Student apprehended with loaded gun at Gaithersburg High

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.


This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.


It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.


That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?


CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

So, when the PP stated "They can discipline…" that was incorrect.


They're trying to mislead people to push their SRO agenda. They probably work for the police union.


What’s your agenda and your affiliation? Why don’t you care about keeping our kids and teachers safe?


How did SROs keep everyone safe at Uvalde and Parkland?


I mean seatbelts save lives so we all wear them. Yet sometimes, people die in car crashes anyway. Are you saying why bother with seatbelts because they’re not effective 100% of the time?


This is a flawed argument. Seatbelts are not armed police officers. Gun control, however, works well in other countries. We should consider stricter gun laws.


Chicago's strict gun laws have not stopped students from getting shot in or near schools.

Newsflash: Most people who commit crime don't care about the laws that are on the books.

Therefore, we need to worry about the mechanisms in place to identify those who are breaking the law and hold them accountable. Laws on the books alone don't change people's behavior. Enforcement and action do.


I’m guessing you actually want to understand but Chicago is surrounded by places with no gun laws so their laws are essentially mooted


What about DC? DC has strict gun laws, as does MoCo.

This is not really about guns. It's about people having access to our school buildings who do not belong there. We have seen this over and over - people simply walking into the school building (the RM robbery in the bathroom, for example).


RM has an SRO.


RM has a CEO that it shares with its cluster of middle and elementary schools.


No different than the SRO program.

The security guard raped a student … nobody even cared.


A dedicated resource to one school vs a shared resource across 7-8 schools is not the same thing...


So what now we need a small police force for MCPS. 214 officers so each school has one, a supply of backup officers, new weapons detection systems, etc.


They should have two at all the high schools, one for MS and ES. And, 6-8 security guards per school.
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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.


This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.


It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.


That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?


CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

So, when the PP stated "They can discipline…" that was incorrect.


They're trying to mislead people to push their SRO agenda. They probably work for the police union.


What’s your agenda and your affiliation? Why don’t you care about keeping our kids and teachers safe?


How did SROs keep everyone safe at Uvalde and Parkland?


I mean seatbelts save lives so we all wear them. Yet sometimes, people die in car crashes anyway. Are you saying why bother with seatbelts because they’re not effective 100% of the time?


This is a flawed argument. Seatbelts are not armed police officers. Gun control, however, works well in other countries. We should consider stricter gun laws.


Chicago's strict gun laws have not stopped students from getting shot in or near schools.

Newsflash: Most people who commit crime don't care about the laws that are on the books.

Therefore, we need to worry about the mechanisms in place to identify those who are breaking the law and hold them accountable. Laws on the books alone don't change people's behavior. Enforcement and action do.


I’m guessing you actually want to understand but Chicago is surrounded by places with no gun laws so their laws are essentially mooted


So is MD. So putting this forth as the remedy to our problem is a waste of time.

And even if you're passionate about a federal gun control ban, MCPS is not the entity to lobby that for. And furthermore, if you're serious about the issue, you'd know that getting something like that in place is highly unlikely given the 2nd amendment. So stop distracting from the topic with a side conversation on federal gun control, which you're free to discuss in the Political Discussion forum: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/forums/show/39.page


They bring this up every time and it's not related to MCPS. That is on the state and federal level. MCPS is county level so the question is what can the county do, not the state or feds.
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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.


This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.


It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.


That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?


CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

So, when the PP stated "They can discipline…" that was incorrect.


They're trying to mislead people to push their SRO agenda. They probably work for the police union.


What’s your agenda and your affiliation? Why don’t you care about keeping our kids and teachers safe?


How did SROs keep everyone safe at Uvalde and Parkland?


I mean seatbelts save lives so we all wear them. Yet sometimes, people die in car crashes anyway. Are you saying why bother with seatbelts because they’re not effective 100% of the time?


This is a flawed argument. Seatbelts are not armed police officers. Gun control, however, works well in other countries. We should consider stricter gun laws.


Chicago's strict gun laws have not stopped students from getting shot in or near schools.

Newsflash: Most people who commit crime don't care about the laws that are on the books.

Therefore, we need to worry about the mechanisms in place to identify those who are breaking the law and hold them accountable. Laws on the books alone don't change people's behavior. Enforcement and action do.


I’m guessing you actually want to understand but Chicago is surrounded by places with no gun laws so their laws are essentially mooted


What about DC? DC has strict gun laws, as does MoCo.

This is not really about guns. It's about people having access to our school buildings who do not belong there. We have seen this over and over - people simply walking into the school building (the RM robbery in the bathroom, for example).


RM has an SRO.


RM has a CEO that it shares with its cluster of middle and elementary schools.


No different than the SRO program.

The security guard raped a student … nobody even cared.


A dedicated resource to one school vs a shared resource across 7-8 schools is not the same thing...


True but that’s not what is happening.


Are you claiming CEOs are not dedicated by cluster? That's not what I know to be factually true having interacted with MCPD leadership that oversees the CEO program.


The true statement is the old program had

One resource who is only assigned to one school, has no backup and nobody shows when they are sick and there was no oversight

Vs the new program has

Multiple resources assigned to a cluster to provide coverage, backup, and oversight.


Ok. So you're distinguishing that's there better backup options and potentially more consistent coverage overall with the new CEO program, which is a shared resource model. That's fine.

But that still doesn't change my original point that in the old model, the SRO was dedicated to that one school, whereas now, that CEO is shared among a cluster of schools. I'll take your point that with the old model, there was no backup and coverage might not have been 100%, but still....
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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.


That didn't help at either Parkland or Uvalde. You might want to consider stricter gun controls.


Why does it have to be one or the other? There are cases where properly trained SROs responded quickly and did make a difference.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryland-school-shooting-school-resource-officer-gunman-great-mills-high-school/

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Anonymous wrote:We need more whistleblowers like the Clarksburg substitute . The general public would be shocked to see what it really looks like in a secondary school.


??? What sub?


A sub called a Twitter personality who misreported the incident.

Of course if you just waited 24 hours the correct information was provided.



I don't know about a sub and a Twitter personality, but the Clarksburg sub shown in link below contacted WUSA 9.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/fighting-continues-at-clarksburg-high-school-whistleblower-teachers-worry-for-safety/65-61561898-726e-4581-b5dd-27933b2f20be
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MCPS hasn't even had a Chief Safety Officer since the last one left last fall after having only been on the job for 5 months. I don't think anyone has been named the acting chief since. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.


This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.


It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.


That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?


CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

So, when the PP stated "They can discipline…" that was incorrect.


They're trying to mislead people to push their SRO agenda. They probably work for the police union.


What’s your agenda and your affiliation? Why don’t you care about keeping our kids and teachers safe?


How did SROs keep everyone safe at Uvalde and Parkland?


I mean seatbelts save lives so we all wear them. Yet sometimes, people die in car crashes anyway. Are you saying why bother with seatbelts because they’re not effective 100% of the time?


This is a flawed argument. Seatbelts are not armed police officers. Gun control, however, works well in other countries. We should consider stricter gun laws.

again why can't we do both? MD has strict gun laws. Didn't stop the few gun incidents in MCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.


That didn't help at either Parkland or Uvalde. You might want to consider stricter gun controls.


Why does it have to be one or the other? There are cases where properly trained SROs responded quickly and did make a difference.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryland-school-shooting-school-resource-officer-gunman-great-mills-high-school/



Because the SRO did not stop him. The shooter killed the intended target, the ex girlfriend, and himself.

The SRO literally did not stop the shooter.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS hasn't even had a Chief Safety Officer since the last one left last fall after having only been on the job for 5 months. I don't think anyone has been named the acting chief since. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Correct. And the predecessor, Ed Clarke, before the one who quit abruptly in November, Pam Wheeler-Taylor, was fired for failing to document and report serious incidents in the school system to the state as required by law.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.


This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.


It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.


That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?


CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

So, when the PP stated "They can discipline…" that was incorrect.


They're trying to mislead people to push their SRO agenda. They probably work for the police union.


What’s your agenda and your affiliation? Why don’t you care about keeping our kids and teachers safe?


How did SROs keep everyone safe at Uvalde and Parkland?


I mean seatbelts save lives so we all wear them. Yet sometimes, people die in car crashes anyway. Are you saying why bother with seatbelts because they’re not effective 100% of the time?


This is a flawed argument. Seatbelts are not armed police officers. Gun control, however, works well in other countries. We should consider stricter gun laws.


Chicago's strict gun laws have not stopped students from getting shot in or near schools.

Newsflash: Most people who commit crime don't care about the laws that are on the books.

Therefore, we need to worry about the mechanisms in place to identify those who are breaking the law and hold them accountable. Laws on the books alone don't change people's behavior. Enforcement and action do.


I’m guessing you actually want to understand but Chicago is surrounded by places with no gun laws so their laws are essentially mooted


What about DC? DC has strict gun laws, as does MoCo.

This is not really about guns. It's about people having access to our school buildings who do not belong there. We have seen this over and over - people simply walking into the school building (the RM robbery in the bathroom, for example).


RM has an SRO.


RM has a CEO that it shares with its cluster of middle and elementary schools.


No different than the SRO program.

The security guard raped a student … nobody even cared.


A dedicated resource to one school vs a shared resource across 7-8 schools is not the same thing...


So what now we need a small police force for MCPS. 214 officers so each school has one, a supply of backup officers, new weapons detection systems, etc.


They should have two at all the high schools, one for MS and ES. And, 6-8 security guards per school.


I’m sure the budget and HR offices from MCPS/MCPD/Sheriff’s Office would like to speak to you about this.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS hasn't even had a Chief Safety Officer since the last one left last fall after having only been on the job for 5 months. I don't think anyone has been named the acting chief since. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Correct. And the predecessor, Ed Clarke, before the one who quit abruptly in November, Pam Wheeler-Taylor, was fired for failing to document and report serious incidents in the school system to the state as required by law.



No Pam was not fired, she’d quit and is now a back to police work
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS hasn't even had a Chief Safety Officer since the last one left last fall after having only been on the job for 5 months. I don't think anyone has been named the acting chief since. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Correct. And the predecessor, Ed Clarke, before the one who quit abruptly in November, Pam Wheeler-Taylor, was fired for failing to document and report serious incidents in the school system to the state as required by law.



No Pam was not fired, she’d quit and is now a back to police work


I didn’t say Pam was fired. I said her predecessor, Ed Clarke, was.
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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.


This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.


It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.


That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?


CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

So, when the PP stated "They can discipline…" that was incorrect.


They're trying to mislead people to push their SRO agenda. They probably work for the police union.


What’s your agenda and your affiliation? Why don’t you care about keeping our kids and teachers safe?


How did SROs keep everyone safe at Uvalde and Parkland?


I mean seatbelts save lives so we all wear them. Yet sometimes, people die in car crashes anyway. Are you saying why bother with seatbelts because they’re not effective 100% of the time?


This is a flawed argument. Seatbelts are not armed police officers. Gun control, however, works well in other countries. We should consider stricter gun laws.


Chicago's strict gun laws have not stopped students from getting shot in or near schools.

Newsflash: Most people who commit crime don't care about the laws that are on the books.

Therefore, we need to worry about the mechanisms in place to identify those who are breaking the law and hold them accountable. Laws on the books alone don't change people's behavior. Enforcement and action do.


I’m guessing you actually want to understand but Chicago is surrounded by places with no gun laws so their laws are essentially mooted


What about DC? DC has strict gun laws, as does MoCo.

This is not really about guns. It's about people having access to our school buildings who do not belong there. We have seen this over and over - people simply walking into the school building (the RM robbery in the bathroom, for example).


RM has an SRO.


RM has a CEO that it shares with its cluster of middle and elementary schools.


No different than the SRO program.

The security guard raped a student … nobody even cared.


A dedicated resource to one school vs a shared resource across 7-8 schools is not the same thing...


So what now we need a small police force for MCPS. 214 officers so each school has one, a supply of backup officers, new weapons detection systems, etc.


Wouldn't be a bad start IMO.


Fortunately we don't have to do things like this.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS hasn't even had a Chief Safety Officer since the last one left last fall after having only been on the job for 5 months. I don't think anyone has been named the acting chief since. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Correct. And the predecessor, Ed Clarke, before the one who quit abruptly in November, Pam Wheeler-Taylor, was fired for failing to document and report serious incidents in the school system to the state as required by law.



No Pam was not fired, she’d quit and is now a back to police work


The extremists invent half these stories in a feeble attempt to support their political agenda of turning schools into kid prisons.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS hasn't even had a Chief Safety Officer since the last one left last fall after having only been on the job for 5 months. I don't think anyone has been named the acting chief since. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Correct. And the predecessor, Ed Clarke, before the one who quit abruptly in November, Pam Wheeler-Taylor, was fired for failing to document and report serious incidents in the school system to the state as required by law.



No Pam was not fired, she’d quit and is now a back to police work


The extremists invent half these stories in a feeble attempt to support their political agenda of turning schools into kid prisons.


Nobody invented anything. The PP has reading comprehension issues.
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