Hamas. It is creating more Hamas members by killing people’s entire families and making them harbor even more resentment towards their occupiers. Netanyahu couldn’t care less about getting Hamas. Hamas actually helps his agenda. Pretty sure he willfully ignored the signs of an imminent Hamas attack because it gave him the perfect excuse to go in and annihilate the Palestinian population. There is no way the IDF and Mossad did not know what was coming with all their intelligence and support from the U.S. The IDF just wants to kill all Palestinians and the world is just watching as this genocide is taking place. What a sad world to raise our kids in.

This is not genocide.

This is not mindless bombing.

This is killing Hamas.

The IDF does not just want to kill Palestinians.

Your conspiracy theory is wrong.

In short, everything you wrote is factually incorrect.

Ok IDF propaganda machine. This is GENOCIDE. It is mindless bombing when apartment buildings have turned into rubble and people are moving concrete with their bare hands to pull dead kids out. I don’t know how you can in your conscience justify this barbaric behavior.

Sadly this isn’t a video game where Israel is bombing to get the bad guys. This is real life and almost 3000 Palestinians children have died and many more have been orphaned. Where is Hamas? If Hamas is in tunnels what will bombing apartment buildings so when the tunnels are intact??! Is the plan to turn all of Gaza into rubble?! Then just say it out loud instead of telling Palestinians to run south and then start bombing the south, telling them to shelter in safe places and then bomb those exact safe places. This is really psychotic behavior.

It’s sickening how they are just playing with Palestinian lives. Meanwhile the Israeli youth is mocking the plight of the Palestinians and making fun of them on their tiktok videos. How cruel can one be??!

Hamas are the villains who made this happen. Stop supporting terrorists who attack Israeli civilians and then hide behind Palestinian civilians.

Hamas were trained by Russian mercenary terrorists as souring wanted to divert Workd attention from his illegal war.

What Hamas terrorists did to innocent Israelis was horrific but this does not justify the war crimes being visited upon so many innocent two million mostly young and poor Palestinians.

Israel is not only behaving in barbaric indiscriminate way by continuing to bomb Gaza but is radicalizing many Muslims against Israel. They are making Israel’s position in the Middle East much less safe and stable. This response a lose-lose way to deal with Hamas terrorists.

“Radicalizing many Muslims against Israel?”

As opposed to all the love that Muslims have shown to Israel since 1948?

You’re joking, right?

That is your response to war crimes not being justified ?

Obviously 79 years of ongoing tensions and occasional wars has created a tinder box ready to explode: Israel’s indiscriminate response to innocent Palestinians is obviously going to make the many Muslims in Palestine and nearby Muslim countries even angrier and feeling justified in more violent responses to Israel.

This indiscriminate bombing is a lose lose for both sides.

It is also morally and legally wrong.

Yes, my response to your absurd assertion is to point out its absurdity.

Since nearby Muslim countries have been so very welcoming to Israel since they rolled out the welcome mat in 1948, I agree that continuing this history of amicable co-existence should be Israel’s top priority.

Now, whether there’s a better, more humane way for Israel to achieve its goals?

That’s a good question: what would you suggest, exactly?

You have zero common sense of you can’t recognize that Isarael’s unwise and unjust treatment of the majority of innocent people in a Gaza is not going to create more extreme hostility to Israel.

Actions have consequences.

No one is defending Hamas terrorists but Israel’s response is cruel and foolish.

More extreme than 75 years of efforts to obliterate Israel?

I mean, I’m not sure there’s much downside potential.

That said, how exactly would you suggest Israel respond?

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to fathom how anyone at this point is still nitpicking over the extent of Hamas’ barbaric attacks.

Because Israel’s barbaric attacks are a million times worse. No Israel has no excuse to act like animals and no this is not self defense. Mindless bombing is not getting rid of Hamas. It is creating a bigger following for Hamas. Just like how ISIS was created because the U.S. could not mind its own business and invaded Iraq. Have you seen the way the Israelis government is talking about killing Palestinians. They have no remorse. Hamas is a terrorist organization but what does that make Israel? What Israel is doing is outright cold blooded murder of innocent Palestinians. First these Zionists take their land, rob them of their humanity, confine them to a narrow strip of land, imprison their innocent men and when the occupied become extremists and fight back, these Zionists scream anti semitism. Thank God for sane voices such as Jewish voice for peace who see things for what they are and refuse to make excuses for Israel’s genocide campaign.

Yes, this is self defense.

Yes, this is killing Hamas fighters.

No, this is not genocide.

The reason the Palestinians don’t have a state is because THEY rejected the two state solution in 1948 (and many times since) and tried to destroy Israel.

FFS.

LOL they have been carpet bombing Gaza for the past 22 days and apparently have only killed a few Hamas fighters but have successfully killed 7000 civilians. Gosh they really suck at their job. Keep stating your lies but I can guarantee you repeatedly stating these statements will not make them true. A lie is a lie is a lie.

Funny, you didn’t actually point out any lies.

You admitted that Israel is killing Hamas fighters, as I said.

You didn’t address any of my other points.

So, who’s lying?

You.

But I know the lies help you sleep better at night (or maybe not) so carry on.

Again, which lies exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:Israeli flag being raised at captured Hamas structure. It is only temporary—Israel wants nothing to do with the place. Who would?

Captured Hamas structure = pile of dead Palestinian children.

No. Hamas is a heavily militarized death cult.

Yet, Israel does all the killing.

Even if we were operating under the barbaric an eye for an eye, Israel has slaughtered twice as many more children and babies than the total number killed by Hamas.

How many more do they need to feel avenged? Will Israel not stop until every man, woman and child in Gaza is dead? I wonder how long they’ve planned this genocide.

Again, this War will cost Dems the presidency. Trump is out but Biden has already lost.

Agreed. Biden’s press office had to issue a correction when he spread the fake propaganda about beheaded babies on 10/7. As if that wasn’t bad enough, since then, he’s said he doesn’t believe the death toll in Gaza.

“I have no confidence in the numbers the Palestinians are using.”

That clip is going to play over and over again during campaign. His legacy is going to be a genocide denier.

No, he’s a genocide enabler. I will never vote for him

You do you, but um, the alternative is much much worse. You can disenfranchise yourself if you want of course. Personally I look at elections as a choice between different versions of reality, and pick the least bad one.

I can’t stomach genocide. I also cannot align myself with people who openly support it . It’s my red line so will vote third party. Hopefully Ds will separate themselves from ethnic cleansing. Shouldn’t be that hard of an ask

There is a difference between killing people in a war and "genocide". It doesn't matter how many times you say the word; it is simply not what is happening here.
Do you understand what war is? And what happens during war? Do you understand that wars have been raging all over the world your entire life? Wars involve blackouts, hunger, thirst, buildings turned to rubble, dead children. It is hell and it's been happening somewhere since the day you were born and for thousands of years before that.

It seems like we have a lot of people who've lived in la-la-land, then saw some TikTok videos about this conflict, learned the word "genocide" and have run with it, barking all over the Internet for weeks.

Lol how the heck is this a WAR? This is a one sided conflict with one side getting 3 billion dollars every year in military aid from the U.S. and the other side throwing random pathetic rockets which seldom land anywhere. A war is between two militaries, two armies, two countries! This is not a war! This is one country trying to kill an entire population because they believe they have the God given right to do so.

You suggest Israel responds with an invasion to behead Palestinian babies, rape their women, and kidnap elderly? Would this be fair in your eyes?

Israeli babies weren’t beheaded. If it was true, it wouldn’t have been walked back by the White House.

Rape isn’t confirmed either. We haven’t heard any stories from any Israeli woman that she was raped by Hamas

Suddenly you’re concerned with verifying facts?

That’s rich.

Facts should always come before emotion. Biden said women were raped before IDF said it.

There is lots of misinformation about Oct 7 namely beheading babies and the mass rape of many Israeli women. None of these things are confirmed but according to the IDF, it’s “presumed” to have happened

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/what-we-know-about-three-widespread-israel-hamas-war-claims/

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You didn’t even understand the point.

You’re a dreadful failure as a propagandist.

How am I a propagandist if I’m anti Hamas? I’ve been hand wringing about getting to the tunnels or destroying the tunnels all throughout the threads. Hamas is not in Gaza. They are outside of Gaza in the tunnels.

Israel knows where they are but are killing civilians because of revenge which I get but the response is way past getting even at this point. Israel already won the kill Olympics so I don’t understand why continue the siege on Gaza when Hamas is still shooting rockets into Israel proving nothing is really Getting done unless these tunnels get handled

Outside of Gaza, where? In Israel? In Egypt?

They are outside where rockets can be launched not inside buildings. But that doesn’t stop Israel from crushing babies and women and kids to death in these buildings and creating more Hamas .

Actually yes. They are in Israel according to the hostages. They recognized some of the terrorists as part of a work permit program and some
Spoke Hebrew. They are everywhere in Egypt and in the West Bank as well as Syria and Lebanon and Qatar. They are more spread out then the IDF. Now what is bombing buildings and homes in Gaza going to do to root out Hamas? It creates more Hamas

Since, you are into fact-checking, Palestinians lied about hospital bombing to make Israel look bad. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-fakes-surrounding-the-gaza-hospital-blast/a-67154393

Based on that, they probably routinely lie about the rest of the bombings and causalities, so you can calm down a bit.

Also, if you are right about the Russians training Hamas, then Hamas learned to blame the other side for their, Hamas, was crimes and atrocities. Fight Hamas, not Israel.

Palestinians hacked Hananya Naftali’s Twitter account, and the IDF Arabic Facebook account? Both claimed responsibility for bombing the hospital.

If Israel is certain they didn’t bomb the hospital after warning them about an imminent bombing for days, let a team of neutral foreign chemical explosive specialists come to Gaza and test whether the chemicals on the scene resemble IDF or Palestinian bombs . Will Israel allow this ?

Dear genius,

Hamas refused to turn over any parts of the explosive for independent analysis.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67216929

Posting a link to BBC and then making a false statement doesn’t help your cause. That is another thing I have noted from these Pro Israeli hard core Zionists. They will state a lie and then post a link but when you actually read the article in the link, nothing in the article supports their statement. It’s hilarious but also really sad to see the extent they will go to to justify their lies.

Try reading the article again (and the referenced NYT piece).

Then come back and tell me who’s preventing analysis of the hospital bomb fragments?

C’mon, I dare you.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all so heart breaking. The Palestinians have been cut off from the world. They have no electricity and internet. They are sitting there in darkness and getting bombed. This is GENOCIDE no matter what you say. Half the Palestinian population is under 18. Do you guys have no shame? Do you guys not fear your God? Do you think your God will be in favor of taking the lives of these innocent children?

This in insanity. This mindless bombing is not killing Hamas. It is creating more Hamas members by killing people’s entire families and making them harbor even more resentment towards their occupiers. Netanyahu couldn’t care less about getting Hamas. Hamas actually helps his agenda. Pretty sure he willfully ignored the signs of an imminent Hamas attack because it gave him the perfect excuse to go in and annihilate the Palestinian population. There is no way the IDF and Mossad did not know what was coming with all their intelligence and support from the U.S. The IDF just wants to kill all Palestinians and the world is just watching as this genocide is taking place. What a sad world to raise our kids in.

This is not genocide.

This is not mindless bombing.

This is killing Hamas.

The IDF does not just want to kill Palestinians.

Your conspiracy theory is wrong.

In short, everything you wrote is factually incorrect.

Ok IDF propaganda machine. This is GENOCIDE. It is mindless bombing when apartment buildings have turned into rubble and people are moving concrete with their bare hands to pull dead kids out. I don’t know how you can in your conscience justify this barbaric behavior.

Sadly this isn’t a video game where Israel is bombing to get the bad guys. This is real life and almost 3000 Palestinians children have died and many more have been orphaned. Where is Hamas? If Hamas is in tunnels what will bombing apartment buildings so when the tunnels are intact??! Is the plan to turn all of Gaza into rubble?! Then just say it out loud instead of telling Palestinians to run south and then start bombing the south, telling them to shelter in safe places and then bomb those exact safe places. This is really psychotic behavior.

It’s sickening how they are just playing with Palestinian lives. Meanwhile the Israeli youth is mocking the plight of the Palestinians and making fun of them on their tiktok videos. How cruel can one be??!

Hamas are the villains who made this happen. Stop supporting terrorists who attack Israeli civilians and then hide behind Palestinian civilians.

Hamas were trained by Russian mercenary terrorists as souring wanted to divert Workd attention from his illegal war.

What Hamas terrorists did to innocent Israelis was horrific but this does not justify the war crimes being visited upon so many innocent two million mostly young and poor Palestinians.

Israel is not only behaving in barbaric indiscriminate way by continuing to bomb Gaza but is radicalizing many Muslims against Israel. They are making Israel’s position in the Middle East much less safe and stable. This response a lose-lose way to deal with Hamas terrorists.

“Radicalizing many Muslims against Israel?”

As opposed to all the love that Muslims have shown to Israel since 1948?

You’re joking, right?

That is your response to war crimes not being justified ?

Obviously 79 years of ongoing tensions and occasional wars has created a tinder box ready to explode: Israel’s indiscriminate response to innocent Palestinians is obviously going to make the many Muslims in Palestine and nearby Muslim countries even angrier and feeling justified in more violent responses to Israel.

This indiscriminate bombing is a lose lose for both sides.

It is also morally and legally wrong.

Yes, my response to your absurd assertion is to point out its absurdity.

Since nearby Muslim countries have been so very welcoming to Israel since they rolled out the welcome mat in 1948, I agree that continuing this history of amicable co-existence should be Israel’s top priority.

Now, whether there’s a better, more humane way for Israel to achieve its goals?

That’s a good question: what would you suggest, exactly?

You have zero common sense of you can’t recognize that Isarael’s unwise and unjust treatment of the majority of innocent people in a Gaza is not going to create more extreme hostility to Israel.

Actions have consequences.

No one is defending Hamas terrorists but Israel’s response is cruel and foolish.

Action have consequences, indeed. Gaza is seeing the response to its government’s attack on Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to fathom how anyone at this point is still nitpicking over the extent of Hamas’ barbaric attacks.

Because Israel’s barbaric attacks are a million times worse. No Israel has no excuse to act like animals and no this is not self defense. Mindless bombing is not getting rid of Hamas. It is creating a bigger following for Hamas. Just like how ISIS was created because the U.S. could not mind its own business and invaded Iraq. Have you seen the way the Israelis government is talking about killing Palestinians. They have no remorse. Hamas is a terrorist organization but what does that make Israel? What Israel is doing is outright cold blooded murder of innocent Palestinians. First these Zionists take their land, rob them of their humanity, confine them to a narrow strip of land, imprison their innocent men and when the occupied become extremists and fight back, these Zionists scream anti semitism. Thank God for sane voices such as Jewish voice for peace who see things for what they are and refuse to make excuses for Israel’s genocide campaign.

Yes, this is self defense.

Yes, this is killing Hamas fighters.

No, this is not genocide.

The reason the Palestinians don’t have a state is because THEY rejected the two state solution in 1948 (and many times since) and tried to destroy Israel.

FFS.

How is indiscriminate bombing of two million very young and poor Palestinians not genocide?

Have you looked up the definition of the word genocide?

Give it a go, then we can chat.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all so heart breaking. The Palestinians have been cut off from the world. They have no electricity and internet. They are sitting there in darkness and getting bombed. This is GENOCIDE no matter what you say. Half the Palestinian population is under 18. Do you guys have no shame? Do you guys not fear your God? Do you think your God will be in favor of taking the lives of these innocent children?

This in insanity. This mindless bombing is not killing Hamas. It is creating more Hamas members by killing people’s entire families and making them harbor even more resentment towards their occupiers. Netanyahu couldn’t care less about getting Hamas. Hamas actually helps his agenda. Pretty sure he willfully ignored the signs of an imminent Hamas attack because it gave him the perfect excuse to go in and annihilate the Palestinian population. There is no way the IDF and Mossad did not know what was coming with all their intelligence and support from the U.S. The IDF just wants to kill all Palestinians and the world is just watching as this genocide is taking place. What a sad world to raise our kids in.

This is not genocide.

This is not mindless bombing.

This is killing Hamas.

The IDF does not just want to kill Palestinians.

Your conspiracy theory is wrong.

In short, everything you wrote is factually incorrect.

Ok IDF propaganda machine. This is GENOCIDE. It is mindless bombing when apartment buildings have turned into rubble and people are moving concrete with their bare hands to pull dead kids out. I don’t know how you can in your conscience justify this barbaric behavior.

Sadly this isn’t a video game where Israel is bombing to get the bad guys. This is real life and almost 3000 Palestinians children have died and many more have been orphaned. Where is Hamas? If Hamas is in tunnels what will bombing apartment buildings so when the tunnels are intact??! Is the plan to turn all of Gaza into rubble?! Then just say it out loud instead of telling Palestinians to run south and then start bombing the south, telling them to shelter in safe places and then bomb those exact safe places. This is really psychotic behavior.

It’s sickening how they are just playing with Palestinian lives. Meanwhile the Israeli youth is mocking the plight of the Palestinians and making fun of them on their tiktok videos. How cruel can one be??!

Hamas are the villains who made this happen. Stop supporting terrorists who attack Israeli civilians and then hide behind Palestinian civilians.

Hamas were trained by Russian mercenary terrorists as souring wanted to divert Workd attention from his illegal war.

What Hamas terrorists did to innocent Israelis was horrific but this does not justify the war crimes being visited upon so many innocent two million mostly young and poor Palestinians.

Israel is not only behaving in barbaric indiscriminate way by continuing to bomb Gaza but is radicalizing many Muslims against Israel. They are making Israel’s position in the Middle East much less safe and stable. This response a lose-lose way to deal with Hamas terrorists.

“Radicalizing many Muslims against Israel?”

As opposed to all the love that Muslims have shown to Israel since 1948?

You’re joking, right?

That is your response to war crimes not being justified ?

Obviously 79 years of ongoing tensions and occasional wars has created a tinder box ready to explode: Israel’s indiscriminate response to innocent Palestinians is obviously going to make the many Muslims in Palestine and nearby Muslim countries even angrier and feeling justified in more violent responses to Israel.

This indiscriminate bombing is a lose lose for both sides.

It is also morally and legally wrong.

Yes, my response to your absurd assertion is to point out its absurdity.

Since nearby Muslim countries have been so very welcoming to Israel since they rolled out the welcome mat in 1948, I agree that continuing this history of amicable co-existence should be Israel’s top priority.

Now, whether there’s a better, more humane way for Israel to achieve its goals?

That’s a good question: what would you suggest, exactly?

You have zero common sense of you can’t recognize that Isarael’s unwise and unjust treatment of the majority of innocent people in a Gaza is not going to create more extreme hostility to Israel.

Actions have consequences.

No one is defending Hamas terrorists but Israel’s response is cruel and foolish.

More extreme than 75 years of efforts to obliterate Israel?

I mean, I’m not sure there’s much downside potential.

That said, how exactly would you suggest Israel respond?

A lot more restraint against innocent civilians for starters. No carpet bombing.

A lot more attempts at diplomatic efforts to retrieve hostages.

Targeted attacks on tunnels and known Hamas HQs.

Recognize Russian mercenary terrorists trained the Hamas terrorists in order to start a regional war and divert attention from their illegal war in Ukraine. Not allow Israel to be used as cynical Russian ploy to assert Russian and Chinese dominance in world order. Don’t let Russia play you l

Negotiate with Iran, Egypt, Jordan and other nearby Muslim countries to show them you value their opinion and cooperation in continuing Muslim extremists (most of these countries are combatting extremism also)

Work much much harder on viable two state solution.


I know irbid all much easier said than done. But mass destruction of innocents in Gaza is clearly not the answer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is all so heart breaking. The Palestinians have been cut off from the world. They have no electricity and internet. They are sitting there in darkness and getting bombed. This is GENOCIDE no matter what you say. Half the Palestinian population is under 18. Do you guys have no shame? Do you guys not fear your God? Do you think your God will be in favor of taking the lives of these innocent children?

This in insanity. This mindless bombing is not killing Hamas. It is creating more Hamas members by killing people’s entire families and making them harbor even more resentment towards their occupiers. Netanyahu couldn’t care less about getting Hamas. Hamas actually helps his agenda. Pretty sure he willfully ignored the signs of an imminent Hamas attack because it gave him the perfect excuse to go in and annihilate the Palestinian population. There is no way the IDF and Mossad did not know what was coming with all their intelligence and support from the U.S. The IDF just wants to kill all Palestinians and the world is just watching as this genocide is taking place. What a sad world to raise our kids in.

This is not genocide.

This is not mindless bombing.

This is killing Hamas.

The IDF does not just want to kill Palestinians.

Your conspiracy theory is wrong.

In short, everything you wrote is factually incorrect.

Ok IDF propaganda machine. This is GENOCIDE. It is mindless bombing when apartment buildings have turned into rubble and people are moving concrete with their bare hands to pull dead kids out. I don’t know how you can in your conscience justify this barbaric behavior.

Sadly this isn’t a video game where Israel is bombing to get the bad guys. This is real life and almost 3000 Palestinians children have died and many more have been orphaned. Where is Hamas? If Hamas is in tunnels what will bombing apartment buildings so when the tunnels are intact??! Is the plan to turn all of Gaza into rubble?! Then just say it out loud instead of telling Palestinians to run south and then start bombing the south, telling them to shelter in safe places and then bomb those exact safe places. This is really psychotic behavior.

It’s sickening how they are just playing with Palestinian lives. Meanwhile the Israeli youth is mocking the plight of the Palestinians and making fun of them on their tiktok videos. How cruel can one be??!

Hamas are the villains who made this happen. Stop supporting terrorists who attack Israeli civilians and then hide behind Palestinian civilians.

Hamas were trained by Russian mercenary terrorists as souring wanted to divert Workd attention from his illegal war.

What Hamas terrorists did to innocent Israelis was horrific but this does not justify the war crimes being visited upon so many innocent two million mostly young and poor Palestinians.

Israel is not only behaving in barbaric indiscriminate way by continuing to bomb Gaza but is radicalizing many Muslims against Israel. They are making Israel’s position in the Middle East much less safe and stable. This response a lose-lose way to deal with Hamas terrorists.

“Radicalizing many Muslims against Israel?”

As opposed to all the love that Muslims have shown to Israel since 1948?

You’re joking, right?

That is your response to war crimes not being justified ?

Obviously 79 years of ongoing tensions and occasional wars has created a tinder box ready to explode: Israel’s indiscriminate response to innocent Palestinians is obviously going to make the many Muslims in Palestine and nearby Muslim countries even angrier and feeling justified in more violent responses to Israel.

This indiscriminate bombing is a lose lose for both sides.

It is also morally and legally wrong.

Yes, my response to your absurd assertion is to point out its absurdity.

Since nearby Muslim countries have been so very welcoming to Israel since they rolled out the welcome mat in 1948, I agree that continuing this history of amicable co-existence should be Israel’s top priority.

Now, whether there’s a better, more humane way for Israel to achieve its goals?

That’s a good question: what would you suggest, exactly?

You have zero common sense of you can’t recognize that Isarael’s unwise and unjust treatment of the majority of innocent people in a Gaza is not going to create more extreme hostility to Israel.

Actions have consequences.

No one is defending Hamas terrorists but Israel’s response is cruel and foolish.

More extreme than 75 years of efforts to obliterate Israel?

I mean, I’m not sure there’s much downside potential.

That said, how exactly would you suggest Israel respond?

A lot more restraint against innocent civilians for starters. No carpet bombing.

A lot more attempts at diplomatic efforts to retrieve hostages.

Targeted attacks on tunnels and known Hamas HQs.

Recognize Russian mercenary terrorists trained the Hamas terrorists in order to start a regional war and divert attention from their illegal war in Ukraine. Not allow Israel to be used as cynical Russian ploy to assert Russian and Chinese dominance in world order. Don’t let Russia play you l

Negotiate with Iran, Egypt, Jordan and other nearby Muslim countries to show them you value their opinion and cooperation in continuing Muslim extremists (most of these countries are combatting extremism also)

Work much much harder on viable two state solution.


I know irbid all much easier said than done. But mass destruction of innocents in Gaza is clearly not the answer.

Should say containing not continuing extremists

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is all so heart breaking. The Palestinians have been cut off from the world. They have no electricity and internet. They are sitting there in darkness and getting bombed. This is GENOCIDE no matter what you say. Half the Palestinian population is under 18. Do you guys have no shame? Do you guys not fear your God? Do you think your God will be in favor of taking the lives of these innocent children?

This in insanity. This mindless bombing is not killing Hamas. It is creating more Hamas members by killing people’s entire families and making them harbor even more resentment towards their occupiers. Netanyahu couldn’t care less about getting Hamas. Hamas actually helps his agenda. Pretty sure he willfully ignored the signs of an imminent Hamas attack because it gave him the perfect excuse to go in and annihilate the Palestinian population. There is no way the IDF and Mossad did not know what was coming with all their intelligence and support from the U.S. The IDF just wants to kill all Palestinians and the world is just watching as this genocide is taking place. What a sad world to raise our kids in.

This is not genocide.

This is not mindless bombing.

This is killing Hamas.

The IDF does not just want to kill Palestinians.

Your conspiracy theory is wrong.

In short, everything you wrote is factually incorrect.

Ok IDF propaganda machine. This is GENOCIDE. It is mindless bombing when apartment buildings have turned into rubble and people are moving concrete with their bare hands to pull dead kids out. I don’t know how you can in your conscience justify this barbaric behavior.

Sadly this isn’t a video game where Israel is bombing to get the bad guys. This is real life and almost 3000 Palestinians children have died and many more have been orphaned. Where is Hamas? If Hamas is in tunnels what will bombing apartment buildings so when the tunnels are intact??! Is the plan to turn all of Gaza into rubble?! Then just say it out loud instead of telling Palestinians to run south and then start bombing the south, telling them to shelter in safe places and then bomb those exact safe places. This is really psychotic behavior.

It’s sickening how they are just playing with Palestinian lives. Meanwhile the Israeli youth is mocking the plight of the Palestinians and making fun of them on their tiktok videos. How cruel can one be??!

Hamas are the villains who made this happen. Stop supporting terrorists who attack Israeli civilians and then hide behind Palestinian civilians.

Hamas were trained by Russian mercenary terrorists as souring wanted to divert Workd attention from his illegal war.

What Hamas terrorists did to innocent Israelis was horrific but this does not justify the war crimes being visited upon so many innocent two million mostly young and poor Palestinians.

Israel is not only behaving in barbaric indiscriminate way by continuing to bomb Gaza but is radicalizing many Muslims against Israel. They are making Israel’s position in the Middle East much less safe and stable. This response a lose-lose way to deal with Hamas terrorists.

“Radicalizing many Muslims against Israel?”

As opposed to all the love that Muslims have shown to Israel since 1948?

You’re joking, right?

That is your response to war crimes not being justified ?

Obviously 79 years of ongoing tensions and occasional wars has created a tinder box ready to explode: Israel’s indiscriminate response to innocent Palestinians is obviously going to make the many Muslims in Palestine and nearby Muslim countries even angrier and feeling justified in more violent responses to Israel.

This indiscriminate bombing is a lose lose for both sides.

It is also morally and legally wrong.

Yes, my response to your absurd assertion is to point out its absurdity.

Since nearby Muslim countries have been so very welcoming to Israel since they rolled out the welcome mat in 1948, I agree that continuing this history of amicable co-existence should be Israel’s top priority.

Now, whether there’s a better, more humane way for Israel to achieve its goals?

That’s a good question: what would you suggest, exactly?

You have zero common sense of you can’t recognize that Isarael’s unwise and unjust treatment of the majority of innocent people in a Gaza is not going to create more extreme hostility to Israel.

Actions have consequences.

No one is defending Hamas terrorists but Israel’s response is cruel and foolish.

More extreme than 75 years of efforts to obliterate Israel?

I mean, I’m not sure there’s much downside potential.

That said, how exactly would you suggest Israel respond?

A lot more restraint against innocent civilians for starters. No carpet bombing.

A lot more attempts at diplomatic efforts to retrieve hostages.

Targeted attacks on tunnels and known Hamas HQs.

Recognize Russian mercenary terrorists trained the Hamas terrorists in order to start a regional war and divert attention from their illegal war in Ukraine. Not allow Israel to be used as cynical Russian ploy to assert Russian and Chinese dominance in world order. Don’t let Russia play you l

Negotiate with Iran, Egypt, Jordan and other nearby Muslim countries to show them you value their opinion and cooperation in continuing Muslim extremists (most of these countries are combatting extremism also)

Work much much harder on viable two state solution.


I know irbid all much easier said than done. But mass destruction of innocents in Gaza is clearly not the answer.

1. I agree that a more limited campaign would be wiser, as would efforts to align Egypt and Jordan.

2. That said, neither is likely to produce significant results and negotiating with Iran is pointless, as you surely know.

3. Israel doesn’t much care about the larger geopolitical significance (beyond its impact in the region).

4. Negotiations will not produce the destruction of Hamas’s military capability, which is (understandably) Israel’s goal here.

5. Therefore, at end of day, a war in Gaza was probably inevitable. But like you, I wish Israel had exhausted all other options first.