Magruder HS Shooting

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Anonymous wrote:Metal detectors and/or x-ray machines make sense at this point as well as having a police presence. It absolutely can work. And, being held accountable. RJ may work for the K-5 crowd, but come MS and HS you know better and need consequences. If my kid is bullied, no way I'd agree to them setting down with the bully to talk it out. These bullies don't care nor do their parents. They probably learned to be bullies from the parents.

Yes. I would be down with RJ in elementary school. Beyond 5th grade, the kids need more than hugging and talking. Some of the students in HS are practically or are already adults. They need consequences and for some, they don't need to be in the school anymore. They need to be in rehab or jail.

Parents should get the option for RJ, especially if their child is the victim. Lets be real, just talking and hugging isn't going to stop a bully. I would not agree to RJ for my kids, especially if I wasn't there.

I’m a high school teacher and a parent. I would not approve of RJ for my own children. I want consequences, even if my child is the perpetrator. I’ve seen RJ fail over and over at my school and students openly mock the idea. I once had a student admit he wasn’t afraid of acting out / fighting because he’d only be asked to talk it out.

INteresting. I think RJ is great in concept but I’m sure it’s not implemented well. I don’t think victims should be required to do RJ - potential for retraumatizing them.

[Anonymous]

Any update on the victim? A news report that included an interview with his mom said the victim was still critical and not talking. I wonder if he is in a medically induced coma. My hopes were high because young people are strong, but maybe the delay in getting him to a hospital is part of the problem. I am praying for him and his family.

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I truly don’t understand why it took so long for a medical response for this young man. Did Magruder tell 911 that the student was shot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I truly don’t understand why it took so long for a medical response for this young man. Did Magruder tell 911 that the student was shot?

Did EMS response take long? I thought the controversy was that they weren't sure of the method of injury and it took 28 minutes to call for law enforcement backup.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly don’t understand why it took so long for a medical response for this young man. Did Magruder tell 911 that the student was shot?

Did EMS response take long? I thought the controversy was that they weren't sure of the method of injury and it took 28 minutes to call for law enforcement backup.

The initial call was for a possible stab wound. From the timelines I’ve seen it isn’t clear as to when medical arrived. But 15 minutes after the initial call, fire and rescue requested an advanced life support unit and 22 minutes after that the ambulance was en route to the hospital. As for law enforcement, the sheriff arrived 15 minutes after the initial 911 call. 9 minutes later he calls for back up. Four minutes later the injury is identified as a gunshot wound and priority response is given.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

Sorry you had this happen at your school.

Why were you held hostage without bathrooms for 3 hours after the shooter had already been detained?

NP, I’m assuming that was a law enforcement decision.

My kid knows several kids at the school and was texting with them throughout. Word is the gun was not with the shooter when apprehended and they had to find the weapon and then clear the school for safety.

Because there was a police investigation going on. C’mon.

And then what?????? 3 hours of no bathrooms or food.

Understand there can be multiple shooters. Most Americans would benefit from 3 hours of no food. Would you rather have the police do a thorough investigation and have your family member alive?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t high schools have security guards?

They do, and there was one at Magruder when this happened. An SRO couldn’t have stopped this, just like the SROs in Parkland couldn’t stop the mass shooting there.

The SRO at Parkland was a coward. Broward County Sheriffs responders were cowards. The heroes were Coral Springs Police Dept. There were also many students and teachers that were heroes.

Broward County Sheriff's office as well as the school district knew Cruz was a problem for years. Due to restorative justice
in play in the school district not much could be done to Cruz prior to the shooting.

Getting rid of RJ would do a lot to prevent these shootings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

Sorry you had this happen at your school.

Why were you held hostage without bathrooms for 3 hours after the shooter had already been detained?

NP, I’m assuming that was a law enforcement decision.

My kid knows several kids at the school and was texting with them throughout. Word is the gun was not with the shooter when apprehended and they had to find the weapon and then clear the school for safety.

Because there was a police investigation going on. C’mon.

And then what?????? 3 hours of no bathrooms or food.

Understand there can be multiple shooters. Most Americans would benefit from 3 hours of no food. Would you rather have the police do a thorough investigation and have your family member alive?

I can’t believe people are complaining about 3 hours of no food.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t high schools have security guards?

They do, and there was one at Magruder when this happened. An SRO couldn’t have stopped this, just like the SROs in Parkland couldn’t stop the mass shooting there.

The SRO at Parkland was a coward. Broward County Sheriffs responders were cowards. The heroes were Coral Springs Police Dept. There were also many students and teachers that were heroes.

Broward County Sheriff's office as well as the school district knew Cruz was a problem for years. Due to restorative justice
in play in the school district not much could be done to Cruz prior to the shooting.

Getting rid of RJ would do a lot to prevent these shootings.

Yea it had nothing to with being orphaned and homeless teen.

1 cop should never go in after a shooter anyway, they are trained to go in in 3’s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I truly don’t understand why it took so long for a medical response for this young man. Did Magruder tell 911 that the student was shot?

Did EMS response take long? I thought the controversy was that they weren't sure of the method of injury and it took 28 minutes to call for law enforcement backup.

The initial call was for a possible stab wound. From the timelines I’ve seen it isn’t clear as to when medical arrived. But 15 minutes after the initial call, fire and rescue requested an advanced life support unit and 22 minutes after that the ambulance was en route to the hospital. As for law enforcement, the sheriff arrived 15 minutes after the initial 911 call. 9 minutes later he calls for back up. Four minutes later the injury is identified as a gunshot wound and priority response is given.

A child can die from a stab wound. What is an advance life support unit and why did it take a total of 37 minutes from the time of the 911 call till the time the ambulance was en route to the hospital?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

Sorry you had this happen at your school.

Why were you held hostage without bathrooms for 3 hours after the shooter had already been detained?

NP, I’m assuming that was a law enforcement decision.

My kid knows several kids at the school and was texting with them throughout. Word is the gun was not with the shooter when apprehended and they had to find the weapon and then clear the school for safety.

Because there was a police investigation going on. C’mon.

And then what?????? 3 hours of no bathrooms or food.

Understand there can be multiple shooters. Most Americans would benefit from 3 hours of no food. Would you rather have the police do a thorough investigation and have your family member alive?

I can’t believe people are complaining about 3 hours of no food.

Hi MCPS Employee,

Do you feel that what you are doing is constructive? Is this sort of activity part of your job description or do you do it on your own? Just asking.

Sincerely,

Concerned Parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I truly don’t understand why it took so long for a medical response for this young man. Did Magruder tell 911 that the student was shot?

Did EMS response take long? I thought the controversy was that they weren't sure of the method of injury and it took 28 minutes to call for law enforcement backup.

The initial call was for a possible stab wound. From the timelines I’ve seen it isn’t clear as to when medical arrived. But 15 minutes after the initial call, fire and rescue requested an advanced life support unit and 22 minutes after that the ambulance was en route to the hospital. As for law enforcement, the sheriff arrived 15 minutes after the initial 911 call. 9 minutes later he calls for back up. Four minutes later the injury is identified as a gunshot wound and priority response is given.

A child can die from a stab wound. What is an advance life support unit and why did it take a total of 37 minutes from the time of the 911 call till the time the ambulance was en route to the hospital?

That's one to take up with the County Council and Exec. Try as DCUM might to blame MCPS for all the ills of the world, MCPS doesn't run 911.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I truly don’t understand why it took so long for a medical response for this young man. Did Magruder tell 911 that the student was shot?

Did EMS response take long? I thought the controversy was that they weren't sure of the method of injury and it took 28 minutes to call for law enforcement backup.

The initial call was for a possible stab wound. From the timelines I’ve seen it isn’t clear as to when medical arrived. But 15 minutes after the initial call, fire and rescue requested an advanced life support unit and 22 minutes after that the ambulance was en route to the hospital. As for law enforcement, the sheriff arrived 15 minutes after the initial 911 call. 9 minutes later he calls for back up. Four minutes later the injury is identified as a gunshot wound and priority response is given.

A child can die from a stab wound. What is an advance life support unit and why did it take a total of 37 minutes from the time of the 911 call till the time the ambulance was en route to the hospital?

A child can die if the person who places the call is not conveying the life and death urgency of the situation.
That's one to take up with the County Council and Exec. Try as DCUM might to blame MCPS for all the ills of the world, MCPS doesn't run 911.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I truly don’t understand why it took so long for a medical response for this young man. Did Magruder tell 911 that the student was shot?

Did EMS response take long? I thought the controversy was that they weren't sure of the method of injury and it took 28 minutes to call for law enforcement backup.

The initial call was for a possible stab wound. From the timelines I’ve seen it isn’t clear as to when medical arrived. But 15 minutes after the initial call, fire and rescue requested an advanced life support unit and 22 minutes after that the ambulance was en route to the hospital. As for law enforcement, the sheriff arrived 15 minutes after the initial 911 call. 9 minutes later he calls for back up. Four minutes later the injury is identified as a gunshot wound and priority response is given.

A child can die from a stab wound. What is an advance life support unit and why did it take a total of 37 minutes from the time of the 911 call till the time the ambulance was en route to the hospital?

That's one to take up with the County Council and Exec. Try as DCUM might to blame MCPS for all the ills of the world, MCPS doesn't run 911.

A child can die if the 911 caller doesn’t convey the life and death urgency of the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I truly don’t understand why it took so long for a medical response for this young man. Did Magruder tell 911 that the student was shot?

Did EMS response take long? I thought the controversy was that they weren't sure of the method of injury and it took 28 minutes to call for law enforcement backup.

The initial call was for a possible stab wound. From the timelines I’ve seen it isn’t clear as to when medical arrived. But 15 minutes after the initial call, fire and rescue requested an advanced life support unit and 22 minutes after that the ambulance was en route to the hospital. As for law enforcement, the sheriff arrived 15 minutes after the initial 911 call. 9 minutes later he calls for back up. Four minutes later the injury is identified as a gunshot wound and priority response is given.

If this is true, that's really scary it took so long.