Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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Anonymous wrote:The clear takeaway from the body cam video is that both of these young people were deeply troubled and mentally ill. We don’t know yet how she died. Let’s stop speculating until the facts are in, cause of death, etc. They swore they hadn’t been drinking or doing drugs, but they sure looked like the were both strung out. And both admitted to mental health issues during the traffic stop.

OMG STOPPP!! He fake texted her mom, drive home without her and told police nothing, ever.

He is mentally ill. You don’t know where his head was at, how she died, or why he responded to her death this way. You have no idea what really happened.

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Plus there’s no hard evidence that he texted her mom after her death. She was mentally ill too, and your damning assumptions are based on the distraught mother’s hunch that these texts didn’t “sound like” her daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:A classic sign of an abuse victim is taking FULL accountability for an entire argument such as what Gaby did in the police video.

Notice how she seemed apologetic for her part in the “scuffle” and blamed herself for why Brian got angry??
She was the one clearly affected and distraught, he was acting like none of it was any big deal to him.
He showed no signs of being negatively affected by the situation. At all.

So the fact that these cops were calling him the victim is truly laughable.

Please stop trying to make the cops the bad guys. They had a 911 call saying that Gabby had hit him. He had scratches on his face. They both confirmed that Gabby hit him while he was driving. They had no evidence that he hit her. The other 911 call saying he hit her was from another incident. The fact that they didn’t charge her implies that they knew something was off about the story, but they simply didn’t have grounds to do anything else other than what they did.

I cannot in good faith agree with the posters who are saying the cops did a great job.

Because they did not.
No, they did not cause her murder in any way.
That is not their fault.

What IS their fault is that they handled the August 12 situation horribly.
They didn’t take into account that another witness had claimed that Brian was seen striking Gabby.

Yes, in watching the Body Cam video, it doesn't seem like they had this info at the time. If they did, they weren't discussing it on the video.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me how Brian could be so bald at the age of TWENTY THREE? I seriously thought the guy was like 40. He's so ugly.

He had a receding hairline and shaved it. They seemed equally attractive/not attractive. She looked like she was 12.

In any case their relative beauty and their ages don’t matter. Two people with mental health issues were far from home, living in a van amping up their issues. And now at least one of them is dead. Worse his parents decided to finally get involved after the sh!t hit the fan and are now internet fodder (possibly being charged) too.

Worse than Gabby being murdered is Brian's parents being talked about on the internet for helping their son flee justice. Worse. Of course. Perfectly reasonable take.

It’s worse because it they could’ve intervened earlier — they had to have seen the issues — and stopped things from getting this far. I don’t care that they are internet fodder. They deserve it. All of what I said before is worse than whether Brian was bald. That is the comparison I was making. The couple’s looks don’t matter.

Totally agree that looks don’t matter. So many very shallow people are on this thread, saying Gabby didn’t deserve this because she’s “so pretty”! So an ugly woman would have deserved it? SMH.

Obviously no one deserves to be murdered no matter what they look like. People here didn’t know Gabby, all they know of her is her pictures. They’re saying she was so pretty because they don’t really know anything else to say about her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The clear takeaway from the body cam video is that both of these young people were deeply troubled and mentally ill. We don’t know yet how she died. Let’s stop speculating until the facts are in, cause of death, etc. They swore they hadn’t been drinking or doing drugs, but they sure looked like the were both strung out. And both admitted to mental health issues during the traffic stop.

OMG STOPPP!! He fake texted her mom, drive home without her and told police nothing, ever.

He is mentally ill. You don’t know where his head was at, how she died, or why he responded to her death this way. You have no idea what really happened.

Troll fail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A classic sign of an abuse victim is taking FULL accountability for an entire argument such as what Gaby did in the police video.

Notice how she seemed apologetic for her part in the “scuffle” and blamed herself for why Brian got angry??
She was the one clearly affected and distraught, he was acting like none of it was any big deal to him.
He showed no signs of being negatively affected by the situation. At all.

So the fact that these cops were calling him the victim is truly laughable.

Please stop trying to make the cops the bad guys. They had a 911 call saying that Gabby had hit him. He had scratches on his face. They both confirmed that Gabby hit him while he was driving. They had no evidence that he hit her. The other 911 call saying he hit her was from another incident. The fact that they didn’t charge her implies that they knew something was off about the story, but they simply didn’t have grounds to do anything else other than what they did.

I cannot in good faith agree with the posters who are saying the cops did a great job.

Because they did not.
No, they did not cause her murder in any way.
That is not their fault.

What IS their fault is that they handled the August 12 situation horribly.
They didn’t take into account that another witness had claimed that Brian was seen striking Gabby.

Yes, in watching the Body Cam video, it doesn't seem like they had this info at the time. If they did, they weren't discussing it on the video.

Don’t question the Monday Morning Quarterback! S/HE KNOWS EVERYTHING.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clear takeaway from the body cam video is that both of these young people were deeply troubled and mentally ill. We don’t know yet how she died. Let’s stop speculating until the facts are in, cause of death, etc. They swore they hadn’t been drinking or doing drugs, but they sure looked like the were both strung out. And both admitted to mental health issues during the traffic stop.

OMG STOPPP!! He fake texted her mom, drive home without her and told police nothing, ever.

He is mentally ill. You don’t know where his head was at, how she died, or why he responded to her death this way. You have no idea what really happened.

And you know this how? Assuming that he did murder her (and that's still an assumption at this point) he doesn't appear to have anything close to the severe mental illness required for a finding of "not guilty by reason of insanity" or even "guilty but mentally ill."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A classic sign of an abuse victim is taking FULL accountability for an entire argument such as what Gaby did in the police video.

Notice how she seemed apologetic for her part in the “scuffle” and blamed herself for why Brian got angry??
She was the one clearly affected and distraught, he was acting like none of it was any big deal to him.
He showed no signs of being negatively affected by the situation. At all.

So the fact that these cops were calling him the victim is truly laughable.

Please stop trying to make the cops the bad guys. They had a 911 call saying that Gabby had hit him. He had scratches on his face. They both confirmed that Gabby hit him while he was driving. They had no evidence that he hit her. The other 911 call saying he hit her was from another incident. The fact that they didn’t charge her implies that they knew something was off about the story, but they simply didn’t have grounds to do anything else other than what they did.

I cannot in good faith agree with the posters who are saying the cops did a great job.

Because they did not.
No, they did not cause her murder in any way.
That is not their fault.

What IS their fault is that they handled the August 12 situation horribly.
They didn’t take into account that another witness had claimed that Brian was seen striking Gabby.

Yes, in watching the Body Cam video, it doesn't seem like they had this info at the time. If they did, they weren't discussing it on the video.

Don’t question the Monday Morning Quarterback! S/HE KNOWS EVERYTHING.

Right. I guess the question will be whether they should have had that information, based on the timing of the second witness report. I think on the body cam footage, the police talk about how Gabby and Brian's reports match up with the witness report that they did have, right?

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Get me up to speed:

Was the dead body in Florida Brian's?

Did the lesbian couple interact with Brian and Gabby at the store and a camp site?

Where is report about Brian striking Gabby? Video?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clear takeaway from the body cam video is that both of these young people were deeply troubled and mentally ill. We don’t know yet how she died. Let’s stop speculating until the facts are in, cause of death, etc. They swore they hadn’t been drinking or doing drugs, but they sure looked like the were both strung out. And both admitted to mental health issues during the traffic stop.

OMG STOPPP!! He fake texted her mom, drive home without her and told police nothing, ever.

He is mentally ill. You don’t know where his head was at, how she died, or why he responded to her death this way. You have no idea what really happened.

And you know this how? Assuming that he did murder her (and that's still an assumption at this point) he doesn't appear to have anything close to the severe mental illness required for a finding of "not guilty by reason of insanity" or even "guilty but mentally ill."

His family was quoted as saying he struggles with mental health issues. That doesn't make him a serial killer, but perhaps he is manic.

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Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend has lawyer'd up and refuses to cooperate with police. If I had to guess, the police are likely focusing on retracing the GPS history of their phones.

People like this always have their phones on them.

I don't understand why guilty people do this and think it will work and they will get away with it.

Because sometimes it DOES work.
Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.

Refusing to cooperate with police is not something an innocent person does.

Every rich kid with a trust fund is taught to never talk to the police. It’s just self-preservation to go through your lawyer…

??? Poor kids in the projects often know this, too. It's a constitutional right to have counsel. If Brian Laundrie had info as to Gabby's possible whereabouts and was innocent, one would think he would have provided the police with that information, as he could have had counsel present while doing so.

After seeing people give false confessions in interrogations, it's hard to recommend that someone talk to the police without counsel present, especially someone young / naive / impressionable, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clear takeaway from the body cam video is that both of these young people were deeply troubled and mentally ill. We don’t know yet how she died. Let’s stop speculating until the facts are in, cause of death, etc. They swore they hadn’t been drinking or doing drugs, but they sure looked like the were both strung out. And both admitted to mental health issues during the traffic stop.

OMG STOPPP!! He fake texted her mom, drive home without her and told police nothing, ever.

He is mentally ill. You don’t know where his head was at, how she died, or why he responded to her death this way. You have no idea what really happened.

And you know this how? Assuming that he did murder her (and that's still an assumption at this point) he doesn't appear to have anything close to the severe mental illness required for a finding of "not guilty by reason of insanity" or even "guilty but mentally ill."

The stupidity on this thread makes me question the jury system. Let me spell it out for you. I’m the Body Cam video, both of these young people admit to the police they are mentally ill. The police remark that the issues were mental health, not DV. You cannot watch that video without seeing mental illness (unless they were on drugs, which Gabby strongly denied, also in the video). Now maybe he killed her. Or maybe she died and that amplified his mental issues, to a point where he thought he killed her. I’m just saying it’s distressing how everyone on this forum thinks they know he’s scum and a murdered. Let’s wait at least for toxicology anc time of death before we hang the guy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clear takeaway from the body cam video is that both of these young people were deeply troubled and mentally ill. We don’t know yet how she died. Let’s stop speculating until the facts are in, cause of death, etc. They swore they hadn’t been drinking or doing drugs, but they sure looked like the were both strung out. And both admitted to mental health issues during the traffic stop.

OMG STOPPP!! He fake texted her mom, drive home without her and told police nothing, ever.

He is mentally ill. You don’t know where his head was at, how she died, or why he responded to her death this way. You have no idea what really happened.

And you know this how? Assuming that he did murder her (and that's still an assumption at this point) he doesn't appear to have anything close to the severe mental illness required for a finding of "not guilty by reason of insanity" or even "guilty but mentally ill."

His family was quoted as saying he struggles with mental health issues. That doesn't make him a serial killer, but perhaps he is manic.

Manic? As in manic-depressive? The antiquated term for bipolar disorder? Does that make someone likely to murder someone? If so, I’m in trouble!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clear takeaway from the body cam video is that both of these young people were deeply troubled and mentally ill. We don’t know yet how she died. Let’s stop speculating until the facts are in, cause of death, etc. They swore they hadn’t been drinking or doing drugs, but they sure looked like the were both strung out. And both admitted to mental health issues during the traffic stop.

OMG STOPPP!! He fake texted her mom, drive home without her and told police nothing, ever.

He is mentally ill. You don’t know where his head was at, how she died, or why he responded to her death this way. You have no idea what really happened.

And you know this how? Assuming that he did murder her (and that's still an assumption at this point) he doesn't appear to have anything close to the severe mental illness required for a finding of "not guilty by reason of insanity" or even "guilty but mentally ill."

The stupidity on this thread makes me question the jury system. Let me spell it out for you. I’m the Body Cam video, both of these young people admit to the police they are mentally ill. The police remark that the issues were mental health, not DV. You cannot watch that video without seeing mental illness (unless they were on drugs, which Gabby strongly denied, also in the video). Now maybe he killed her. Or maybe she died and that amplified his mental issues, to a point where he thought he killed her. I’m just saying it’s distressing how everyone on this forum thinks they know he’s scum and a murdered. Let’s wait at least for toxicology anc time of death before we hang the guy.

I don't recall him saying that he is mentally ill anywhere on the body cam footage?? She says that she has anxiety and some OCD. Don't they both deny taking any medications? My point is that based on that body cam footage, no jury would ever find that he met the standard for "not guilty by reason of insanity" or "guilty but mentally ill." Both high standards, for good reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The clear takeaway from the body cam video is that both of these young people were deeply troubled and mentally ill. We don’t know yet how she died. Let’s stop speculating until the facts are in, cause of death, etc. They swore they hadn’t been drinking or doing drugs, but they sure looked like the were both strung out. And both admitted to mental health issues during the traffic stop.

OMG STOPPP!! He fake texted her mom, drive home without her and told police nothing, ever.

He is mentally ill. You don’t know where his head was at, how she died, or why he responded to her death this way. You have no idea what really happened.

And you know this how? Assuming that he did murder her (and that's still an assumption at this point) he doesn't appear to have anything close to the severe mental illness required for a finding of "not guilty by reason of insanity" or even "guilty but mentally ill."

His family was quoted as saying he struggles with mental health issues. That doesn't make him a serial killer, but perhaps he is manic.

Manic? As in manic-depressive? The antiquated term for bipolar disorder? Does that make someone likely to murder someone? If so, I’m in trouble!

There are different types and manifestations of bipolar disorder; my friend married a guy who is bipolar, as she is. She found out he is much much more violent than she bargained for. He is currently in jail waiting for his court date because he threatened her and violated his probation.

Just because you aren't violent when you are manic, doesn't mean everyone isn't.