Nuns on a beach in France but burkinis are banned

Anonymous
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Ultimately, even though I'm not a big fan of women covering themselves head to toe, I do think it should be their choice. Feel the same way about believers in other sexist religions or ideologies. Their choice.

But if I am made to feel uncomfortable in a public place because I am a woman, I will be pissed. If my DD is, I will be absolutely livid. I have no tolerance for anyone making her feel second class because she's a girl.


Too late. HRC is like 15 points ahead of idiot Trump. Obama is pumping in tens of thousands of muslims before he leaves office. Liberturds never see the light. Lets all vote HRC so that these Muslim men can pretend to be transgendered women and go to the ladies room. Oh boy, what a great Country the Dems are giving us. Too many idiots in this Country are more concerned about electing a Dem, even a thieving one, that a bozo Trump. I say, lets elect someone that doesn't want us to look like France in 10 yrs. If you haven't lived in the Middle East like I have, and you vote HRC, hell yes .... You are an IDIOT


Dude, are you on Flakka or something?
Anonymous
No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear
Anonymous
I'm an atheist, I strongly dislike religion, especially islam. This law is stupid, discriminatory, appalling, and an infringement upon people's rights. It's not right at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear


Neither are French beach goers wearing burkinis. But if you persecute enough of them, probably one of their kids will get angry at government oppression and do something very bad in response. Because to them it is tyranny, and any sane person would fight tyranny.



Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear


Neither are French beach goers wearing burkinis. But if you persecute enough of them, probably one of their kids will get angry at government oppression and do something very bad in response. Because to them it is tyranny, and any sane person would fight tyranny.





And there is your problem with Islam. Europe has a mostly Christian history anyways bad has been widely secular for a long time. Most countries where Islamists come from still live in the past by 500 years. They haven't progressed.

Second, it's not tyranny. The Nuns aren't part of a religion that is bombing buses, shooting up soccer stadiums and mustering journalists
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear


Neither are French beach goers wearing burkinis. But if you persecute enough of them, probably one of their kids will get angry at government oppression and do something very bad in response. Because to them it is tyranny, and any sane person would fight tyranny.





And there is your problem with Islam. Europe has a mostly Christian history anyways bad has been widely secular for a long time. Most countries where Islamists come from still live in the past by 500 years. They haven't progressed.

Second, it's not tyranny. The Nuns aren't part of a religion that is bombing buses, shooting up soccer stadiums and mustering journalists

NP. It's tyranny because you have a gov't telling people what they can or cannot wear.

If a person *really* wanted to hurt people at the beach, there's nothing to stop them from wearing a nun's habit and hiding a gun or bomb under there. These extremists are known to try to blend in with the public.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear


Neither are French beach goers wearing burkinis. But if you persecute enough of them, probably one of their kids will get angry at government oppression and do something very bad in response. Because to them it is tyranny, and any sane person would fight tyranny.





And there is your problem with Islam. Europe has a mostly Christian history anyways bad has been widely secular for a long time. Most countries where Islamists come from still live in the past by 500 years. They haven't progressed.

Second, it's not tyranny. The Nuns aren't part of a religion that is bombing buses, shooting up soccer stadiums and mustering journalists

NP. It's tyranny because you have a gov't telling people what they can or cannot wear.

If a person *really* wanted to hurt people at the beach, there's nothing to stop them from wearing a nun's habit and hiding a gun or bomb under there. These extremists are known to try to blend in with the public.


8:33 Atheist poster here. This law is 100% wrong and discriminatory. I don't agree with full facial veil, but there's nothing wrong with what these ladies are wearing. It's also good protection from the sun. Like I said, I'm no fan of Islam, or any religion, but there's no good reason to ban these women from wearing these outfits. It could also rob them of their rights to use the public beach - whether it's their husband not letting them go because they can't cover, or whether they feel uncomfortable not being able to cover. 100% stupid and wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear


Neither are French beach goers wearing burkinis. But if you persecute enough of them, probably one of their kids will get angry at government oppression and do something very bad in response. Because to them it is tyranny, and any sane person would fight tyranny.





And there is your problem with Islam. Europe has a mostly Christian history anyways bad has been widely secular for a long time. Most countries where Islamists come from still live in the past by 500 years. They haven't progressed.

Second, it's not tyranny. The Nuns aren't part of a religion that is bombing buses, shooting up soccer stadiums and mustering journalists

NP. It's tyranny because you have a gov't telling people what they can or cannot wear.

If a person *really* wanted to hurt people at the beach, there's nothing to stop them from wearing a nun's habit and hiding a gun or bomb under there. These extremists are known to try to blend in with the public.


Not it's not. Do you have an issue when someone bans Baggie pants?

If someone wanted to hurt someone in the beach - like Islamic terrorists did in Algeria a few years ago at a beach resort killing a dozen or more - they would do it. You're right, but the last time Catholics shot uo a bunch of people on the beach was ....oh that's right...never
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear


Neither are French beach goers wearing burkinis. But if you persecute enough of them, probably one of their kids will get angry at government oppression and do something very bad in response. Because to them it is tyranny, and any sane person would fight tyranny.





And there is your problem with Islam. Europe has a mostly Christian history anyways bad has been widely secular for a long time. Most countries where Islamists come from still live in the past by 500 years. They haven't progressed.

Second, it's not tyranny. The Nuns aren't part of a religion that is bombing buses, shooting up soccer stadiums and mustering journalists

NP. It's tyranny because you have a gov't telling people what they can or cannot wear.

If a person *really* wanted to hurt people at the beach, there's nothing to stop them from wearing a nun's habit and hiding a gun or bomb under there. These extremists are known to try to blend in with the public.


8:33 Atheist poster here. This law is 100% wrong and discriminatory. I don't agree with full facial veil, but there's nothing wrong with what these ladies are wearing. It's also good protection from the sun. Like I said, I'm no fan of Islam, or any religion, but there's no good reason to ban these women from wearing these outfits. It could also rob them of their rights to use the public beach - whether it's their husband not letting them go because they can't cover, or whether they feel uncomfortable not being able to cover. 100% stupid and wrong.


There are beaches in their own countries or other places to go. They can go there.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear


Neither are French beach goers wearing burkinis. But if you persecute enough of them, probably one of their kids will get angry at government oppression and do something very bad in response. Because to them it is tyranny, and any sane person would fight tyranny.





And there is your problem with Islam. Europe has a mostly Christian history anyways bad has been widely secular for a long time. Most countries where Islamists come from still live in the past by 500 years. They haven't progressed.

Second, it's not tyranny. The Nuns aren't part of a religion that is bombing buses, shooting up soccer stadiums and mustering journalists

NP. It's tyranny because you have a gov't telling people what they can or cannot wear.

If a person *really* wanted to hurt people at the beach, there's nothing to stop them from wearing a nun's habit and hiding a gun or bomb under there. These extremists are known to try to blend in with the public.


Not it's not. Do you have an issue when someone bans Baggie pants?

If someone wanted to hurt someone in the beach - like Islamic terrorists did in Algeria a few years ago at a beach resort killing a dozen or more - they would do it. You're right, but the last time Catholics shot uo a bunch of people on the beach was ....oh that's right...never

Whether a catholic nun has ever bombed people is not the issue. The issue is about freedom to dress the way we want. If the issue is that they truly want to protect people in case someone tries to hide a bomb or gun under the burqa, then they should also ban the habit because a bomber could use a habit to accomplish the same thing. This shouldn't be about religion because in France, and is in the US, people have freedom of religion. Whether or not you like that religion is moot. People who are intent to hurt others is a different story, but not all Muslims are intent on hurting people. I'm sure you are aware of that fact.

Yes, I have an issue when they ban baggy pants in a public place. As long as it is decent, ie, covering up your bits, I don't really care what people wear. The ban is like the opposite of the morality fashion police - not showing enough skin. It's stupid.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear


Neither are French beach goers wearing burkinis. But if you persecute enough of them, probably one of their kids will get angry at government oppression and do something very bad in response. Because to them it is tyranny, and any sane person would fight tyranny.





And there is your problem with Islam. Europe has a mostly Christian history anyways bad has been widely secular for a long time. Most countries where Islamists come from still live in the past by 500 years. They haven't progressed.

Second, it's not tyranny. The Nuns aren't part of a religion that is bombing buses, shooting up soccer stadiums and mustering journalists

NP. It's tyranny because you have a gov't telling people what they can or cannot wear.

If a person *really* wanted to hurt people at the beach, there's nothing to stop them from wearing a nun's habit and hiding a gun or bomb under there. These extremists are known to try to blend in with the public.


8:33 Atheist poster here. This law is 100% wrong and discriminatory. I don't agree with full facial veil, but there's nothing wrong with what these ladies are wearing. It's also good protection from the sun. Like I said, I'm no fan of Islam, or any religion, but there's no good reason to ban these women from wearing these outfits. It could also rob them of their rights to use the public beach - whether it's their husband not letting them go because they can't cover, or whether they feel uncomfortable not being able to cover. 100% stupid and wrong.


There are beaches in their own countries or other places to go. They can go there.

You do know that some Muslims were actually born in that country, as well as in this country. You do know that there are some white and black American Muslims?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear


Neither are French beach goers wearing burkinis. But if you persecute enough of them, probably one of their kids will get angry at government oppression and do something very bad in response. Because to them it is tyranny, and any sane person would fight tyranny.





And there is your problem with Islam. Europe has a mostly Christian history anyways bad has been widely secular for a long time. Most countries where Islamists come from still live in the past by 500 years. They haven't progressed.

Second, it's not tyranny. The Nuns aren't part of a religion that is bombing buses, shooting up soccer stadiums and mustering journalists

NP. It's tyranny because you have a gov't telling people what they can or cannot wear.

If a person *really* wanted to hurt people at the beach, there's nothing to stop them from wearing a nun's habit and hiding a gun or bomb under there. These extremists are known to try to blend in with the public.

Below is the result of the law. On French beaches if you wear a tunic to protect yourself from the sun the police will show up and force you to remove some of your clothing and then fine you (for wearing an outfit not respecting good morals) because they think a tunic is a burka and a tichel is a hijab. Men of course can wear long sleeves shirts at the beach, just not woman.

A government forcing woman to disrobe in public and expose a certain percent of her arms and legs is as bad as the government that forces her to cover them up.


Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No issues here. The Nuns are going around bombing people and shooting up soccer stadiums. So I don't care what they wear


Neither are French beach goers wearing burkinis. But if you persecute enough of them, probably one of their kids will get angry at government oppression and do something very bad in response. Because to them it is tyranny, and any sane person would fight tyranny.





And there is your problem with Islam. Europe has a mostly Christian history anyways bad has been widely secular for a long time. Most countries where Islamists come from still live in the past by 500 years. They haven't progressed.

Second, it's not tyranny. The Nuns aren't part of a religion that is bombing buses, shooting up soccer stadiums and mustering journalists

NP. It's tyranny because you have a gov't telling people what they can or cannot wear.

If a person *really* wanted to hurt people at the beach, there's nothing to stop them from wearing a nun's habit and hiding a gun or bomb under there. These extremists are known to try to blend in with the public.

Below is the result of the law. On French beaches if you wear a tunic to protect yourself from the sun the police will show up and force you to remove some of your clothing and then fine you (for wearing an outfit not respecting good morals) because they think a tunic is a burka and a tichel is a hijab. Men of course can wear long sleeves shirts at the beach, just not woman.

A government forcing woman to disrobe in public and expose a certain percent of her arms and legs is as bad as the government that forces her to cover them up.



+1 this. Look at her, she's not even wearing a burqa or burkini. She has a headscarf (not illegal) and a shirt (also not illegal), but because she's wearing them together and she's a bit brown, it's a "danger" to the beach society. Unreal.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.


The Starbucks in the Burlington Coat Factory shopping center in Bailey's Crossroads has been taken over by Middle Eastern men who monopolize the tables both inside and outside. It is very uncomfortable even walking by them because of their nasty comments.


I'm quite sure you invited the comments based on your attitude.


That isn't fair- i am a hijab and burka wearing (ok h&m shirtdress over pants wearing) muslim of pakistani origin and those guys creep me out even though they are usually polite to me. I always wonder wether they'd be so smiling and polite if it wasn't for my clothing- they should behave that way to ALL women, ALL women are worthy of respect- my clothing choice is because i want to obey Gods commandments in the Quran, it doesn't say anywhere that only Muslim women should be respected. These men are terrible Muslims, tbh, like a pp most of the South Asian and Persian men, even from my fathers generation didn't act like these creeps.

I was recently listening to an Imam addressing this issue and he really went after the others of muslim boys who 'love' on their sons and train their daughters and tech their sons to disrespect women and won't give them equal chores in the house etc. . so it is really a Miiddle eastern problem- even the Christians from that area are like this.

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