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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

dp... here's what we know:

1. Elrich and the progressives got rid of SROs BEFORE a study could be completed, and instead said they'd hire more mental health professionals.

Elrich then says that he wouldn't have pulled out the SROs had he known that MCPS could not fully staff the mental health counselors. Basically, he shot his load too quickly. A year out, they couldn't even hire half the mental health professional, even though ALL the principals wanted to keep them.


https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

MCPS has been slow to hire additional social workers, though, and in a recent interview with Bethesda Beat, Elrich said that if he had known it would have taken such a long time to fill those positions, he would have talked more about an “interim” plan.

https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

2. Two years out, we see an uptick in violence in schools, including incidents involving guns - they bring back cops as CEOs but they have to stay in their office until the Principal calls them

3. we see an ever increasing incidents of violence in schools

What's it going to take for them to go back to full SRO? A mass shooting?

The SROs at Parkland and Uvalde failed to do much to stop those incidents. SROs are clearly not the answer.

There have been cases in other schools that shows SROs can do good. That's why PG has them.

Also, what happens in TX and FL does not apply to MD. Elrich didn't give MCPS a chance to complete the study. Thankfully, we've not had a mass shooting here, but you can see the correlation between the no SRO/CEO path to now CEO with an uptick in violence.

Stand to reason that a tragic mass shooting needs to happen in order for the progressives to move on to CEO 3.0, which will be the same as an SRO, only with a different name so it makes them feel better.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

dp... here's what we know:

1. Elrich and the progressives got rid of SROs BEFORE a study could be completed, and instead said they'd hire more mental health professionals.

Elrich then says that he wouldn't have pulled out the SROs had he known that MCPS could not fully staff the mental health counselors. Basically, he shot his load too quickly. A year out, they couldn't even hire half the mental health professional, even though ALL the principals wanted to keep them.


https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

MCPS has been slow to hire additional social workers, though, and in a recent interview with Bethesda Beat, Elrich said that if he had known it would have taken such a long time to fill those positions, he would have talked more about an “interim” plan.

https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

2. Two years out, we see an uptick in violence in schools, including incidents involving guns - they bring back cops as CEOs but they have to stay in their office until the Principal calls them

3. we see an ever increasing incidents of violence in schools

What's it going to take for them to go back to full SRO? A mass shooting?

The SROs at Parkland and Uvalde failed to do much to stop those incidents. SROs are clearly not the answer.

There have been cases in other schools that shows SROs can do good. That's why PG has them.

Also, what happens in TX and FL does not apply to MD. Elrich didn't give MCPS a chance to complete the study. Thankfully, we've not had a mass shooting here, but you can see the correlation between the no SRO/CEO path to now CEO with an uptick in violence.

Stand to reason that a tragic mass shooting needs to happen in order for the progressives to move on to CEO 3.0, which will be the same as an SRO, only with a different name so it makes them feel better.

I'm sure there are one or two instances where they helped out, but more often that's not the case.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

dp... here's what we know:

1. Elrich and the progressives got rid of SROs BEFORE a study could be completed, and instead said they'd hire more mental health professionals.

Elrich then says that he wouldn't have pulled out the SROs had he known that MCPS could not fully staff the mental health counselors. Basically, he shot his load too quickly. A year out, they couldn't even hire half the mental health professional, even though ALL the principals wanted to keep them.


https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

MCPS has been slow to hire additional social workers, though, and in a recent interview with Bethesda Beat, Elrich said that if he had known it would have taken such a long time to fill those positions, he would have talked more about an “interim” plan.

https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

2. Two years out, we see an uptick in violence in schools, including incidents involving guns - they bring back cops as CEOs but they have to stay in their office until the Principal calls them

3. we see an ever increasing incidents of violence in schools

What's it going to take for them to go back to full SRO? A mass shooting?

The SROs at Parkland and Uvalde failed to do much to stop those incidents. SROs are clearly not the answer.

There have been cases in other schools that shows SROs can do good. That's why PG has them.

Also, what happens in TX and FL does not apply to MD. Elrich didn't give MCPS a chance to complete the study. Thankfully, we've not had a mass shooting here, but you can see the correlation between the no SRO/CEO path to now CEO with an uptick in violence.

Stand to reason that a tragic mass shooting needs to happen in order for the progressives to move on to CEO 3.0, which will be the same as an SRO, only with a different name so it makes them feel better.

I'm sure there are one or two instances where they helped out, but more often that's not the case.

MCPS was in the middle of conducting a study on SROs in MCPS and how effective they were, but Elrich pulled the plug before they could finish the study.

There is no definitive study that says either or. MCPS' preliminary study indicated that it was a mixed bag.

https://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/C2S2RR727C3F/$file/SRO%20Program%20210511.pdf

Now you cite your source that "there are one or two instances where they helped out, but more often that's not the case."

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

Anti-SRO PP,

You can change reality all you want. It doesn’t ACTUALLY change reality. Those of us posting about the demise of the SRO program are very well versed in what ACTUALLY happened.

Posting your make-believe isn’t going to convince anybody.

I’m not anti-SRO. I’m for cops in schools, the exact same cops who were in schools 5 years ago are still there. they are in schools and they are called CEOs and they are doing a great job.

Your make believe narrative “cops are not in schools” is wrong and insane.

Elrich himself used "removed from schools language" and it was in MULTIPLE NEWS REPORTS. You are spinning your own reality. Do you work for Elrich or Jawando's offices?

SOURCE: https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/04/montgomery-co-schools-law-enforcement-formalize-agreement-on-police-role-in-schools/

In 2021, Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich said police who operated as school resource officers (SROs) would be removed from schools in the coming year.

Here's another source saying SROs were removed from schools:

SOURCE: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/community-engagement-officers-montgomery-county-public-schools/65-8475c60e-4c4f-4bed-9c46-6b6d07245532

Less than a year after Montgomery County Public Schools became the first Maryland jurisdiction to remove police officers from their buildings, the county is partially reversing course.

SOURCE: https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

Eventually, County Executive Marc Elrich pulled funding for the SRO program, causing officers to leave their school assignments, and unveiled a new school safety model, called the community engagement officer (CEO) program.

SOURCE: https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

A year ago, Montgomery County Executive (CE) Marc Elrich abruptly announced the end of the county’s School Resource Officer (SRO) program. This was before school officials completed a study ordered by the Board of Education seeking more community input about the program.

Now, this week, officials from the Montgomery County Council and the county executive’s office are working out the details for a hybrid program, CEO 2.0 MOU, that would allow police officers to maintain offices in all county high schools and to, again, have direct contact with police.

That’s exactly what I said.

They were put in the parking lots for 1 year. Out if schools.

They came back the next year with offices in the school, with backup for when they are out, rotating through schools for oversight, going to younger schools to build relationships and removed from discipline.

Better program modeled after what PG county dues.

Sorry but we have cops in schools. Go back to banning books.

You jumped the shark with your ridiculous “banning books” comment here. You assume the posters here are right-wing. You are so, so wrong.

I’m a very liberal TEACHER who happens to know FIRST HAND what is going on in the schools. You can’t pull the wool over my eyes. It’s astounding to me that you keep peddling this nonsense, assuming that the people you are responding to are ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

dp... here's what we know:

1. Elrich and the progressives got rid of SROs BEFORE a study could be completed, and instead said they'd hire more mental health professionals.

Elrich then says that he wouldn't have pulled out the SROs had he known that MCPS could not fully staff the mental health counselors. Basically, he shot his load too quickly. A year out, they couldn't even hire half the mental health professional, even though ALL the principals wanted to keep them.


https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

MCPS has been slow to hire additional social workers, though, and in a recent interview with Bethesda Beat, Elrich said that if he had known it would have taken such a long time to fill those positions, he would have talked more about an “interim” plan.

https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

2. Two years out, we see an uptick in violence in schools, including incidents involving guns - they bring back cops as CEOs but they have to stay in their office until the Principal calls them

3. we see an ever increasing incidents of violence in schools

What's it going to take for them to go back to full SRO? A mass shooting?

The SROs at Parkland and Uvalde failed to do much to stop those incidents. SROs are clearly not the answer.

There have been cases in other schools that shows SROs can do good. That's why PG has them.

Also, what happens in TX and FL does not apply to MD. Elrich didn't give MCPS a chance to complete the study. Thankfully, we've not had a mass shooting here, but you can see the correlation between the no SRO/CEO path to now CEO with an uptick in violence.

Stand to reason that a tragic mass shooting needs to happen in order for the progressives to move on to CEO 3.0, which will be the same as an SRO, only with a different name so it makes them feel better.

PG county’s SRO program and in Montgomery counties CEO program are exactly the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

Anti-SRO PP,

You can change reality all you want. It doesn’t ACTUALLY change reality. Those of us posting about the demise of the SRO program are very well versed in what ACTUALLY happened.

Posting your make-believe isn’t going to convince anybody.

I’m not anti-SRO. I’m for cops in schools, the exact same cops who were in schools 5 years ago are still there. they are in schools and they are called CEOs and they are doing a great job.

Your make believe narrative “cops are not in schools” is wrong and insane.

Elrich himself used "removed from schools language" and it was in MULTIPLE NEWS REPORTS. You are spinning your own reality. Do you work for Elrich or Jawando's offices?

SOURCE: https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/04/montgomery-co-schools-law-enforcement-formalize-agreement-on-police-role-in-schools/

In 2021, Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich said police who operated as school resource officers (SROs) would be removed from schools in the coming year.

Here's another source saying SROs were removed from schools:

SOURCE: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/community-engagement-officers-montgomery-county-public-schools/65-8475c60e-4c4f-4bed-9c46-6b6d07245532

Less than a year after Montgomery County Public Schools became the first Maryland jurisdiction to remove police officers from their buildings, the county is partially reversing course.

SOURCE: https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

Eventually, County Executive Marc Elrich pulled funding for the SRO program, causing officers to leave their school assignments, and unveiled a new school safety model, called the community engagement officer (CEO) program.

SOURCE: https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

A year ago, Montgomery County Executive (CE) Marc Elrich abruptly announced the end of the county’s School Resource Officer (SRO) program. This was before school officials completed a study ordered by the Board of Education seeking more community input about the program.

Now, this week, officials from the Montgomery County Council and the county executive’s office are working out the details for a hybrid program, CEO 2.0 MOU, that would allow police officers to maintain offices in all county high schools and to, again, have direct contact with police.

That’s exactly what I said.

They were put in the parking lots for 1 year. Out if schools.

They came back the next year with offices in the school, with backup for when they are out, rotating through schools for oversight, going to younger schools to build relationships and removed from discipline.

Better program modeled after what PG county dues.

Sorry but we have cops in schools. Go back to banning books.

You jumped the shark with your ridiculous “banning books” comment here. You assume the posters here are right-wing. You are so, so wrong.

I’m a very liberal TEACHER who happens to know FIRST HAND what is going on in the schools. You can’t pull the wool over my eyes. It’s astounding to me that you keep peddling this nonsense, assuming that the people you are responding to are ignorant.

I’m not liberal I’m a conservative who believes in cops in school doing police work and teachers doing teaching and discipline.

Im not your kids disciplinarian, I’m not there to do YOUR job, I’m there to do police work

You are ignorant of you think I’m a counselor or specialist in child development. I’m trained to arrest criminals.

Do your job, I’ll do mine.

So are you claiming to be a CEO? I’m having a hard time believing it. See, my fellow teachers and I didn’t use SROs for school discipline. Basic discipline was not what they were there for. That’s our job, backed up by our admin.

And a current CEO would not use your tone toward a teacher. How do I know? Because I happen to know a couple of them, and they wouldn’t claim they are merely trained to “arrest criminals” as they have additional training to work specifically with the school system. Good try.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

dp... here's what we know:

1. Elrich and the progressives got rid of SROs BEFORE a study could be completed, and instead said they'd hire more mental health professionals.

Elrich then says that he wouldn't have pulled out the SROs had he known that MCPS could not fully staff the mental health counselors. Basically, he shot his load too quickly. A year out, they couldn't even hire half the mental health professional, even though ALL the principals wanted to keep them.


https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

MCPS has been slow to hire additional social workers, though, and in a recent interview with Bethesda Beat, Elrich said that if he had known it would have taken such a long time to fill those positions, he would have talked more about an “interim” plan.

https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

2. Two years out, we see an uptick in violence in schools, including incidents involving guns - they bring back cops as CEOs but they have to stay in their office until the Principal calls them

3. we see an ever increasing incidents of violence in schools

What's it going to take for them to go back to full SRO? A mass shooting?

The SROs at Parkland and Uvalde failed to do much to stop those incidents. SROs are clearly not the answer.

There have been cases in other schools that shows SROs can do good. That's why PG has them.

Also, what happens in TX and FL does not apply to MD. Elrich didn't give MCPS a chance to complete the study. Thankfully, we've not had a mass shooting here, but you can see the correlation between the no SRO/CEO path to now CEO with an uptick in violence.

Stand to reason that a tragic mass shooting needs to happen in order for the progressives to move on to CEO 3.0, which will be the same as an SRO, only with a different name so it makes them feel better.

PG county’s SRO program and in Montgomery counties CEO program are exactly the same.

Wrong again:
https://www.pgcps.org/offices/safety-and-security-services/position-description-prince-georges-county-police-school-resource-officer

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

dp... here's what we know:

1. Elrich and the progressives got rid of SROs BEFORE a study could be completed, and instead said they'd hire more mental health professionals.

Elrich then says that he wouldn't have pulled out the SROs had he known that MCPS could not fully staff the mental health counselors. Basically, he shot his load too quickly. A year out, they couldn't even hire half the mental health professional, even though ALL the principals wanted to keep them.


https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

MCPS has been slow to hire additional social workers, though, and in a recent interview with Bethesda Beat, Elrich said that if he had known it would have taken such a long time to fill those positions, he would have talked more about an “interim” plan.

https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

2. Two years out, we see an uptick in violence in schools, including incidents involving guns - they bring back cops as CEOs but they have to stay in their office until the Principal calls them

3. we see an ever increasing incidents of violence in schools

What's it going to take for them to go back to full SRO? A mass shooting?

The SROs at Parkland and Uvalde failed to do much to stop those incidents. SROs are clearly not the answer.

There have been cases in other schools that shows SROs can do good. That's why PG has them.

Also, what happens in TX and FL does not apply to MD. Elrich didn't give MCPS a chance to complete the study. Thankfully, we've not had a mass shooting here, but you can see the correlation between the no SRO/CEO path to now CEO with an uptick in violence.

Stand to reason that a tragic mass shooting needs to happen in order for the progressives to move on to CEO 3.0, which will be the same as an SRO, only with a different name so it makes them feel better.

PG county’s SRO program and in Montgomery counties CEO program are exactly the same.

Wrong again:
https://www.pgcps.org/offices/safety-and-security-services/position-description-prince-georges-county-police-school-resource-officer

Exactly the same

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

Anti-SRO PP,

You can change reality all you want. It doesn’t ACTUALLY change reality. Those of us posting about the demise of the SRO program are very well versed in what ACTUALLY happened.

Posting your make-believe isn’t going to convince anybody.

I’m not anti-SRO. I’m for cops in schools, the exact same cops who were in schools 5 years ago are still there. they are in schools and they are called CEOs and they are doing a great job.

Your make believe narrative “cops are not in schools” is wrong and insane.

Elrich himself used "removed from schools language" and it was in MULTIPLE NEWS REPORTS. You are spinning your own reality. Do you work for Elrich or Jawando's offices?

SOURCE: https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/04/montgomery-co-schools-law-enforcement-formalize-agreement-on-police-role-in-schools/

In 2021, Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich said police who operated as school resource officers (SROs) would be removed from schools in the coming year.

Here's another source saying SROs were removed from schools:

SOURCE: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/community-engagement-officers-montgomery-county-public-schools/65-8475c60e-4c4f-4bed-9c46-6b6d07245532

Less than a year after Montgomery County Public Schools became the first Maryland jurisdiction to remove police officers from their buildings, the county is partially reversing course.

SOURCE: https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

Eventually, County Executive Marc Elrich pulled funding for the SRO program, causing officers to leave their school assignments, and unveiled a new school safety model, called the community engagement officer (CEO) program.

SOURCE: https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

A year ago, Montgomery County Executive (CE) Marc Elrich abruptly announced the end of the county’s School Resource Officer (SRO) program. This was before school officials completed a study ordered by the Board of Education seeking more community input about the program.

Now, this week, officials from the Montgomery County Council and the county executive’s office are working out the details for a hybrid program, CEO 2.0 MOU, that would allow police officers to maintain offices in all county high schools and to, again, have direct contact with police.

That’s exactly what I said.

They were put in the parking lots for 1 year. Out if schools.

They came back the next year with offices in the school, with backup for when they are out, rotating through schools for oversight, going to younger schools to build relationships and removed from discipline.

Better program modeled after what PG county dues.

Sorry but we have cops in schools. Go back to banning books.

You jumped the shark with your ridiculous “banning books” comment here. You assume the posters here are right-wing. You are so, so wrong.

I’m a very liberal TEACHER who happens to know FIRST HAND what is going on in the schools. You can’t pull the wool over my eyes. It’s astounding to me that you keep peddling this nonsense, assuming that the people you are responding to are ignorant.

I’m not liberal I’m a conservative who believes in cops in school doing police work and teachers doing teaching and discipline.

Im not your kids disciplinarian, I’m not there to do YOUR job, I’m there to do police work

You are ignorant of you think I’m a counselor or specialist in child development. I’m trained to arrest criminals.

Do your job, I’ll do mine.

So are you claiming to be a CEO? I’m having a hard time believing it. See, my fellow teachers and I didn’t use SROs for school discipline. Basic discipline was not what they were there for. That’s our job, backed up by our admin.

And a current CEO would not use your tone toward a teacher. How do I know? Because I happen to know a couple of them, and they wouldn’t claim they are merely trained to “arrest criminals” as they have additional training to work specifically with the school system. Good try.

If teachers never used cops for discipline then why did they write our job description we would no longer discipline?

I don’t believe you are a teacher, you sound like a lunch lady,

Nice try.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

Anti-SRO PP,

You can change reality all you want. It doesn’t ACTUALLY change reality. Those of us posting about the demise of the SRO program are very well versed in what ACTUALLY happened.

Posting your make-believe isn’t going to convince anybody.

I’m not anti-SRO. I’m for cops in schools, the exact same cops who were in schools 5 years ago are still there. they are in schools and they are called CEOs and they are doing a great job.

Your make believe narrative “cops are not in schools” is wrong and insane.

Elrich himself used "removed from schools language" and it was in MULTIPLE NEWS REPORTS. You are spinning your own reality. Do you work for Elrich or Jawando's offices?

SOURCE: https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/04/montgomery-co-schools-law-enforcement-formalize-agreement-on-police-role-in-schools/

In 2021, Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich said police who operated as school resource officers (SROs) would be removed from schools in the coming year.

Here's another source saying SROs were removed from schools:

SOURCE: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/community-engagement-officers-montgomery-county-public-schools/65-8475c60e-4c4f-4bed-9c46-6b6d07245532

Less than a year after Montgomery County Public Schools became the first Maryland jurisdiction to remove police officers from their buildings, the county is partially reversing course.

SOURCE: https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

Eventually, County Executive Marc Elrich pulled funding for the SRO program, causing officers to leave their school assignments, and unveiled a new school safety model, called the community engagement officer (CEO) program.

SOURCE: https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

A year ago, Montgomery County Executive (CE) Marc Elrich abruptly announced the end of the county’s School Resource Officer (SRO) program. This was before school officials completed a study ordered by the Board of Education seeking more community input about the program.

Now, this week, officials from the Montgomery County Council and the county executive’s office are working out the details for a hybrid program, CEO 2.0 MOU, that would allow police officers to maintain offices in all county high schools and to, again, have direct contact with police.

That’s exactly what I said.

They were put in the parking lots for 1 year. Out if schools.

They came back the next year with offices in the school, with backup for when they are out, rotating through schools for oversight, going to younger schools to build relationships and removed from discipline.

Better program modeled after what PG county dues.

Sorry but we have cops in schools. Go back to banning books.

You jumped the shark with your ridiculous “banning books” comment here. You assume the posters here are right-wing. You are so, so wrong.

I’m a very liberal TEACHER who happens to know FIRST HAND what is going on in the schools. You can’t pull the wool over my eyes. It’s astounding to me that you keep peddling this nonsense, assuming that the people you are responding to are ignorant.

I’m not liberal I’m a conservative who believes in cops in school doing police work and teachers doing teaching and discipline.

Im not your kids disciplinarian, I’m not there to do YOUR job, I’m there to do police work

You are ignorant of you think I’m a counselor or specialist in child development. I’m trained to arrest criminals.

Do your job, I’ll do mine.

So are you claiming to be a CEO? I’m having a hard time believing it. See, my fellow teachers and I didn’t use SROs for school discipline. Basic discipline was not what they were there for. That’s our job, backed up by our admin.

And a current CEO would not use your tone toward a teacher. How do I know? Because I happen to know a couple of them, and they wouldn’t claim they are merely trained to “arrest criminals” as they have additional training to work specifically with the school system. Good try.

Here’s the question - What work are CEO’s not doing now that you think they need to or should be doing?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

Anti-SRO PP,

You can change reality all you want. It doesn’t ACTUALLY change reality. Those of us posting about the demise of the SRO program are very well versed in what ACTUALLY happened.

Posting your make-believe isn’t going to convince anybody.

I’m not anti-SRO. I’m for cops in schools, the exact same cops who were in schools 5 years ago are still there. they are in schools and they are called CEOs and they are doing a great job.

Your make believe narrative “cops are not in schools” is wrong and insane.

Elrich himself used "removed from schools language" and it was in MULTIPLE NEWS REPORTS. You are spinning your own reality. Do you work for Elrich or Jawando's offices?

SOURCE: https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/04/montgomery-co-schools-law-enforcement-formalize-agreement-on-police-role-in-schools/

In 2021, Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich said police who operated as school resource officers (SROs) would be removed from schools in the coming year.

Here's another source saying SROs were removed from schools:

SOURCE: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/community-engagement-officers-montgomery-county-public-schools/65-8475c60e-4c4f-4bed-9c46-6b6d07245532

Less than a year after Montgomery County Public Schools became the first Maryland jurisdiction to remove police officers from their buildings, the county is partially reversing course.

SOURCE: https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

Eventually, County Executive Marc Elrich pulled funding for the SRO program, causing officers to leave their school assignments, and unveiled a new school safety model, called the community engagement officer (CEO) program.

SOURCE: https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

A year ago, Montgomery County Executive (CE) Marc Elrich abruptly announced the end of the county’s School Resource Officer (SRO) program. This was before school officials completed a study ordered by the Board of Education seeking more community input about the program.

Now, this week, officials from the Montgomery County Council and the county executive’s office are working out the details for a hybrid program, CEO 2.0 MOU, that would allow police officers to maintain offices in all county high schools and to, again, have direct contact with police.

That’s exactly what I said.

They were put in the parking lots for 1 year. Out if schools.

They came back the next year with offices in the school, with backup for when they are out, rotating through schools for oversight, going to younger schools to build relationships and removed from discipline.

Better program modeled after what PG county dues.

Sorry but we have cops in schools. Go back to banning books.

You jumped the shark with your ridiculous “banning books” comment here. You assume the posters here are right-wing. You are so, so wrong.

I’m a very liberal TEACHER who happens to know FIRST HAND what is going on in the schools. You can’t pull the wool over my eyes. It’s astounding to me that you keep peddling this nonsense, assuming that the people you are responding to are ignorant.

I’m not liberal I’m a conservative who believes in cops in school doing police work and teachers doing teaching and discipline.

Im not your kids disciplinarian, I’m not there to do YOUR job, I’m there to do police work

You are ignorant of you think I’m a counselor or specialist in child development. I’m trained to arrest criminals.

Do your job, I’ll do mine.

So are you claiming to be a CEO? I’m having a hard time believing it. See, my fellow teachers and I didn’t use SROs for school discipline. Basic discipline was not what they were there for. That’s our job, backed up by our admin.

And a current CEO would not use your tone toward a teacher. How do I know? Because I happen to know a couple of them, and they wouldn’t claim they are merely trained to “arrest criminals” as they have additional training to work specifically with the school system. Good try.

If teachers never used cops for discipline then why did they write our job description we would no longer discipline?

I don’t believe you are a teacher, you sound like a lunch lady,

Nice try.

“Your” job description? Nothing you’ve posted remotely suggests you know anything about CEOs, SROs, or the school system in general. It’s pointless to argue with you. (And, according to your last post, it’s clear you didn’t click on the links upthread that show SRO data, which would clearly and specifically show what type of discipline calls they responded to. It wasn’t standard classroom calls, which is what you are claiming.)

As all of the logic, reasoning, and data falls on my side, I’m getting bored. This is now a waste of my time. I’m out.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

dp... here's what we know:

1. Elrich and the progressives got rid of SROs BEFORE a study could be completed, and instead said they'd hire more mental health professionals.

Elrich then says that he wouldn't have pulled out the SROs had he known that MCPS could not fully staff the mental health counselors. Basically, he shot his load too quickly. A year out, they couldn't even hire half the mental health professional, even though ALL the principals wanted to keep them.


https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

MCPS has been slow to hire additional social workers, though, and in a recent interview with Bethesda Beat, Elrich said that if he had known it would have taken such a long time to fill those positions, he would have talked more about an “interim” plan.

https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

2. Two years out, we see an uptick in violence in schools, including incidents involving guns - they bring back cops as CEOs but they have to stay in their office until the Principal calls them

3. we see an ever increasing incidents of violence in schools

What's it going to take for them to go back to full SRO? A mass shooting?

The SROs at Parkland and Uvalde failed to do much to stop those incidents. SROs are clearly not the answer.

There have been cases in other schools that shows SROs can do good. That's why PG has them.

Also, what happens in TX and FL does not apply to MD. Elrich didn't give MCPS a chance to complete the study. Thankfully, we've not had a mass shooting here, but you can see the correlation between the no SRO/CEO path to now CEO with an uptick in violence.

Stand to reason that a tragic mass shooting needs to happen in order for the progressives to move on to CEO 3.0, which will be the same as an SRO, only with a different name so it makes them feel better.

I'm sure there are one or two instances where they helped out, but more often that's not the case.

MCPS was in the middle of conducting a study on SROs in MCPS and how effective they were, but Elrich pulled the plug before they could finish the study.

There is no definitive study that says either or. MCPS' preliminary study indicated that it was a mixed bag.

https://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/C2S2RR727C3F/$file/SRO%20Program%20210511.pdf

Now you cite your source that "there are one or two instances where they helped out, but more often that's not the case."

So you think having SROs run away from a shooter like in Parkland is going to help your case?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

Anti-SRO PP,

You can change reality all you want. It doesn’t ACTUALLY change reality. Those of us posting about the demise of the SRO program are very well versed in what ACTUALLY happened.

Posting your make-believe isn’t going to convince anybody.

I’m not anti-SRO. I’m for cops in schools, the exact same cops who were in schools 5 years ago are still there. they are in schools and they are called CEOs and they are doing a great job.

Your make believe narrative “cops are not in schools” is wrong and insane.

Elrich himself used "removed from schools language" and it was in MULTIPLE NEWS REPORTS. You are spinning your own reality. Do you work for Elrich or Jawando's offices?

SOURCE: https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/04/montgomery-co-schools-law-enforcement-formalize-agreement-on-police-role-in-schools/

In 2021, Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich said police who operated as school resource officers (SROs) would be removed from schools in the coming year.

Here's another source saying SROs were removed from schools:

SOURCE: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/community-engagement-officers-montgomery-county-public-schools/65-8475c60e-4c4f-4bed-9c46-6b6d07245532

Less than a year after Montgomery County Public Schools became the first Maryland jurisdiction to remove police officers from their buildings, the county is partially reversing course.

SOURCE: https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

Eventually, County Executive Marc Elrich pulled funding for the SRO program, causing officers to leave their school assignments, and unveiled a new school safety model, called the community engagement officer (CEO) program.

SOURCE: https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

A year ago, Montgomery County Executive (CE) Marc Elrich abruptly announced the end of the county’s School Resource Officer (SRO) program. This was before school officials completed a study ordered by the Board of Education seeking more community input about the program.

Now, this week, officials from the Montgomery County Council and the county executive’s office are working out the details for a hybrid program, CEO 2.0 MOU, that would allow police officers to maintain offices in all county high schools and to, again, have direct contact with police.

That’s exactly what I said.

They were put in the parking lots for 1 year. Out if schools.

They came back the next year with offices in the school, with backup for when they are out, rotating through schools for oversight, going to younger schools to build relationships and removed from discipline.

Better program modeled after what PG county dues.

Sorry but we have cops in schools. Go back to banning books.

You jumped the shark with your ridiculous “banning books” comment here. You assume the posters here are right-wing. You are so, so wrong.

I’m a very liberal TEACHER who happens to know FIRST HAND what is going on in the schools. You can’t pull the wool over my eyes. It’s astounding to me that you keep peddling this nonsense, assuming that the people you are responding to are ignorant.

I’m not liberal I’m a conservative who believes in cops in school doing police work and teachers doing teaching and discipline.

Im not your kids disciplinarian, I’m not there to do YOUR job, I’m there to do police work

You are ignorant of you think I’m a counselor or specialist in child development. I’m trained to arrest criminals.

Do your job, I’ll do mine.

So are you claiming to be a CEO? I’m having a hard time believing it. See, my fellow teachers and I didn’t use SROs for school discipline. Basic discipline was not what they were there for. That’s our job, backed up by our admin.

And a current CEO would not use your tone toward a teacher. How do I know? Because I happen to know a couple of them, and they wouldn’t claim they are merely trained to “arrest criminals” as they have additional training to work specifically with the school system. Good try.

If teachers never used cops for discipline then why did they write our job description we would no longer discipline?

I don’t believe you are a teacher, you sound like a lunch lady,

Nice try.

“Your” job description? Nothing you’ve posted remotely suggests you know anything about CEOs, SROs, or the school system in general. It’s pointless to argue with you. (And, according to your last post, it’s clear you didn’t click on the links upthread that show SRO data, which would clearly and specifically show what type of discipline calls they responded to. It wasn’t standard classroom calls, which is what you are claiming.)

As all of the logic, reasoning, and data falls on my side, I’m getting bored. This is now a waste of my time. I’m out.

Bye Felicia

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like removing the SROs was the right call since the CEO program seems to be working fine.

Actually, no. Look at MCPS crime data and filter on place "school." Now compare the results before SROs were removed and after SROs were removed. The difference is telling. Bottomline, crime has increased since SROs were removed from schools.

+1 PG county has decided to keep SROs. MCPS Principals all want them. The only adults who don't want them are progressive liberals who probably don't have kids in schools with violent kids.

This. My kids attend a school with tons of fights and no, they don't feel safe despite the progressive liberals who think that RJ makes everything better. Of course they wouldn't know (or care) because their kids either don't attend schools where fights are the norm or they no longer have school-aged kids.

You know, I think it's something different. I was privy to a lot of the discussions around getting rid of SROs due to my professional role at the time, and the loudest voices were from white women who live in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. They actually do have kids in these schools, and those kids are part of the problem. In general, the Black (predominantly East African immigrant) families in our schools wanted the SROs to stay, and the white parents with disruptive boys wanted them gone.

You don’t seem to be that knowledgeable since SRO’s didn’t go away they just got a new name

We are well aware that the SRO program ***was*** disbanded, only to be brought back later in a scaled-back CEO form.

You can choose to ignore that fact. The CEO program came back only when the council realized they made a mistake getting rid of SROs.

Bingo. The revisionist history that tries to claim they "never" went away is patently false. They did. But Elrich and the Council realized their mistake quickly when serious incidents in schools started piling up and they tried to walk back their decision without stating they were walking it back.

They never went away. They were in the parking lot for 1 year, they went back into schools the next year and we implemented the exact same plan as PGPS.

You are sorely mistaken. SROs are no longer a part of schools- not the way they were previously implemented. The SROs were dedicated solely to ONE high school. THey were cops trained specifically to deal with youth, and who were very much involved in the school. They helped staff, the kids knew them, and they were a trusted source acting as a role model to many kids who didn't have one. This model is gone. Since the dismantling of the SRO model, we have seen an uptick in violence and crime at schools.

You are the one who is completely wrong.

dp... here's what we know:

1. Elrich and the progressives got rid of SROs BEFORE a study could be completed, and instead said they'd hire more mental health professionals.

Elrich then says that he wouldn't have pulled out the SROs had he known that MCPS could not fully staff the mental health counselors. Basically, he shot his load too quickly. A year out, they couldn't even hire half the mental health professional, even though ALL the principals wanted to keep them.


https://moco360.media/2022/04/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-police-officers-in-montgomery-county-schools/

MCPS has been slow to hire additional social workers, though, and in a recent interview with Bethesda Beat, Elrich said that if he had known it would have taken such a long time to fill those positions, he would have talked more about an “interim” plan.

https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/montgomery-county-public-schools-school-resource-officers-police-council-marc-elrich-students-parents-study-feedback-hybrid-program

2. Two years out, we see an uptick in violence in schools, including incidents involving guns - they bring back cops as CEOs but they have to stay in their office until the Principal calls them

3. we see an ever increasing incidents of violence in schools

What's it going to take for them to go back to full SRO? A mass shooting?

The SROs at Parkland and Uvalde failed to do much to stop those incidents. SROs are clearly not the answer.

There have been cases in other schools that shows SROs can do good. That's why PG has them.

Also, what happens in TX and FL does not apply to MD. Elrich didn't give MCPS a chance to complete the study. Thankfully, we've not had a mass shooting here, but you can see the correlation between the no SRO/CEO path to now CEO with an uptick in violence.

Stand to reason that a tragic mass shooting needs to happen in order for the progressives to move on to CEO 3.0, which will be the same as an SRO, only with a different name so it makes them feel better.

I'm sure there are one or two instances where they helped out, but more often that's not the case.

MCPS was in the middle of conducting a study on SROs in MCPS and how effective they were, but Elrich pulled the plug before they could finish the study.

There is no definitive study that says either or. MCPS' preliminary study indicated that it was a mixed bag.

https://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/C2S2RR727C3F/$file/SRO%20Program%20210511.pdf

Now you cite your source that "there are one or two instances where they helped out, but more often that's not the case."

So you think having SROs run away from a shooter like in Parkland is going to help your case?

Do you think the uptick in violence and gun incidents is helping yours? Why do all the Principals want SROs?

Someone said CEO and SROs are the same. If that's the case then why call it CEO? Just for optics?