Husband leaves room to talk to MIL

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have siblings OP? Do you not do things just with them?

My sisters and I and our mom sometimes have lunch and dinner together no husbands.

Husbands also can their moms and talk privately and visit them without the wives.

Yes i have one younger brother. Yes it's one thing having lunch or sinner together but his mom specifically singled me out and is making this a reoccurring every other Friday night thing. This isn't a hey I live far away I havent seen you in a while I wanna catch up just you. This is a explicit let's exclude your wife from a family dinner every other Friday. Didn't she ever stop and think her son may want to be with his wife on friday nights and not leave her? Also Friday night is date night. I feel like a doormat if I just constantly accept this treatment of exclusion. Like okay honey go out again while they all exclude me. To me it feels like they are saying she isn't "real" family so she gets left out. What happens when we have kids? Am I going to be expected to just sit back and be left alone with the kids and no help every other Friday while my husband goes back to his family of origin or will I suddenly be deemed good enough to come because I bore grandchildren for my MIL?

If your replies here are an indication of how you behave with them I can see why they don't want you to come.

You never answered any of my questions though. What about if we have kids? What about MIL not stopping to think maybe her son doesn't want to leave his wife every other Friday. There is no consideration by mil for my feelings at all. Or maybe I respond like this because they exclude me. C'mon I can't take 100% of the blame here. If I posted as my MIL here I can guarantee the responses would not be supporting me but instead saying you can't expect your son to leave his wife out of family conversations and they are married you can't exclude his wife every other weekend she is his main family

I did answer your question. You sound like a nightmare, and make it difficult for your husband to have a relationship with his family. I suspect that you talk over him and answer for him.

They realize he's in an abusive relationship, but don't know how to deal with it.

What do you mean by I talk over him and answer for him? Please explain what you mean. Did you ever think maybe my in laws excluding me is the reason for my behavior? I don't know why all the blame automatically lies on me you aren't there so you can't act like they are 100% innocent while im 100% wrong. Growing up my parents were never left out of family functions with in laws on either side.

I already gave some specific examples of ways his family excludes me. It isn't a one off thing. It is constant. MIL has never invited just me out for a girls day or made me feel welcome like the bday thing for example. This just isn't a normal way for a MIL to make a DIL feel welcome into the family by acting like her family of origin hasn't grown and that her son doesn't have a family of his own. In marriage you leave and cleave and forsake all others. If this was a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship of 2 years then yes it would be out of line to expect this but that is what makes a marriage different than that is you are now family.

Again like I mentioned before somehow I think once my husband and I have children MIL is the type of person who will suddenly want me around because I would have provided her with grandchildren. But I can guarantee one thing if she can't respect and include me now then those grandchildren won't be coming around her.

I refuse to bring my children around toxic people family or not who don't respect me and my role in my husband's life. I am more than an incubator and I'm not going to play the fool. If I'm not good enough to be included in their little family now I'm not good enough once I have children. So really mil is shooting herself in the foot. Seeing grandchildren as far as I'm concerned is a privilege not a right.

You sound nuttier and nuttier with each post. Please don't have children. Although hopefully your DH will have divorced you before then. Reread your post, you're going to keep your children away from THEIR GRANDMOTHER because she doesn't take you out for spa days, she wants one on one time with her son, and her son talks to her privately. If you really don't want your kid around toxic people, don't have them. While I don't think you share 100% of the blame, you do seem to be overreacting, overreaching, and unabl eto see things beyond black and white. Please get help.

This isn't just once in a while. If you read my post correctly you would have seen I said every other Friday she expects him to drop everything leave me at home and have dinner with her. That's pretty often to leave out his wife. This isn't alone time it's with his sister his dad its basically saying twice a month they are going to have the whole family out to dinner and recreate the family of origin while excluding me. Yes that's hurtful. I wouldn't let her grandchildren see her I said not because she doesn't take me out for spa days and whatnot but because she excluded their mother from family events and doesn't respect my role as wife. Once you marry your spouse becomes the most important person and they come first. I just don't see many grown men spending one on one time with their mother especially leaving out their wife.

Like I stated she is the type once I provide her with grandchildren she will suddenly include me more which shows she only sees me as an incubator for her grandchildren. Does your husband's mother ever call him up and say she just wants him to come for lunch or dinner and not you?

If she wants alone time with her son howcome she doesn't even want alone time with her DIL?

Why is all the blame on your MIL? Your husband seems to happily go along with "excluding you" or whatever you want to call it. he is the one leaving you every other Friday. he's not the one standing up to his mom and wanting to include you. he's the one who is still agreeing to go see them even though they don't invite you. You've got a problem with you and DH. And I bet a lot of it stems from what appears to be a very difficult personality coming from you. You don't sound like the person people would want to include in any of these things. So maybe have a discussion with your husband. But change your attitude. You come at him like you've come at everyone here and you're quickly going to be dealing with a divorce attorney.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you expect your MIL to throw you a birthday party?

Wow way to twist my words. I never said I expected my MIL to throw me a bday party I said I want acknowledgement of my bday that's a far cry from saying I want a bday party. Acknowledgement could be anything from a text to a card. Yes if every other member even extended family such as nieces and nephews that she sees literally once a year get acknowledged then I feel I should be too. You treat family as equal not just leaving out one member. My mom always texts my husband and even sends a gift on his bday. I don't even expect a gift just a freaking text or a card

Don't try your manipulative games with me sweetie. You have spent several posts whining about your MIL not celebrating your birthday.

Going to take a wild guess but her nieces and nephews are probably under 18.

Do you call her to wish her happy birthday or send her a text?

LOL not being manipulative never said i expected a freaking bday party. Yes i already mentioned in another response I text her and send a gift on her bday. Which shows clearly you weren't reading my responses which I guess explains why you thought I wanted a bday party thrown for me. Nope her nieces and nephews are all 20+

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OP does your husband have red hair and do you guys really have an 11 month old named Archie and is your MILs name Elizabeth??? Hmmmmm

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have siblings OP? Do you not do things just with them?

My sisters and I and our mom sometimes have lunch and dinner together no husbands.

Husbands also can their moms and talk privately and visit them without the wives.

Yes i have one younger brother. Yes it's one thing having lunch or sinner together but his mom specifically singled me out and is making this a reoccurring every other Friday night thing. This isn't a hey I live far away I havent seen you in a while I wanna catch up just you. This is a explicit let's exclude your wife from a family dinner every other Friday. Didn't she ever stop and think her son may want to be with his wife on friday nights and not leave her? Also Friday night is date night. I feel like a doormat if I just constantly accept this treatment of exclusion. Like okay honey go out again while they all exclude me. To me it feels like they are saying she isn't "real" family so she gets left out. What happens when we have kids? Am I going to be expected to just sit back and be left alone with the kids and no help every other Friday while my husband goes back to his family of origin or will I suddenly be deemed good enough to come because I bore grandchildren for my MIL?

If your replies here are an indication of how you behave with them I can see why they don't want you to come.

You never answered any of my questions though. What about if we have kids? What about MIL not stopping to think maybe her son doesn't want to leave his wife every other Friday. There is no consideration by mil for my feelings at all. Or maybe I respond like this because they exclude me. C'mon I can't take 100% of the blame here. If I posted as my MIL here I can guarantee the responses would not be supporting me but instead saying you can't expect your son to leave his wife out of family conversations and they are married you can't exclude his wife every other weekend she is his main family

I did answer your question. You sound like a nightmare, and make it difficult for your husband to have a relationship with his family. I suspect that you talk over him and answer for him.

They realize he's in an abusive relationship, but don't know how to deal with it.

What do you mean by I talk over him and answer for him? Please explain what you mean. Did you ever think maybe my in laws excluding me is the reason for my behavior? I don't know why all the blame automatically lies on me you aren't there so you can't act like they are 100% innocent while im 100% wrong. Growing up my parents were never left out of family functions with in laws on either side.

I already gave some specific examples of ways his family excludes me. It isn't a one off thing. It is constant. MIL has never invited just me out for a girls day or made me feel welcome like the bday thing for example. This just isn't a normal way for a MIL to make a DIL feel welcome into the family by acting like her family of origin hasn't grown and that her son doesn't have a family of his own. In marriage you leave and cleave and forsake all others. If this was a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship of 2 years then yes it would be out of line to expect this but that is what makes a marriage different than that is you are now family.

Again like I mentioned before somehow I think once my husband and I have children MIL is the type of person who will suddenly want me around because I would have provided her with grandchildren. But I can guarantee one thing if she can't respect and include me now then those grandchildren won't be coming around her.

I refuse to bring my children around toxic people family or not who don't respect me and my role in my husband's life. I am more than an incubator and I'm not going to play the fool. If I'm not good enough to be included in their little family now I'm not good enough once I have children. So really mil is shooting herself in the foot. Seeing grandchildren as far as I'm concerned is a privilege not a right.

You sound nuttier and nuttier with each post. Please don't have children. Although hopefully your DH will have divorced you before then. Reread your post, you're going to keep your children away from THEIR GRANDMOTHER because she doesn't take you out for spa days, she wants one on one time with her son, and her son talks to her privately. If you really don't want your kid around toxic people, don't have them. While I don't think you share 100% of the blame, you do seem to be overreacting, overreaching, and unabl eto see things beyond black and white. Please get help.

This isn't just once in a while. If you read my post correctly you would have seen I said every other Friday she expects him to drop everything leave me at home and have dinner with her. That's pretty often to leave out his wife. This isn't alone time it's with his sister his dad its basically saying twice a month they are going to have the whole family out to dinner and recreate the family of origin while excluding me. Yes that's hurtful. I wouldn't let her grandchildren see her I said not because she doesn't take me out for spa days and whatnot but because she excluded their mother from family events and doesn't respect my role as wife. Once you marry your spouse becomes the most important person and they come first. I just don't see many grown men spending one on one time with their mother especially leaving out their wife.

Like I stated she is the type once I provide her with grandchildren she will suddenly include me more which shows she only sees me as an incubator for her grandchildren. Does your husband's mother ever call him up and say she just wants him to come for lunch or dinner and not you?

If she wants alone time with her son howcome she doesn't even want alone time with her DIL?

NP here,

Do you have any close friends who are married?

Do they all have 1:1 time with their MIL? Spa days etc?

I'm not sure it hasn't come up in convo. But I do know my friend's in laws wouldn't leave them out of family functions. I also know they wouldn't tolerate that either. In my circle once you are married you are considered part of the family and are invited on family vacay, family get togethers and family dinners... My brother is married and my mom wouldn't dream of having a full family get together and specifically telling him his wife wasn't welcome and if she did I would tell her she was nuts and to not get upset when my brother backs out.

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OP, there is a reason that they don't want to invite you. and there is a reason that DH doesn't seem to care that you're not invited either. Time to have a good hard look at what those reasons may be. *hint, if you're anything like you are on here IRL, that's the reason *

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have siblings OP? Do you not do things just with them?

My sisters and I and our mom sometimes have lunch and dinner together no husbands.

Husbands also can their moms and talk privately and visit them without the wives.

Yes i have one younger brother. Yes it's one thing having lunch or sinner together but his mom specifically singled me out and is making this a reoccurring every other Friday night thing. This isn't a hey I live far away I havent seen you in a while I wanna catch up just you. This is a explicit let's exclude your wife from a family dinner every other Friday. Didn't she ever stop and think her son may want to be with his wife on friday nights and not leave her? Also Friday night is date night. I feel like a doormat if I just constantly accept this treatment of exclusion. Like okay honey go out again while they all exclude me. To me it feels like they are saying she isn't "real" family so she gets left out. What happens when we have kids? Am I going to be expected to just sit back and be left alone with the kids and no help every other Friday while my husband goes back to his family of origin or will I suddenly be deemed good enough to come because I bore grandchildren for my MIL?

If your replies here are an indication of how you behave with them I can see why they don't want you to come.

You never answered any of my questions though. What about if we have kids? What about MIL not stopping to think maybe her son doesn't want to leave his wife every other Friday. There is no consideration by mil for my feelings at all. Or maybe I respond like this because they exclude me. C'mon I can't take 100% of the blame here. If I posted as my MIL here I can guarantee the responses would not be supporting me but instead saying you can't expect your son to leave his wife out of family conversations and they are married you can't exclude his wife every other weekend she is his main family

I did answer your question. You sound like a nightmare, and make it difficult for your husband to have a relationship with his family. I suspect that you talk over him and answer for him.

They realize he's in an abusive relationship, but don't know how to deal with it.

What do you mean by I talk over him and answer for him? Please explain what you mean. Did you ever think maybe my in laws excluding me is the reason for my behavior? I don't know why all the blame automatically lies on me you aren't there so you can't act like they are 100% innocent while im 100% wrong. Growing up my parents were never left out of family functions with in laws on either side.

I already gave some specific examples of ways his family excludes me. It isn't a one off thing. It is constant. MIL has never invited just me out for a girls day or made me feel welcome like the bday thing for example. This just isn't a normal way for a MIL to make a DIL feel welcome into the family by acting like her family of origin hasn't grown and that her son doesn't have a family of his own. In marriage you leave and cleave and forsake all others. If this was a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship of 2 years then yes it would be out of line to expect this but that is what makes a marriage different than that is you are now family.

Again like I mentioned before somehow I think once my husband and I have children MIL is the type of person who will suddenly want me around because I would have provided her with grandchildren. But I can guarantee one thing if she can't respect and include me now then those grandchildren won't be coming around her.

I refuse to bring my children around toxic people family or not who don't respect me and my role in my husband's life. I am more than an incubator and I'm not going to play the fool. If I'm not good enough to be included in their little family now I'm not good enough once I have children. So really mil is shooting herself in the foot. Seeing grandchildren as far as I'm concerned is a privilege not a right.

You sound nuttier and nuttier with each post. Please don't have children. Although hopefully your DH will have divorced you before then. Reread your post, you're going to keep your children away from THEIR GRANDMOTHER because she doesn't take you out for spa days, she wants one on one time with her son, and her son talks to her privately. If you really don't want your kid around toxic people, don't have them. While I don't think you share 100% of the blame, you do seem to be overreacting, overreaching, and unabl eto see things beyond black and white. Please get help.

This isn't just once in a while. If you read my post correctly you would have seen I said every other Friday she expects him to drop everything leave me at home and have dinner with her. That's pretty often to leave out his wife. This isn't alone time it's with his sister his dad its basically saying twice a month they are going to have the whole family out to dinner and recreate the family of origin while excluding me. Yes that's hurtful. I wouldn't let her grandchildren see her I said not because she doesn't take me out for spa days and whatnot but because she excluded their mother from family events and doesn't respect my role as wife. Once you marry your spouse becomes the most important person and they come first. I just don't see many grown men spending one on one time with their mother especially leaving out their wife.

Like I stated she is the type once I provide her with grandchildren she will suddenly include me more which shows she only sees me as an incubator for her grandchildren. Does your husband's mother ever call him up and say she just wants him to come for lunch or dinner and not you?

If she wants alone time with her son howcome she doesn't even want alone time with her DIL?

NP here,

Do you have any close friends who are married?

Do they all have 1:1 time with their MIL? Spa days etc?

I'm not sure it hasn't come up in convo. But I do know my friend's in laws wouldn't leave them out of family functions. I also know they wouldn't tolerate that either. In my circle once you are married you are considered part of the family and are invited on family vacay, family get togethers and family dinners... My brother is married and my mom wouldn't dream of having a full family get together and specifically telling him his wife wasn't welcome and if she did I would tell her she was nuts and to not get upset when my brother backs out.

That's not what I asked you.

You in fact don't know the answer to the question I asked you.

Yet again you demonstrate to evaluate anything outside of your perspective of what is right.

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You have a bizarre obsession with your mom OP.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, there is a reason that they don't want to invite you. and there is a reason that DH doesn't seem to care that you're not invited either. Time to have a good hard look at what those reasons may be. *hint, if you're anything like you are on here IRL, that's the reason *

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you expect your MIL to throw you a birthday party?

Wow way to twist my words. I never said I expected my MIL to throw me a bday party I said I want acknowledgement of my bday that's a far cry from saying I want a bday party. Acknowledgement could be anything from a text to a card. Yes if every other member even extended family such as nieces and nephews that she sees literally once a year get acknowledged then I feel I should be too. You treat family as equal not just leaving out one member. My mom always texts my husband and even sends a gift on his bday. I don't even expect a gift just a freaking text or a card

Don't try your manipulative games with me sweetie. You have spent several posts whining about your MIL not celebrating your birthday.

Going to take a wild guess but her nieces and nephews are probably under 18.

Do you call her to wish her happy birthday or send her a text?

LOL not being manipulative never said i expected a freaking bday party. Yes i already mentioned in another response I text her and send a gift on her bday. Which shows clearly you weren't reading my responses which I guess explains why you thought I wanted a bday party thrown for me. Nope her nieces and nephews are all 20+

There's that nasty attitude. You really don't like being questioned.

No I don't believe you did say you called her or gave her birthday gifts.

If the nieces and nephews are 20 + I'm guessing you're 30 to 40 and thus way too old to care about petty things like who texts you for your birthday.

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Anonymous wrote:OP does your husband have red hair and do you guys really have an 11 month old named Archie and is your MILs name Elizabeth??? Hmmmmm

OP does seem to believe she's a princess so...

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I see many mothers having inappropriate relationships with their boys. Fathers recognize this, but are scared to say anything, but they MUST speak up.

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I see many mothers having inappropriate relationships with their boys. Fathers recognize this, but are scared to say anything, but they MUST speak up.

Get some rest OP.

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I see many mothers having inappropriate relationships with their boys. Fathers recognize this, but are scared to say anything, but they MUST speak up.

Get some rest OP.

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Seriously! Take a few gulps of NyQuil and go to bed.

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Y'all are being trolled me thinks

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soexcited123 wrote:My husband and I have been married for 2 years now. We dated 8 years before that and lived together for 5 years. Each time his mother calls he leaves the room. I find that odd. I would totally get it if we had company over because it could be loud in that case but we don't have any children it's literally just me. My one friend thinks it could be that he wants to confide in private about something to his mom. But what would a grown man want to tell mommy that they couldn't tell their own wife? If his was telling his mom things about himself he couldn't tell his own wife I wouldnquestion his trust in me and I would think we would have communication issues. Help me figure this out because IMO you should be able to feel 1000% comfortable in front of your own spouse.

This is your typical inappropriate mother son relationship. Beware, OP, if you have your own son some day.

Yeah I pretty much told him it was weird he feels the need to keep convos between him and his mom secret. I feel a certain type of way.

His mother has been fostering this since he was born. He doesn't know anything else. This is not good for your marriage. You are basically is a three-way relationship. Do you have children?

Let him have a relationship with his mother independent of you. Stop being so needy.