Magruder HS Shooting

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

Sorry you had this happen at your school.

Why were you held hostage without bathrooms for 3 hours after the shooter had already been detained?

NP, I’m assuming that was a law enforcement decision.

My kid knows several kids at the school and was texting with them throughout. Word is the gun was not with the shooter when apprehended and they had to find the weapon and then clear the school for safety.

Because there was a police investigation going on. C’mon.

And then what?????? 3 hours of no bathrooms or food.

Understand there can be multiple shooters. Most Americans would benefit from 3 hours of no food. Would you rather have the police do a thorough investigation and have your family member alive?

I can’t believe people are complaining about 3 hours of no food.

Some kids have health issues where they have to eat. They should have let the kids go to the bathroom and dropped off water/snacks to the classrooms.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

Sorry you had this happen at your school.

Why were you held hostage without bathrooms for 3 hours after the shooter had already been detained?

NP, I’m assuming that was a law enforcement decision.

My kid knows several kids at the school and was texting with them throughout. Word is the gun was not with the shooter when apprehended and they had to find the weapon and then clear the school for safety.

Because there was a police investigation going on. C’mon.

And then what?????? 3 hours of no bathrooms or food.

Understand there can be multiple shooters. Most Americans would benefit from 3 hours of no food. Would you rather have the police do a thorough investigation and have your family member alive?

I can’t believe people are complaining about 3 hours of no food.

Some kids have health issues where they have to eat. They should have let the kids go to the bathroom and dropped off water/snacks to the classrooms.

Your kids would never have survived from 1900 - 1960. Families ate three times a day at meals. That was it. The snacking culture of today did not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

Sorry you had this happen at your school.

Why were you held hostage without bathrooms for 3 hours after the shooter had already been detained?

NP, I’m assuming that was a law enforcement decision.

My kid knows several kids at the school and was texting with them throughout. Word is the gun was not with the shooter when apprehended and they had to find the weapon and then clear the school for safety.

Because there was a police investigation going on. C’mon.

And then what?????? 3 hours of no bathrooms or food.

Understand there can be multiple shooters. Most Americans would benefit from 3 hours of no food. Would you rather have the police do a thorough investigation and have your family member alive?

I can’t believe people are complaining about 3 hours of no food.

Some kids have health issues where they have to eat. They should have let the kids go to the bathroom and dropped off water/snacks to the classrooms.

Your kids would never have survived from 1900 - 1960. Families ate three times a day at meals. That was it. The snacking culture of today did not exist.

You’re off topic but also wrong. My grandmother always insisted we have an after school snack. And she also believed bedtime cookies and milk were Ed’s eti to good sleep. She was born in the 19th century a d her views were common in the first half of the twentieth century and up through probably the 80. I started school in the 70s and we all brought morning snack.
But the real issue here is that the kids were in those rooms for five hours without good information—scared, hungry and needing to pee. My kid would have had a full on anxiety attack. I bet a bunch did. I feel bad for them and their teachers. I still don’t know why they didn’t start releasing classrooms once they had the kid in custody.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

Sorry you had this happen at your school.

Why were you held hostage without bathrooms for 3 hours after the shooter had already been detained?

NP, I’m assuming that was a law enforcement decision.

My kid knows several kids at the school and was texting with them throughout. Word is the gun was not with the shooter when apprehended and they had to find the weapon and then clear the school for safety.

Because there was a police investigation going on. C’mon.

And then what?????? 3 hours of no bathrooms or food.

Understand there can be multiple shooters. Most Americans would benefit from 3 hours of no food. Would you rather have the police do a thorough investigation and have your family member alive?

I can’t believe people are complaining about 3 hours of no food.

Some kids have health issues where they have to eat. They should have let the kids go to the bathroom and dropped off water/snacks to the classrooms.

Your kids would never have survived from 1900 - 1960. Families ate three times a day at meals. That was it. The snacking culture of today did not exist.

It depending on your family. In my Jewish family you eat when you want and snacks are fine. It is normal to have an after school snack.

[Anonymous]

Even before the pandemic I was confounded that everyone packed entire picnics of goldfish crackers and water (never juice! Juice? The humanity!) To go to the playground five blocks away. I was always the mom who forgot, being as I fed my child before we left.

I guess at least we walked those five blocks because we lived in the city. Here, I expect you all drove in your range rovers with entire cases of bottled water and freeze-dried mango slices from Costco in the back.

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Anonymous wrote:Even before the pandemic I was confounded that everyone packed entire picnics of goldfish crackers and water (never juice! Juice? The humanity!) To go to the playground five blocks away. I was always the mom who forgot, being as I fed my child before we left.

I guess at least we walked those five blocks because we lived in the city. Here, I expect you all drove in your range rovers with entire cases of bottled water and freeze-dried mango slices from Costco in the back.

There is a big difference between city life and suburban life. You sound lazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Even before the pandemic I was confounded that everyone packed entire picnics of goldfish crackers and water (never juice! Juice? The humanity!) To go to the playground five blocks away. I was always the mom who forgot, being as I fed my child before we left.

I guess at least we walked those five blocks because we lived in the city. Here, I expect you all drove in your range rovers with entire cases of bottled water and freeze-dried mango slices from Costco in the back.

There is a big difference between city life and suburban life. You sound lazy.

How on earth does she sound lazy?
Some you people are off your rockers.
3 hours without a friggin snack is the least of our worries here.

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Anonymous wrote:Even before the pandemic I was confounded that everyone packed entire picnics of goldfish crackers and water (never juice! Juice? The humanity!) To go to the playground five blocks away. I was always the mom who forgot, being as I fed my child before we left.

I guess at least we walked those five blocks because we lived in the city. Here, I expect you all drove in your range rovers with entire cases of bottled water and freeze-dried mango slices from Costco in the back.

There is a big difference between city life and suburban life. You sound lazy.

How on earth does she sound lazy?
Some you people are off your rockers.
3 hours without a friggin snack is the least of our worries here.

Biggest concern is the inability of so many MCPS grads to count.

Magruder students and teachers were in lockdown for 5 1/2 hours without food or bathroom access.

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Anonymous wrote:Metal detectors and/or x-ray machines make sense at this point as well as having a police presence. It absolutely can work. And, being held accountable. RJ may work for the K-5 crowd, but come MS and HS you know better and need consequences. If my kid is bullied, no way I'd agree to them setting down with the bully to talk it out. These bullies don't care nor do their parents. They probably learned to be bullies from the parents.

I think dogs would work better guns and drugs

Except some kids are scared or allergic to dogs.

Who cares, more are scared of cops.

Wouldn't it be better to have those kids learn to bond with an SRO in a school setting, thereby reducing their fear of cops in the real world?

Not all cops are bad or racist. I mean.. there are black and brown cops, too. You can have black/brown SROs in majority minority schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Metal detectors and/or x-ray machines make sense at this point as well as having a police presence. It absolutely can work. And, being held accountable. RJ may work for the K-5 crowd, but come MS and HS you know better and need consequences. If my kid is bullied, no way I'd agree to them setting down with the bully to talk it out. These bullies don't care nor do their parents. They probably learned to be bullies from the parents.

I think dogs would work better guns and drugs

Except some kids are scared or allergic to dogs.

Who cares, more are scared of cops.

Wouldn't it be better to have those kids learn to bond with an SRO in a school setting, thereby reducing their fear of cops in the real world?

Not all cops are bad or racist. I mean.. there are black and brown cops, too. You can have black/brown SROs in majority minority schools.

Most are not racist. Most are not bad. By far. But the media covers the Low-Probability High-Consequence events like officer-involved shootings more than anything else. Because it sells.

Not saying that policing doesn't have to be improved -- it does. But people should be focusing on systemic causes, not individual officer causes. And community engagement in a non-enforcement setting is a best practice. Which is exactly what good SRO programs do.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly don’t understand why it took so long for a medical response for this young man. Did Magruder tell 911 that the student was shot?

Did EMS response take long? I thought the controversy was that they weren't sure of the method of injury and it took 28 minutes to call for law enforcement backup.

The initial call was for a possible stab wound. From the timelines I’ve seen it isn’t clear as to when medical arrived. But 15 minutes after the initial call, fire and rescue requested an advanced life support unit and 22 minutes after that the ambulance was en route to the hospital. As for law enforcement, the sheriff arrived 15 minutes after the initial 911 call. 9 minutes later he calls for back up. Four minutes later the injury is identified as a gunshot wound and priority response is given.

A child can die from a stab wound. What is an advance life support unit and why did it take a total of 37 minutes from the time of the 911 call till the time the ambulance was en route to the hospital?

Why was EMS told to come w/o siren? Why not medivac?

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Anonymous wrote:I truly don’t understand why it took so long for a medical response for this young man. Did Magruder tell 911 that the student was shot?

Did EMS response take long? I thought the controversy was that they weren't sure of the method of injury and it took 28 minutes to call for law enforcement backup.

The initial call was for a possible stab wound. From the timelines I’ve seen it isn’t clear as to when medical arrived. But 15 minutes after the initial call, fire and rescue requested an advanced life support unit and 22 minutes after that the ambulance was en route to the hospital. As for law enforcement, the sheriff arrived 15 minutes after the initial 911 call. 9 minutes later he calls for back up. Four minutes later the injury is identified as a gunshot wound and priority response is given.

A child can die from a stab wound. What is an advance life support unit and why did it take a total of 37 minutes from the time of the 911 call till the time the ambulance was en route to the hospital?

Why did MCPS request no siren for the ambulance?
That's one to take up with the County Council and Exec. Try as DCUM might to blame MCPS for all the ills of the world, MCPS doesn't run 911.

A child can die if the 911 caller doesn’t convey the life and death urgency of the situation.

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Argh, messed up quote.

WHY did MCPS request no siren for the ambulance?

Is the 911 call available?

The delay certainly did not help this kid's chances. That he is not doing better this far out is not good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even before the pandemic I was confounded that everyone packed entire picnics of goldfish crackers and water (never juice! Juice? The humanity!) To go to the playground five blocks away. I was always the mom who forgot, being as I fed my child before we left.

I guess at least we walked those five blocks because we lived in the city. Here, I expect you all drove in your range rovers with entire cases of bottled water and freeze-dried mango slices from Costco in the back.

There is a big difference between city life and suburban life. You sound lazy.

How on earth does she sound lazy?
Some you people are off your rockers.
3 hours without a friggin snack is the least of our worries here.

Biggest concern is the inability of so many MCPS grads to count.

Magruder students and teachers were in lockdown for 5 1/2 hours without food or bathroom access.

+100. I find it a bizarre past-time of people to try to diminish others experiences. Certainly many people at Magruder had no problems, but the others tell a different story. The idea that someone that does not know these kids, does not know and could not know what they experienced, would intentionally try to diminish their personal testimony seems like a serious character flaw.

[Anonymous]

The kids were in lockdown because of an ACTIVE SHOOTER in the school. There are no bathroom breaks and time to distribute snacks when SWAT is preparing to find the shooter. What planet are you from?