Student apprehended with loaded gun at Gaithersburg High

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

That didn't help at either Parkland or Uvalde. You might want to consider stricter gun controls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SOURCE: https://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-man-arrested-for-possession-of-loaded-privately-manufactured-handgun-gaithersburg-high-school-montgomery-county-public-schools-mcps-gun-weapon#

An 18-year-old from Maryland was arrested Tuesday for possession of a loaded privately manufactured handgun on the campus of Gaithersburg High School, according to police.

Community Engagement Officers with Gaithersburg Police were called to the school in the 100 block of Education Boulevard around 10:46 a.m.

During an investigation, Montgomery County Public Schools’ (MCPS) security personnel made conduct with Josue Rivas, 18. According to officials, the security team conducted a search and found a loaded handgun while officers were present.

MCPS, at what point are you going to make increasing and improving safety and security a priority? How many of these incidents need to happen before the BOE and leadership react?

The CEOs handled the incident perfectly, proving SROs aren't necessary!

Fewer guns = Safer Schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need more whistleblowers like the Clarksburg substitute. The general public would be shocked to see what it really looks like in a secondary school.

Absolutely. She's brave and she's a hero. I wish more educators were willing to speak out like her.

MCPS doesn't listen to parents, but when teachers go to the media, as they did with Beidleman and the Washington Post, they can bring MCPS to its knees.

But I read that MCPS did a thorough investigation of all those anonymous complaints and didn't find wrongdoing.

Bye, troll. We're not playing that game today.

[Anonymous]

In my experience our CEO hangs out in the school a lot more now in his office. He doesn’t mingle with the students or get involved in run of the mill issues.

[Anonymous]

Former FCPS employee (itinerant). If I needed immediate action and help @ any of my assigned high schools (and I worked at over 12 MS/HS), I radioed for the SRO. Immediate response and assistance to include direct line to EMS. No way was I going to try to be a hero, waste precious minutes, put my personal safety in jeopardy or wonder if my call was really necessary—it always was.

I left precisely because no amount of money will compensate the risk to my personal safety and the sheer sense of panic I’d feel arriving to work at *a middle school.* I wasn’t trained in de-escalation tactics, but the SROs are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

+1 timing in dangerous situations can be the difference between life and death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I'm resigned that there is not a lot that can be done by schools. Schools are a reflection of the community. To keep all guns out requires making schools like prisons with metal detectors and police. Most students when treated like prisoners will behave like them.

I don't understand this argument. We have cops securing concert halls, airports, and government buildings. No one is complaining about having cops in these places and saying that their presence make these places like prisons.

+1 so true

Some of these kids are committing adult like offenses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are you suggestions for the safety plan?

Seems like it work the way it’s supposed too unless we hire mediums to tell us before an event happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need more whistleblowers like the Clarksburg substitute . The general public would be shocked to see what it really looks like in a secondary school.

??? What sub?

A sub called a Twitter personality who misreported the incident.

Of course if you just waited 24 hours the correct information was provided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

That didn't help at either Parkland or Uvalde. You might want to consider stricter gun controls.

TX has lax gun control; MD does not, and yet, here we are. We've already had several incidents involving guns. Also, even if MD has very strict gun control, I'm assuming you've heard of cars and the internet. People go across state lines, or go to private sales, or buy parts over the internet. Ghost guns, for example, can be ordered online and put together at home.

MD isn't in a bubble. We have a gun problem in this country, and it impacts MD. MD can't control other states, so what is MCPS going to do about kids bringing in guns to school?

Do you really think school administrators and security guards are the ones equipped to deal with shooters and guns? Or do you think maybe trained police are the ones who should be dealing with that?

And if trained police should be dealing with that, do you think they would be more effective in the school or 10 minutes away?

Admins shouldn't be dealing with school violence; security guards shouldn't be dealing with shooters or kids who bring guns to school.

SROs should be placed in schools to deal with issues like this. They are trained for it and have a direct line to call for backup. As a PP stated, it took 20min for backup to arrive because there is a chain at least 3 people long to get the backup needed. That's 2 chains too long in situations where a gun is involved.

Honestly, you anti-SROs are not going to get it until we have a mass school shooting in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my experience our CEO hangs out in the school a lot more now in his office. He doesn’t mingle with the students or get involved in run of the mill issues.

Their methods seem to work, but if SROs went in guns blazing, they'd escalate the matter and put everyone in danger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

Yes, the CEOs got the job done safely which is exactly the goal.SROs at least in places like Parkland weren't helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.