SAHM shaming

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

[Anonymous]

I've been a SAHM for ten years and no one has ever once said anything rude or derogatory about it to my face.

I only know people think like that from reading threads on here. But I've never encountered it in person.

Fwiw, I have a master's degree and worked for a year after having my first baby to try it out and see if it was for me. My husband and I decided together that it wasn't the right fit for our family.

When people ask and I answer, they usually say something positive like how fortunate I am to get to see my kids grow up and how fast it goes, etc.

[Anonymous]

Why do people assume you have to actually use your degree to make money for it to be worth it? What about just knowledge for the sake of knowledge? Or using the tools you gained (such as the ability to think critically) in life generally?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I am not the PP who asked, but I don't think those questions warranted anywhere near the level of panicky response shown by the lady who posted the links (whose husband works for more hours than the PP who asked those questions).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I'm the one who posted the original question. I'm rich.
And of course PP, she'd never send her husband any of those articles - because it's ok for men to live to work. But her husband doesn't... etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I am not the PP who asked, but I don't think those questions warranted anywhere near the level of panicky response shown by the lady who posted the links (whose husband works for more hours than the PP who asked those questions).

PP here.

I wish you would exit the thread because you are clearly jealous of that poster and keep side lining the conversation with jabs at her.

You don't like her. You're jealous of her million dollar lifestyle funded by a guy who works 40-50 hours remotely. WE GET IT.

(side note: do you know how sweet that set up is? unless you inherit mega wealth or make out like a bandit in a start up that goes public, you'd be a fool to turn it down).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I am not the PP who asked, but I don't think those questions warranted anywhere near the level of panicky response shown by the lady who posted the links (whose husband works for more hours than the PP who asked those questions).

PP here.

I wish you would exit the thread because you are clearly jealous of that poster and keep side lining the conversation with jabs at her.

You don't like her. You're jealous of her million dollar lifestyle funded by a guy who works 40-50 hours remotely. WE GET IT.

(side note: do you know how sweet that set up is? unless you inherit mega wealth or make out like a bandit in a start up that goes public, you'd be a fool to turn it down).

This is what you're missing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I'm the one who posted the original question. I'm rich.
And of course PP, she'd never send her husband any of those articles - because it's ok for men to live to work. But her husband doesn't... etc.

She said she did send those articles to her husband. Did you even read the thread?

And if you're rich and only work 30 hours a week, then you must agree with her overall premise that in general, American capitalists are trying to turn work into some desirable goal. "Rise and grind," "hustle harder," #hustle, #thankgoditsmonday #dowhatyoulove

It's gross. It's people with capital taking advantage of people without and trying to squeeze extra work out of them for no pay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I am not the PP who asked, but I don't think those questions warranted anywhere near the level of panicky response shown by the lady who posted the links (whose husband works for more hours than the PP who asked those questions).

PP here.

I wish you would exit the thread because you are clearly jealous of that poster and keep side lining the conversation with jabs at her.

You don't like her. You're jealous of her million dollar lifestyle funded by a guy who works 40-50 hours remotely. WE GET IT.

(side note: do you know how sweet that set up is? unless you inherit mega wealth or make out like a bandit in a start up that goes public, you'd be a fool to turn it down).

This is what you're missing.

I'm not missing anything. It's entirely normal and appropriate for couples to think of themselves as a partnership or team that divides the work between them. If one person makes a lot of money, that frees up the other to take care of other things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I'm the one who posted the original question. I'm rich.
And of course PP, she'd never send her husband any of those articles - because it's ok for men to live to work. But her husband doesn't... etc.

Ok so you're not a workaholic.

You're an assh0le who asked a rude question.

Got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I am not the PP who asked, but I don't think those questions warranted anywhere near the level of panicky response shown by the lady who posted the links (whose husband works for more hours than the PP who asked those questions).

PP here.

I wish you would exit the thread because you are clearly jealous of that poster and keep side lining the conversation with jabs at her.

You don't like her. You're jealous of her million dollar lifestyle funded by a guy who works 40-50 hours remotely. WE GET IT.

(side note: do you know how sweet that set up is? unless you inherit mega wealth or make out like a bandit in a start up that goes public, you'd be a fool to turn it down).

No, let's be honest. You want me to leave the thread because you don't like the fact that multiple people are observing the insufferable misogynist hypocrisy of an entitled SAHM. I don't think SAHMs should be shamed (actually, I've been one, and for years, and likely will be one again soon), but spare me any sense of pity for somebody who posted and acted the way she did.

And as for jealousy, is that really your go-to response for defending appalling behavior? Is that what you teach your kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do people assume you have to actually use your degree to make money for it to be worth it? What about just knowledge for the sake of knowledge? Or using the tools you gained (such as the ability to think critically) in life generally?

+ 1

Yeah it's always said like this: don't you want to use your education?

You use it all the time just by being a thinking, feeling person in the world.

You can't extract a person's education from their identity.

It's a fundamental part of what makes that person who they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I'm the one who posted the original question. I'm rich.
And of course PP, she'd never send her husband any of those articles - because it's ok for men to live to work. But her husband doesn't... etc.

She said she did send those articles to her husband. Did you even read the thread?

And if you're rich and only work 30 hours a week, then you must agree with her overall premise that in general, American capitalists are trying to turn work into some desirable goal. "Rise and grind," "hustle harder," #hustle, #thankgoditsmonday #dowhatyoulove

It's gross. It's people with capital taking advantage of people without and trying to squeeze extra work out of them for no pay.

So I assume you think that PP's husband should quit, too, then? Or your husband?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I'm the one who posted the original question. I'm rich.
And of course PP, she'd never send her husband any of those articles - because it's ok for men to live to work. But her husband doesn't... etc.

Ok so you're not a workaholic.

You're an assh0le who asked a rude question.

Got it.

That STILL hasn't been answered. How triggered are you, girl?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rarely uncomfortable with people criticizing my SAHM status. In fact, I embrace it! If they ask what I do all day, I say I run errands, laundry, clean up a little bit, go to the gym, play a whole lot of tennis, cuddle with my dogs. Sometimes I’m nap, sometimes I read, go to lunch or coffee with my girlfriends (a mix of SAH and working moms), go on field trips and volunteer at school.

I don’t pretend that it’s the hardest job in the world and I’m not looking for praise from others. It is what it is and it works for my family. Other families are different and I respect that.

Totally serious question and I respect your answer. Are you OK with this as your life? Did you go to college? Do you have daughters and expect them to excel academically? What are your life goals?

Not everyone lives to work.

I can tell you're a workaholic whose identity is wrapped up in what they do for money. That's fine but, if you were truly as smart and perceptive as you think you are, you'd realize not everyone wants to live that way.

And don't bother responding back to deny your workaholism. I can tell because you seem unable to acknowledge why many people don't want to waste their one precious life in an office pushing paper.

It's fine if you feel purpose in what you do. But you can't even acknowledge that other people feel differently. That's a problem.

Read these first before responding.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/burnout-hustle-culture-gentrification-work.html

https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2019/jan/28/work-life-balance-thankgoditsmonday

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/

https://www.theatlantic.com/letters/archive/2019/03/readers-respond-workism-is-making-americans-miserable/584377/

NP. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. PP only asked a question - you're the one who seems to think it was loaded.

New poster.

how is the bolded not a loaded question?

I actually agree that any person who asks the question like that can't envision the obvious answer. Duh. It's because they're rich enough to pursue leisure and hobbies all day.

If you read the thread, this is pointed out to that poster NUMEROUS times and still she persists in pretending she doesn't understand.

So that poster is either a workaholic (someone who can't envision why others don't live to work) OR an assh0le.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I am not the PP who asked, but I don't think those questions warranted anywhere near the level of panicky response shown by the lady who posted the links (whose husband works for more hours than the PP who asked those questions).

PP here.

I wish you would exit the thread because you are clearly jealous of that poster and keep side lining the conversation with jabs at her.

You don't like her. You're jealous of her million dollar lifestyle funded by a guy who works 40-50 hours remotely. WE GET IT.

(side note: do you know how sweet that set up is? unless you inherit mega wealth or make out like a bandit in a start up that goes public, you'd be a fool to turn it down).

No, let's be honest. You want me to leave the thread because you don't like the fact that multiple people are observing the insufferable misogynist hypocrisy of an entitled SAHM. I don't think SAHMs should be shamed (actually, I've been one, and for years, and likely will be one again soon), but spare me any sense of pity for somebody who posted and acted the way she did.

And as for jealousy, is that really your go-to response for defending appalling behavior? Is that what you teach your kids?

I want you to leave the thread because you're making it about something that is different from the OP's topic of discussion.

It's not about any one poster. And yet all you do in here is post about her.

Who cares about what one anonymous person says on the Internet?

Get over it.