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08/25/2016 14:20

Subject: Nuns on a beach in France but burkinis are banned

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Anonymous wrote:Hard partying convert who donned hijab and burka to kill all in a french building

http://nypost.com/2015/11/20/skanky-suicide-bomber-used-to-be-a-selfie-taking-party-animal/

You are a dummy, aren't you? She wasn't wearing a burka when she reportedly blew herself up. (By the way, it was later reported that someone else, a guy, was the person who detonated the bomb. Look it up). By the way, what she is wearing in the photo is not a burka. Finally, how is the the fact that she wore a veil (not a burka, not a burkini) in some random picture related to the subject of this thread?

Oh that is right. A criminal wore a hijab. It follows that all people wearing a hijab are criminals.

So what was she wearing and where is your evidence? Whatever the wear she was covering up and was no longer wearing clubwear. Even the relative in the article says she now wore traditional clothing. Unless you are the relative how would you know? The point is the french banned headscarves at one point and will probably do it again PC be damned.

She is not the person who activated the vest. It was a guy. Where is *your* evidence supporting your initial statement that "she donned hijab and burka to kill in a building" which is your failed attempt to link the wearing of a burkini at a beach and this incident. If she had been wearing a fricking burka inside a building, it would have been reported. And a burka is used outside the house. But all these issues are irrelevant.

By the way, France has not banned headscarves. Please try to have a minimum of knowledge before posting.

You obviously want to conflate the use of a burkini in a beach with the fact that a criminal wore a hijab and burka. If you think the second somewhat justifies the first you need to have you head examined -- not for the presence of bigotry, which you obviously have, but for the absence of logic.

Her relative said in articles she started to wear traditional clothing before the attack. Her intent was to kill people so what does it matter who committed suicide with her? France did ban headscarves in the past look it up. Try to have some minimal knowledge about what you are posting dummy. I am not conflating. The french are not bigoted but taking care of their people and being cautious of further attacks.

1. This criminal became radicalized and began to use traditional clothing, including a hijab (which many law-abiding perfectly normal French women and American women of the Muslim faith use), and a burka. According to your twisted logic, the fact that she used traditional clothing at some point is somehow related to the debate about the use of a head cover and long sleeves in the beach.
2. The outdated and factually incorrect article you quoted does not include the words hijab or burka, yet you misleadingly stated that she donned a hijab and burka at the same time she tried to lure the police into the building, in your pathetic attempt to somehow argue that this particular incident justifies a burkini ban.
3. The French have not banned the use of headscarves. There was a law in 2010 banning the use of the burka in public, and a law limiting the use of headscarves in schools, not in public. You obviously don't know that a headscarve is different from a burka, and a burka is different from a burkini, the latter being created in Australia by a Muslim designer about 10 years ago.
4. You are an idiot and don't realize it.

What the hell are you talking about? The article about the skanky muslim is outdated no duh because it did not happen recently. My god you are so stupid. Educate yourself better please. Fucking idiot.

This principle is supposed to keep religion out of public life, and has been the basis of previous French bans: on the headscarf (and other “conspicuous” religious symbols, including the Jewish kippah and oversized crucifixes) in state schools (in 2004), and the face-covering niqab in all public places (in 2010). The other principle is women’s equality. It may appear bizarre, or frivolous, to argue that women should bare more flesh. But many on the French left in particular regard the need to protect women from a male-imposed doctrine as being at stake—and are willing to put it even before liberty, another founding value of republican France. The logic of the burkini, says Laurence Rossignol, the Socialist women’s minister, is to “hide women’s bodies in order better to control them”.
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Over the years, such efforts have long been met with dismay, if not derision, outside France. When the French began to debate a ban on the burqa in 2009, for instance, Barack Obama declared in Cairo that Western countries should avoid “dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear” under “the pretence of liberalism”. Some civil-liberties groups within France have tried—but so far failed—to get the burkini ban overturned in the courts. Yet French governments bristle at the notion that their various attempts to defend laïcité amount to intolerance or an infringement of the freedom of expression. They may note that in 2014 the European Court of Human Rights upheld France’s burqa ban. What outsiders fail to understand, the French argue, is that such body wear is not just a casual choice but part of an attempt by political Islamism to win recruits and test the resilience of the French republic. Mr Valls dismisses as naive those who see it as being no different than a wetsuit. The burkini, he says, is part of a “political project”, and complacency plays into the hands of Islamists.
The difficulty is that, after a series of deadly terrorist attacks over the past 18 months, France is in a state of heightened tension.

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1. The article originally posted was factually incorrect. It wasn't her who activated the bomb. The original poster tried to justify the burkini ban arguing that there were previous incidents of radicalized women using traditional clothing to do suicide bombings. There has been exactly zero such cases. This factually incorrect article was soon correct at that time, thus becoming outdated *at that time already*. Of course, whether she activated the vest is irrelevant -- except that you tried to use that argument when attempting to justify a burkini ban.

2. You need to learn how to copy and paste ( "Advertisement"). More importantly, the two paragraphs you copied and pasted have nothing to do with your initial argument "burkini ban is needed because I misread an inaccurate article that said that a criminal once wore a hijab, which shows in my little head that burkini ban will solve the risk of female suicide bombers""

3. Using an expletive doesn't make your argument stronger.

4. You are still an idiot.

Lol you were incorrect that it was the burka that was banned and I fully support frances decision. Hey kidos for identifying errors but i am typing on a smartphone. That was not my initial arguement. What an idiot you are. Seriously who raised you? The french banned burkinis got that? Why? Because FRENCH INTELLIGENCE found reasons to do so. The relative in further articles if you bothered to do some research said that the fenal bomber wore traditional clothing. Your lazy ass cannot do appropriate research that is why you are still a misinformed idiot. Do you really think someone who was radicalized would wear jeans and a tshirt when attakcing? Have not seen it happen. The french are smart to take any necessary precautions and input any necessary bans in this time of crisis. Love france!

One neighbour, Hassane, described her as a 'Tom boy', always dressed in jeans, trainers and a black cap - until around eight months ago, when she adopted the niqab.

He said: “She wasn't scared of anyone. She was like a little soldier. She was very lively, very dynamic. She didn't have a niqab before. She was always in jeans and trainers. ”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/12004720/Paris-attacks-female-suicide-bomber-shouted-Help-me-Help-me-to-police-during-Saint-Denis-raid.html