Where are Traditional Conservatives?
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Anonymous
Anyone who voted because of DEI/CRT/Trans stuff is an idiot. I give traditional Conservatives the benefit of the doubt for not being stupid so I don't think they voted for Trump because of those issues. I think they just cannot bring themselves to vote D and esp. not a female D. I am lifelong Dem who gets DEI up the wazoo at work and I hate it but it really does not affect my life much except for having to sit through some dumb training or presentation every once in a while. CRT is a non issue and I don't think trans athletes should compete but I am willing to tolerate all of this because Trump is a billion times worse. |
Anonymous
And people wonder why young white males took a hard right. I guess they should just "be cool" about being punished for stuff that happened before they were born. That's not realistic. |
Anonymous
Well, to be fair it's a toss up between that and all the fear of children. |
Anonymous
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I’m a traditional conservative. We’re the never-Trumpers who voted straight Democratic (anti-MAGA) tickets, despite the fact that we disagreed on many issues and despite the fact that Democrats seemed more interested in demonizing us for being so evil as to disagree with them, than they were in having our votes.
Now I’m mourning what I fear is the loss of my country. I think our freedom is gone, we just haven’t realized it yet. Our actions with Ukraine were shameful. We have surrendered our position as world leader of “the good guys” who support freedom to join the ranks of “the bad guys”, oppressive, aggressive dictators - so much for “truth, justice, and the American way”. I’ll continue writing to my representative and senators, but since I live in a blue state, they’re already opposing Trump. I expect to be protesting in the future, but at best, I expect that to be ineffective, and may eventually have much worse outcomes. If, by some miracle, we ever get another meaningful election, I’ll be voting Democratic, but it would be helpful if Democrats would stop calling would-be voters ignorant and/or evil. Not liking abortion, DEI, thinking illegal immigration should be controlled, or that the trans agenda may have gone too far, too fast, doesn’t make someone sexist, racist, or transphobic, but even if someone is all of the above, and more, we need their vote. Likewise, stop treating voters like idiots. The country was crying out to you about inflation, which you dismissed, claiming it didn’t exist, expecting that since Dems were more likely to be college educated than Republicans (something that was continually being referenced), they should accept the “experts” claims that inflation didn’t exist over their own experiences at the store. What was the biggest economic concern according to the Democrats? Paying off student debt was the real crisis, those same college-educated experts would explain. Meanwhile, they told the hoi palloi that they were on their side fighting for DEI, abortion, trans rights, etc, and wondered why so many people stupidly voted against what you kept telling them was in their own interest. Instead of listening to what they said they needed, you told them you knew better and were baffled that they disagreed. Trump, for all his many faults, listened. He said he agreed that inflation was a problem and that he would fix it. Now I agree that Trump is a liar who isn’t competent to fix inflation, and even if he could, might not bother. Nonetheless, however incompetent and/or unmotivated he might be to fix a problem, he’s still a step ahead of those who won’t even acknowledge the problem exists. Where are the traditional conservatives? We’re still here, fighting MAGA every way we can. Are the Democrats finally desperate enough to put politics aside and join us? Elissa Slotkin’s response to Trump’s speech was fantastic. It focused on the values that unite us and addressed our common interests, rather than seeking to divide us. That’s the message America has been waiting to hear. |
Anonymous
I do not know any traditional conservatives who hold your views. You sound more like MAGA. My conservative friends are APPALLED by Trump. They are appalled by his economic policies (creating instability is really bad for business-hard to do deals), his style and his lack of norms. |
Anonymous
They scream merit and then applaud Trump's appointments, who are mediocre AT BEST! |
Anonymous
Like Black people and other minorities were supposed to just "be cool" with redlining, and women were supposed to just "be cool" with not being able to apply for a credit card in their own names, and people with ethnic sounding names were supposed to just "be cool" with realizing that if they just anglicize their names they'd finally land that job interview, and anyone other than white men were supposed to just "be cool" with the good old boy networks and golf course networking because no one else was allowed membership to the club - both literally and figuratively. GMAFB. Sorry not sorry that when young white males finally had to actually compete and earn their place, they sometimes came up short. But yeah, when the shoe's on the other foot, doesn't feel so good does it? And no, this was never about two wrongs making a right. One is wrong, the other levels the playing field. |
Anonymous
| I think the Lincoln Project people claim to be traditional conservatives. But they vote for democrats, so functionally they ARE democrats and have no influence on the party. Their funding, audience, and message all support democratic initiatives. Republicans are not their target audience. They are basically grifters. |
Anonymous
What? |
Anonymous
White males still get the majority of jobs they are qualified for. The only thing that stopped, except for the P/VP/Cabinet roles, is medicore white people getting hired and promoted over more qualified people of color and women |
Anonymous
You are overplaying the rhetoric. Harris overtly campaigned with Liz Cheney, and there was a whole night at the DNC where traditional conservatives were the featured speakers. No one was castigating people like you. Like you, democrats believe MAGAs are deplorables who are virtually unredeemable at this point in time. |
Anonymous
Then what are you complaining about? You got what you wanted. You felt, and still seem to feel, that it was more important to yell at and punish people for how bad their grandparents and great-grandparents were than to preserve democracy and win the election. |
Anonymous
The Lincoln Party folks are the very traditional conservatives who are the subject of this thread. No, they do not support democratic causes. They do support AMERICAN causes. It just shows how far off the rails MAGA is. |
Anonymous
See, that’s the problem with much of the right. They think $1 million a year is “wealthy”. They seem completely unaware of the amount of enormous , unimaginable wealth that exists in this country, so they don’t even register it as something we could tax. |
Anonymous
Seriously, why do think that Kamala lost? You believe that Trump is worse than Satan, and the American people chose him over Kamala. In the 7 states that weren’t baked in one way or the other, they chose Trump unanimously 7-0. Why are all the Trump haters afraid to answer that question? |