How many minor transitions do you know ow

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I know one FTM trans teen and one human-to-furry trans child.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to say that I posted earlier about a young trans girl I know, but I only know because her mom is one of my best friends. She transitioned before kindergarten, so none of her friends, teachers, etc. know that she was born a boy. Virginia allows gender to be changed on a birth certificate and her parents have done that.

Just to say, you may know transgender children without being aware.

This is interesting… changing the birth certificate seems odd, since it seems that’s about sex (ie, physical characteristics) vs gender.

I would imagine that people not even knowing you are trans would be the eventual goal for most/all trans people, right? It wouldn’t be obvious in a child before puberty unless they join a swim team or something, but harder to conceal from puberty on.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t they just be effeminate males or more masculine females? Wear what you want, do the activities you want? Date who you want? What causes the leap from this to trans?

social contagion.

but like someone posted above, what or who is driving the social contagion? where did it originate?

Hm, whatever could it be that is the root that is driving this? It is a real mystery.




https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22005209/

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Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to say that I posted earlier about a young trans girl I know, but I only know because her mom is one of my best friends. She transitioned before kindergarten, so none of her friends, teachers, etc. know that she was born a boy. Virginia allows gender to be changed on a birth certificate and her parents have done that.

Just to say, you may know transgender children without being aware.

What if this child decides they are gender fluid, or would like to be male?

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Zero

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely there is social contagion going on. What the left fails to understand/accept is that it’s not as simple as “trans people are not hurting you so why do you care?” That argument fails to acknowledge the tremendous power of influence. Kids think this is cool or different and that they need to transition because they are special or whatever. Terrible lack of judgement from the left on this issue that might very well have cost this country its democracy.

Agree with this completely. I’m as liberal and open-hearted as they come and I am so furious that our country is going down for this.

I absolutely think all humans should identify as they wish and I love them for it. I also think parents and medical professionals have an absolute duty to act in the best interests of children, and in this case not allow/impose medical treatments that will permanently a child’s body. We all get one body in this life and it’s up to us, as adults, to ensure children reach the actual age of consent so THEY ALL have a fighting chance to make their own informed decisions about what happens to their bodies in the long run.

And before I get reamed - I am solely referring to medical interventions, such as puberty blockers or surgeries. Parents and the medical community should absolutely support their gender identity-questioning children in all the many other ways that don’t inflict permanent medical change.

Finally - I think it’s atrocious how this administration and its too-many supporters are treating transgender individuals. Absolutely appalling. But I think it’s equally appalling that it took this for the far left to finally get held to task.

This is already the standard. Children are not getting irreversible interventions.

The age for surgery and hormone therapy is 18.

Puberty blockers are complete reversible - you stop them and puberty starts. They have been used on cis children for decades for other medical reasons.

I’m not sure that’s true. I know a sophomore in high school who has had a mastectomy. I do know that his family supports him so he had their consent.

I think you mean she/her. Or ought to.

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Our family probably knows 10 kids, but our kids go to a liberal independent school. I wonder why there are so many more female-to-male transitions vs. the other way around. That's always bothered me.

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Anonymous wrote:Our family probably knows 10 kids, but our kids go to a liberal independent school. I wonder why there are so many more female-to-male transitions vs. the other way around. That's always bothered me.

I think the reason is obvious. I think I would have been susceptible to this as a child, so I'm glad this "option" wasn't available. I've had a double mastectomy and am on hormone therapy due to cancer, and I would be opposed to allowing my child to do it. My friend has a FTM trans child and I know she'd like to get the child into surgery. But these hormone blockers and surgeries are very serious and cause a lifetime of issues. Should be avoided if at all possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t they just be effeminate males or more masculine females? Wear what you want, do the activities you want? Date who you want? What causes the leap from this to trans?

social contagion.

but like someone posted above, what or who is driving the social contagion? where did it originate?

This is an interesting read on the topic and the money behind it.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/billionaire-family-pushing-synthetic-sex-identities-ssi-pritzkers

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A few, and one is a minor who had top surgery at 15.

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Who is paying for the adolescent' surgeries? Is it covered by insurance, or the family pays cash?

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Anonymous wrote:Who is paying for the adolescent' surgeries? Is it covered by insurance, or the family pays cash?

There are very few adolescent surgeries fyi. There were 2 bottom surgeries on minors last year, and overwhelmingly the surgeries that do occur are mtf breast reduction.

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Anonymous wrote:None in our circles. Which says a lot. You’d think it would be across circles but it is definitely not.

+1.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t they just be effeminate males or more masculine females? Wear what you want, do the activities you want? Date who you want? What causes the leap from this to trans?

This is what I don’t understand. Its as if kids are taught you don’t fit very masculine boy or very feminine girl, then maybe you must be non binary or switch genders.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve known several, but it’s because DS is trans. When he was transitioning, he was involved in a lot of therapy, medical appointments, and support/social groups. We got to know other families going through the process.

I don’t know of any kids who detransitioned. They all seemed to understand what they were asking for, and all of them had reached puberty. I do know a few parents who would love for their kids to detransition (regardless of the kid’s feelings) and would try to limit others’ access to trans medical care based on their own issues. They felt like it was a fad and their kid fell victim to that, causing anxiety and depression as well as brainwashing them into transitioning. The parents seemed to be going along with some level of medical care so they could say they’re being supportive (gender related care was all at the same place where we were so it wouldn’t be obvious if the kids were seeing a therapist or endocrinologist). In the meantime, their kids’ depression and anxiety were increasing because the kids knew their parents didn’t accept them and clearly thought it was a phase. Most of the other families seemed happy and normal.

now that I have a 12 year old, I just cannot fathom people who believe 12 year olds actually understand fully what they are doing with something this serious. I can believe a 12 year old has thoughts and feelings about gender and sex, but not that they have thought through such a decision like this.

Oh now that you have a 12 year old you're an expert on trans issues.

Got it.

Just be grateful this is not something your child has struggled with since the first grade (like mine has).

Just be thankful your family hasn't spent thousands of dollars on therapy and mental health treatment over many years to work through your child's gender issues.

Just be glad you didn't have to go to the ER when your child attempted suicide after years of despair.

And maybe try humility and a little less smugness.

Very few of us trans parents want to be here. We're here because we know our kids and want them to make it to adulthood.

A little grace goes a long way.

my 12 year old actually is playing around with pronouns. So no, I don’t think the vast majority of 12 year olds who suddenly think it’s interesting to be they/them actually have any capacity to say they want to change their permanently.

Your kid’s situation sounds different and frankly has mental health issues mixed in that are not clearly attributable to gender identity.

Just to be clear, you're allowing that?