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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


Honestly, I wish someone with time on their hands would assemble the data about school calls when SROs were in school, during the period between SROs and CEOs, and then since. It would be really useful for these discussions.
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


That absolutely did not “disband”…. SROs were in school parking lots for 1 year until they created changes based on issues identified. The next year SRO’s (the exact same humans) were brought back into schools, no longer involved in discipline, only do police work and have backup and renamed.
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.


You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


That absolutely did not “disband”…. SROs were in school parking lots for 1 year until they created changes based on issues identified. The next year SRO’s (the exact same humans) were brought back into schools, no longer involved in discipline, only do police work and have backup and renamed.


Do you prefer the term "suspended" to "disbanded"? Either way, they were pulled out of the schools and weren't doing the work they'd previously been doing.
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.


You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.


You are the one who is completely wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.


You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.


You are the one who is completely wrong.



Anti-SRO PP,

You can change reality all you want. It doesn’t ACTUALLY change reality. Those of us posting about the demise of the SRO program are very well versed in what ACTUALLY happened.

Posting your make-believe isn’t going to convince anybody.
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.


You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.


You are the one who is completely wrong.



Anti-SRO PP,

You can change reality all you want. It doesn’t ACTUALLY change reality. Those of us posting about the demise of the SRO program are very well versed in what ACTUALLY happened.

Posting your make-believe isn’t going to convince anybody.


I’m not anti-SRO. I’m for cops in schools, the exact same cops who were in schools 5 years ago are still there. they are in schools and they are called CEOs and they are doing a great job.

Your make believe narrative “cops are not in schools” is wrong and insane.
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.


You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.


You are the one who is completely wrong.



Anti-SRO PP,

You can change reality all you want. It doesn’t ACTUALLY change reality. Those of us posting about the demise of the SRO program are very well versed in what ACTUALLY happened.

Posting your make-believe isn’t going to convince anybody.


I’m not anti-SRO. I’m for cops in schools, the exact same cops who were in schools 5 years ago are still there. they are in schools and they are called CEOs and they are doing a great job.

Your make believe narrative “cops are not in schools” is wrong and insane.


Elrich himself used "removed from schools language" and it was in MULTIPLE NEWS REPORTS. You are spinning your own reality. Do you work for Elrich or Jawando's offices?

SOURCE: https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/04/montgomery-co-schools-law-enforcement-formalize-agreement-on-police-role-in-schools/

In 2021, Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich said police who operated as school resource officers (SROs) would be removed from schools in the coming year.


Here's another source saying SROs were removed from schools:

SOURCE: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/community-engagement-officers-montgomery-county-public-schools/65-8475c60e-4c4f-4bed-9c46-6b6d07245532

Less than a year after Montgomery County Public Schools became the first Maryland jurisdiction to remove police officers from their buildings, the county is partially reversing course.


SOURCE: https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

Eventually, County Executive Marc Elrich pulled funding for the SRO program, causing officers to leave their school assignments, and unveiled a new school safety model, called the community engagement officer (CEO) program.


SOURCE: https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

A year ago, Montgomery County Executive (CE) Marc Elrich abruptly announced the end of the county’s School Resource Officer (SRO) program. This was before school officials completed a study ordered by the Board of Education seeking more community input about the program.

Now, this week, officials from the Montgomery County Council and the county executive’s office are working out the details for a hybrid program, CEO 2.0 MOU, that would allow police officers to maintain offices in all county high schools and to, again, have direct contact with police.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.


You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.


You are the one who is completely wrong.



Anti-SRO PP,

You can change reality all you want. It doesn’t ACTUALLY change reality. Those of us posting about the demise of the SRO program are very well versed in what ACTUALLY happened.

Posting your make-believe isn’t going to convince anybody.


I’m not anti-SRO. I’m for cops in schools, the exact same cops who were in schools 5 years ago are still there. they are in schools and they are called CEOs and they are doing a great job.

Your make believe narrative “cops are not in schools” is wrong and insane.


Elrich himself used "removed from schools language" and it was in MULTIPLE NEWS REPORTS. You are spinning your own reality. Do you work for Elrich or Jawando's offices?

SOURCE: https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/04/montgomery-co-schools-law-enforcement-formalize-agreement-on-police-role-in-schools/

In 2021, Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich said police who operated as school resource officers (SROs) would be removed from schools in the coming year.


Here's another source saying SROs were removed from schools:

SOURCE: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/community-engagement-officers-montgomery-county-public-schools/65-8475c60e-4c4f-4bed-9c46-6b6d07245532

Less than a year after Montgomery County Public Schools became the first Maryland jurisdiction to remove police officers from their buildings, the county is partially reversing course.


SOURCE: https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

Eventually, County Executive Marc Elrich pulled funding for the SRO program, causing officers to leave their school assignments, and unveiled a new school safety model, called the community engagement officer (CEO) program.


SOURCE: https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

A year ago, Montgomery County Executive (CE) Marc Elrich abruptly announced the end of the county’s School Resource Officer (SRO) program. This was before school officials completed a study ordered by the Board of Education seeking more community input about the program.

Now, this week, officials from the Montgomery County Council and the county executive’s office are working out the details for a hybrid program, CEO 2.0 MOU, that would allow police officers to maintain offices in all county high schools and to, again, have direct contact with police.



That’s exactly what I said.

They were put in the parking lots for 1 year. Out if schools.

They came back the next year with offices in the school, with backup for when they are out, rotating through schools for oversight, going to younger schools to build relationships and removed from discipline.

Better program modeled after what PG county dues.

Sorry but we have cops in schools. Go back to banning books.
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.


You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.


You are the one who is completely wrong.


dp... here's what we know:

1. Elrich and the progressives got rid of SROs BEFORE a study could be completed, and instead said they'd hire more mental health professionals.

Elrich then says that he wouldn't have pulled out the SROs had he known that MCPS could not fully staff the mental health counselors. Basically, he shot his load too quickly. A year out, they couldn't even hire half the mental health professional, even though ALL the principals wanted to keep them.


https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

MCPS has been slow to hire additional social workers, though, and in a recent interview with Bethesda Beat, Elrich said that if he had known it would have taken such a long time to fill those positions, he would have talked more about an “interim” plan.


https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

2. Two years out, we see an uptick in violence in schools, including incidents involving guns - they bring back cops as CEOs but they have to stay in their office until the Principal calls them

3. we see an ever increasing incidents of violence in schools

What's it going to take for them to go back to full SRO? A mass shooting?
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


Not really. They realized that the SRO program was problematic since these programs simply don't work. The CEO program made more sense.
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.


You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.


You are the one who is completely wrong.


dp... here's what we know:

1. Elrich and the progressives got rid of SROs BEFORE a study could be completed, and instead said they'd hire more mental health professionals.

Elrich then says that he wouldn't have pulled out the SROs had he known that MCPS could not fully staff the mental health counselors. Basically, he shot his load too quickly. A year out, they couldn't even hire half the mental health professional, even though ALL the principals wanted to keep them.


https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

MCPS has been slow to hire additional social workers, though, and in a recent interview with Bethesda Beat, Elrich said that if he had known it would have taken such a long time to fill those positions, he would have talked more about an “interim” plan.


https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

2. Two years out, we see an uptick in violence in schools, including incidents involving guns - they bring back cops as CEOs but they have to stay in their office until the Principal calls them

3. we see an ever increasing incidents of violence in schools

What's it going to take for them to go back to full SRO? A mass shooting?


The SROs at Parkland and Uvalde failed to do much to stop those incidents. SROs are clearly not the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.


Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.


This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.


You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.


You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name


We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.


Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.


Not really. They realized that the SRO program was problematic since these programs simply don't work. The CEO program made more sense.


According to who? We're about to find out if Elrich/Jawando's POV on SROs was right since DeAndre Thomas's mother believes her son was shot at Magruder because MCPS removed SROs from schools: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/mcps-sued-by-family-of-magruder-high-shooting-victim/65-a50f90de-439b-4092-ae28-21708b75fe8c

There's the opportunity to settle the case in April but if they don't settle, it's going to trial in June. We're about to find out what worked or didn't work in a true legal sense if this case moves forward vs uninformed and unsubstantiated opinions and theories.

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