Kangaroos are terrifying and no one is talking about it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the animals REALLY most likely to kill you in Australia
By Gemma Chilton • March 22, 2016

Horses and cows and dogs, oh my!

https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topic

Back in 2011, Australia’s National Coronial Information System (NCIS) released its most recent report into the trends and patterns surrounding animal-related deaths in Australia, covering the first decade of this century.

Of the 254 confirmed and reported animal-related deaths during that 10-year period, horses, cows and dogs were the most frequent culprits, accounting for 137 deaths.
Horses (including ponies and donkeys) were the most ‘deadly’ animal in Australia, causing 77 deaths in 10 years, mostly related to falls. Cows (including bulls and cattle/bovine) accounted for 33 deaths – 16 by causing motor vehicle accidents, the rest by crushing, piercing or ‘unknown’. The majority of the 27 deaths caused by the third biggest killer, dogs, were from attacks, with those deaths mostly occurring in children under four years old and in elderly people.

Shoot the messenger?
In case you hadn’t cottoned on yet, it turns out most of our perception of risk is somewhat out of whack when it comes to judging the likelihood of a deadly encounter with certain animals (what’s scarier, surfing near a river mouth at dawn, or visiting a friend’s dairy farm?).

“Our perceptions of the probability of an event has been shown to depend on its availability – how easily we are able to bring such events to mind,” explains Professor John Dunn, from the University of Adelaide’s School of Psychology.

“Events appear on the news and/or are talked about because they are noteworthy, unusual, or dramatic. As a result, these kinds of events are more available and hence we overestimate their probability of occurrence,” he says.

As usual, spiders, snakes and marsupials taking the wrap for domesticated mammals …

Grew up in Australia and regularly visit family there. We often visit wild life sanctuaries that offer feeding of kangaroos and wallabies (and crocks for that matter).

I personally have never experienced run ins with Roos and don’t know anyone else who has either. Kangaroos are akin to North American deer in terms of numbers and hence do bother some farmers. But they do not cause as many car accidents as deer. Roos are extremely efficient at procreating and often have three generations of young at one time (in womb/ in pouch and indecent but coming home to mum to drink occasionally).

I don’t know anyone who has been bitten by venomous spiders (one distant cousin was bitten by a snake).

Australia is the most highly urbanized country in the world. Even in the cities, people tend to be respectful of nature and take due precautions.

As cited in article, the highest number of animal related fatalities in Australia are due to interactions with domesticated mammals.

Thankful that Australia has sensible gun safety laws after the massacre at the historical tourist site in Tasmania many years ago. Human on human violence is the scariest of all.

Not even close. Australia is 86.5%, after Japan, Oman, UAE and many others.

Countries with 100% urban populations:
Anguilla
Bermuda
Cayman Islands
Gibraltar
Hong Kong
Kuwait
Macau
Monaco
Nauru
Saint Maarten
Singapore
Vatican City

Ok I stand corrected - it is among the most highly urbanized societies in world. Thanks for looking it up!

The main point being the vast majority of Australians live in cities near coast lines. Very few have dangerous encounters with kangaroos.

I believe cassowaries are endangered so no great risk there either. We actually experienced family of cassowaries living near our accommodations in the tropics - and even they left us alone if we left them alone.

I have been chased by emus wanting my Vegemite sandwiches but just jumped up on a picnic table and that was the end of that chase .

I was bitten by a neighbors dog as a kid. That is much more common.

Bottom line: risk to most Australians from aggro Kangas is minimal.

Menacing cassowaries, satanic magpies, stalker emus, vegemite sandwiches-- no thank you. I just have to question why it's taken so long for the truth to come out.

Yes Australia is a terrifying place for sure: Universal health care, subsidized tertiary education, sensible gun safety laws, liberal democracy that bans hate speech and inciting violence against people on basis of religion or race and high standards of living for majority.

No problem if it is not for you: immigration to Australia and New Zealand is highly competitive. (US is wonderful country also and no where is perfect)


Move Hub: The Best Countries to Move to in 2023

Written by Josh Jackman
Updated on August 24, 2023

It’s been a difficult few years, but with COVID-19 restrictions a thing of the past, you can now move abroad wherever your heart desires (subject to international laws).

Welcome then to the 2023 edition of our Best Countries ranking, which sees us rate nations on gender, racial and LGBT equality, economic conditions, quality of life, environmental strategy, happiness, and how well the government provides basic services.

Pick your favourite, and don’t look back – after all, 63% of expats increase their disposable income after moving, and 67% enjoy a higher quality of life in their new country, according to HSBC.

When inspiration strikes – or if it already has – you can fill in this form to get the best quotes on shipping your possessions to your new home.

The Best Countries to Move to in 2023:

1. New Zealand
2. Switzerland
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Netherlands
6. Norway
7. Sweden
8. Denmark
9. Finland

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep reading horror stories about kangaroos punching people and stealing dogs. Today I read an article that showed this dead-eyed kangaroo, standing over a dog he was drowning for fun, looking like a psychopathic, roided-out mutant rabbit. No one is talking about this. On the contrary, we tell our kids that kangaroos are adorable and have cute baby pouches. What's with the kangaroo lobby selling us cute cartoons while our allies down under live in terror of these beasts? I can't be the only American to have undergone this slow and shocking realization that everything I'd been told about kangaroos is a lie.

https://mol.im/a/12635687

Kangaroos are very terrifying until you've been lunged at and spit on by a llama. Ilama awareness is now my sole focus. I'm sorry I don't have time right now for kangaroo kerfuffles.

[Anonymous]

Kangaroos are lucky they live in Australia, and not the US. All of the gun nuts would reduce the herd here, especially if they come after dogs and livestock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I keep reading horror stories about kangaroos punching people and stealing dogs. Today I read an article that showed this dead-eyed kangaroo, standing over a dog he was drowning for fun, looking like a psychopathic, roided-out mutant rabbit. No one is talking about this. On the contrary, we tell our kids that kangaroos are adorable and have cute baby pouches. What's with the kangaroo lobby selling us cute cartoons while our allies down under live in terror of these beasts? I can't be the only American to have undergone this slow and shocking realization that everything I'd been told about kangaroos is a lie.

https://mol.im/a/12635687

Kangaroos are very terrifying until you've been lunged at and spit on by a llama. Ilama awareness is now my sole focus. I'm sorry I don't have time right now for kangaroo kerfuffles.

Same. But not llamas. It's the enormous cave crickets that descend on our house in the fall. They are terrorizing us in the basement. I swear they stalk me from room to room.

[Anonymous]

Kangaroos are nuts!!! 50% of their body weight is pure muscle and then they clearly have rage issues they're not dealing with at all. Drowning dogs and punching humans is not ok!

https://wildexplained.com/blog/why-are-kangaroos-so-buff/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I keep reading horror stories about kangaroos punching people and stealing dogs. Today I read an article that showed this dead-eyed kangaroo, standing over a dog he was drowning for fun, looking like a psychopathic, roided-out mutant rabbit. No one is talking about this. On the contrary, we tell our kids that kangaroos are adorable and have cute baby pouches. What's with the kangaroo lobby selling us cute cartoons while our allies down under live in terror of these beasts? I can't be the only American to have undergone this slow and shocking realization that everything I'd been told about kangaroos is a lie.

https://mol.im/a/12635687

Kangaroos are very terrifying until you've been lunged at and spit on by a llama. Ilama awareness is now my sole focus. I'm sorry I don't have time right now for kangaroo kerfuffles.

Same. But not llamas. It's the enormous cave crickets that descend on our house in the fall. They are terrorizing us in the basement. I swear they stalk me from room to room.

If you can't handle a few cave crickets, you are a sissy. Even if it's 100 of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I keep reading horror stories about kangaroos punching people and stealing dogs. Today I read an article that showed this dead-eyed kangaroo, standing over a dog he was drowning for fun, looking like a psychopathic, roided-out mutant rabbit. No one is talking about this. On the contrary, we tell our kids that kangaroos are adorable and have cute baby pouches. What's with the kangaroo lobby selling us cute cartoons while our allies down under live in terror of these beasts? I can't be the only American to have undergone this slow and shocking realization that everything I'd been told about kangaroos is a lie.

https://mol.im/a/12635687

Kangaroos are very terrifying until you've been lunged at and spit on by a llama. Ilama awareness is now my sole focus. I'm sorry I don't have time right now for kangaroo kerfuffles.

Same. But not llamas. It's the enormous cave crickets that descend on our house in the fall. They are terrorizing us in the basement. I swear they stalk me from room to room.

Crickets are not even in the same ballpark as buff kangaroos or looney llamas. You can very easily stomp crickets you will never be able to stomp a kangaroo or llama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I keep reading horror stories about kangaroos punching people and stealing dogs. Today I read an article that showed this dead-eyed kangaroo, standing over a dog he was drowning for fun, looking like a psychopathic, roided-out mutant rabbit. No one is talking about this. On the contrary, we tell our kids that kangaroos are adorable and have cute baby pouches. What's with the kangaroo lobby selling us cute cartoons while our allies down under live in terror of these beasts? I can't be the only American to have undergone this slow and shocking realization that everything I'd been told about kangaroos is a lie.

https://mol.im/a/12635687

Kangaroos are very terrifying until you've been lunged at and spit on by a llama. Ilama awareness is now my sole focus. I'm sorry I don't have time right now for kangaroo kerfuffles.

Same. But not llamas. It's the enormous cave crickets that descend on our house in the fall. They are terrorizing us in the basement. I swear they stalk me from room to room.

Crickets are not even in the same ballpark as buff kangaroos or looney llamas. You can very easily stomp crickets you will never be able to stomp a kangaroo or llama.

You obviously haven't met these ninja crickets who resist and dodge all attempts at annihilation. The cat manages a few, but admittedly, she is more athletic than any of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I keep reading horror stories about kangaroos punching people and stealing dogs. Today I read an article that showed this dead-eyed kangaroo, standing over a dog he was drowning for fun, looking like a psychopathic, roided-out mutant rabbit. No one is talking about this. On the contrary, we tell our kids that kangaroos are adorable and have cute baby pouches. What's with the kangaroo lobby selling us cute cartoons while our allies down under live in terror of these beasts? I can't be the only American to have undergone this slow and shocking realization that everything I'd been told about kangaroos is a lie.

https://mol.im/a/12635687

Kangaroos are very terrifying until you've been lunged at and spit on by a llama. Ilama awareness is now my sole focus. I'm sorry I don't have time right now for kangaroo kerfuffles.

Same. But not llamas. It's the enormous cave crickets that descend on our house in the fall. They are terrorizing us in the basement. I swear they stalk me from room to room.

If you can't handle a few cave crickets, you are a sissy. Even if it's 100 of them.

100 cave crickets is nightmare fuel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the animals REALLY most likely to kill you in Australia
By Gemma Chilton • March 22, 2016

Horses and cows and dogs, oh my!

https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topic

Back in 2011, Australia’s National Coronial Information System (NCIS) released its most recent report into the trends and patterns surrounding animal-related deaths in Australia, covering the first decade of this century.

Of the 254 confirmed and reported animal-related deaths during that 10-year period, horses, cows and dogs were the most frequent culprits, accounting for 137 deaths.
Horses (including ponies and donkeys) were the most ‘deadly’ animal in Australia, causing 77 deaths in 10 years, mostly related to falls. Cows (including bulls and cattle/bovine) accounted for 33 deaths – 16 by causing motor vehicle accidents, the rest by crushing, piercing or ‘unknown’. The majority of the 27 deaths caused by the third biggest killer, dogs, were from attacks, with those deaths mostly occurring in children under four years old and in elderly people.

Shoot the messenger?
In case you hadn’t cottoned on yet, it turns out most of our perception of risk is somewhat out of whack when it comes to judging the likelihood of a deadly encounter with certain animals (what’s scarier, surfing near a river mouth at dawn, or visiting a friend’s dairy farm?).

“Our perceptions of the probability of an event has been shown to depend on its availability – how easily we are able to bring such events to mind,” explains Professor John Dunn, from the University of Adelaide’s School of Psychology.

“Events appear on the news and/or are talked about because they are noteworthy, unusual, or dramatic. As a result, these kinds of events are more available and hence we overestimate their probability of occurrence,” he says.

As usual, spiders, snakes and marsupials taking the wrap for domesticated mammals …

Grew up in Australia and regularly visit family there. We often visit wild life sanctuaries that offer feeding of kangaroos and wallabies (and crocks for that matter).

I personally have never experienced run ins with Roos and don’t know anyone else who has either. Kangaroos are akin to North American deer in terms of numbers and hence do bother some farmers. But they do not cause as many car accidents as deer. Roos are extremely efficient at procreating and often have three generations of young at one time (in womb/ in pouch and indecent but coming home to mum to drink occasionally).

I don’t know anyone who has been bitten by venomous spiders (one distant cousin was bitten by a snake).

Australia is the most highly urbanized country in the world. Even in the cities, people tend to be respectful of nature and take due precautions.

As cited in article, the highest number of animal related fatalities in Australia are due to interactions with domesticated mammals.

Thankful that Australia has sensible gun safety laws after the massacre at the historical tourist site in Tasmania many years ago. Human on human violence is the scariest of all.

This is so spot on for an Australian to post.

[Anonymous]

oh, my, for some reason, I thought a magpie was a bug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the animals REALLY most likely to kill you in Australia
By Gemma Chilton • March 22, 2016

Horses and cows and dogs, oh my!

https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topic

Back in 2011, Australia’s National Coronial Information System (NCIS) released its most recent report into the trends and patterns surrounding animal-related deaths in Australia, covering the first decade of this century.

Of the 254 confirmed and reported animal-related deaths during that 10-year period, horses, cows and dogs were the most frequent culprits, accounting for 137 deaths.
Horses (including ponies and donkeys) were the most ‘deadly’ animal in Australia, causing 77 deaths in 10 years, mostly related to falls. Cows (including bulls and cattle/bovine) accounted for 33 deaths – 16 by causing motor vehicle accidents, the rest by crushing, piercing or ‘unknown’. The majority of the 27 deaths caused by the third biggest killer, dogs, were from attacks, with those deaths mostly occurring in children under four years old and in elderly people.

Shoot the messenger?
In case you hadn’t cottoned on yet, it turns out most of our perception of risk is somewhat out of whack when it comes to judging the likelihood of a deadly encounter with certain animals (what’s scarier, surfing near a river mouth at dawn, or visiting a friend’s dairy farm?).

“Our perceptions of the probability of an event has been shown to depend on its availability – how easily we are able to bring such events to mind,” explains Professor John Dunn, from the University of Adelaide’s School of Psychology.

“Events appear on the news and/or are talked about because they are noteworthy, unusual, or dramatic. As a result, these kinds of events are more available and hence we overestimate their probability of occurrence,” he says.

As usual, spiders, snakes and marsupials taking the wrap for domesticated mammals …

Grew up in Australia and regularly visit family there. We often visit wild life sanctuaries that offer feeding of kangaroos and wallabies (and crocks for that matter).

I personally have never experienced run ins with Roos and don’t know anyone else who has either. Kangaroos are akin to North American deer in terms of numbers and hence do bother some farmers. But they do not cause as many car accidents as deer. Roos are extremely efficient at procreating and often have three generations of young at one time (in womb/ in pouch and indecent but coming home to mum to drink occasionally).

I don’t know anyone who has been bitten by venomous spiders (one distant cousin was bitten by a snake).

Australia is the most highly urbanized country in the world. Even in the cities, people tend to be respectful of nature and take due precautions.

As cited in article, the highest number of animal related fatalities in Australia are due to interactions with domesticated mammals.

Thankful that Australia has sensible gun safety laws after the massacre at the historical tourist site in Tasmania many years ago. Human on human violence is the scariest of all.

Not even close. Australia is 86.5%, after Japan, Oman, UAE and many others.

Countries with 100% urban populations:
Anguilla
Bermuda
Cayman Islands
Gibraltar
Hong Kong
Kuwait
Macau
Monaco
Nauru
Saint Maarten
Singapore
Vatican City

Ok I stand corrected - it is among the most highly urbanized societies in world. Thanks for looking it up!

The main point being the vast majority of Australians live in cities near coast lines. Very few have dangerous encounters with kangaroos.

I believe cassowaries are endangered so no great risk there either. We actually experienced family of cassowaries living near our accommodations in the tropics - and even they left us alone if we left them alone.

I have been chased by emus wanting my Vegemite sandwiches but just jumped up on a picnic table and that was the end of that chase .

I was bitten by a neighbors dog as a kid. That is much more common.

Bottom line: risk to most Australians from aggro Kangas is minimal.

Menacing cassowaries, satanic magpies, stalker emus, vegemite sandwiches-- no thank you. I just have to question why it's taken so long for the truth to come out.

Yes Australia is a terrifying place for sure: Universal health care, subsidized tertiary education, sensible gun safety laws, liberal democracy that bans hate speech and inciting violence against people on basis of religion or race and high standards of living for majority.

No problem if it is not for you: immigration to Australia and New Zealand is highly competitive. (US is wonderful country also and no where is perfect)


Move Hub: The Best Countries to Move to in 2023

Written by Josh Jackman
Updated on August 24, 2023

It’s been a difficult few years, but with COVID-19 restrictions a thing of the past, you can now move abroad wherever your heart desires (subject to international laws).

Welcome then to the 2023 edition of our Best Countries ranking, which sees us rate nations on gender, racial and LGBT equality, economic conditions, quality of life, environmental strategy, happiness, and how well the government provides basic services.

Pick your favourite, and don’t look back – after all, 63% of expats increase their disposable income after moving, and 67% enjoy a higher quality of life in their new country, according to HSBC.

When inspiration strikes – or if it already has – you can fill in this form to get the best quotes on shipping your possessions to your new home.

The Best Countries to Move to in 2023:

1. New Zealand
2. Switzerland
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Netherlands
6. Norway
7. Sweden
8. Denmark
9. Finland

It's a bit odd to come to your wildlife's defense with a criticism of the US. If an Aussie noted that our rattlesnakes or bears were terrifying, Americans would seen, understood. They wouldn't be offended on the bears and snakes behalf. But the osentsible human-beast alliance in Australia does raise some uncomfortable questions about where we really stand with one of our closest allies.

[Anonymous]

Polar bears are not, in fact, the cuddly and gentle cousins to grizzlies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the animals REALLY most likely to kill you in Australia
By Gemma Chilton • March 22, 2016

Horses and cows and dogs, oh my!

https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topic

Back in 2011, Australia’s National Coronial Information System (NCIS) released its most recent report into the trends and patterns surrounding animal-related deaths in Australia, covering the first decade of this century.

Of the 254 confirmed and reported animal-related deaths during that 10-year period, horses, cows and dogs were the most frequent culprits, accounting for 137 deaths.
Horses (including ponies and donkeys) were the most ‘deadly’ animal in Australia, causing 77 deaths in 10 years, mostly related to falls. Cows (including bulls and cattle/bovine) accounted for 33 deaths – 16 by causing motor vehicle accidents, the rest by crushing, piercing or ‘unknown’. The majority of the 27 deaths caused by the third biggest killer, dogs, were from attacks, with those deaths mostly occurring in children under four years old and in elderly people.

Shoot the messenger?
In case you hadn’t cottoned on yet, it turns out most of our perception of risk is somewhat out of whack when it comes to judging the likelihood of a deadly encounter with certain animals (what’s scarier, surfing near a river mouth at dawn, or visiting a friend’s dairy farm?).

“Our perceptions of the probability of an event has been shown to depend on its availability – how easily we are able to bring such events to mind,” explains Professor John Dunn, from the University of Adelaide’s School of Psychology.

“Events appear on the news and/or are talked about because they are noteworthy, unusual, or dramatic. As a result, these kinds of events are more available and hence we overestimate their probability of occurrence,” he says.

As usual, spiders, snakes and marsupials taking the wrap for domesticated mammals …

Grew up in Australia and regularly visit family there. We often visit wild life sanctuaries that offer feeding of kangaroos and wallabies (and crocks for that matter).

I personally have never experienced run ins with Roos and don’t know anyone else who has either. Kangaroos are akin to North American deer in terms of numbers and hence do bother some farmers. But they do not cause as many car accidents as deer. Roos are extremely efficient at procreating and often have three generations of young at one time (in womb/ in pouch and indecent but coming home to mum to drink occasionally).

I don’t know anyone who has been bitten by venomous spiders (one distant cousin was bitten by a snake).

Australia is the most highly urbanized country in the world. Even in the cities, people tend to be respectful of nature and take due precautions.

As cited in article, the highest number of animal related fatalities in Australia are due to interactions with domesticated mammals.

Thankful that Australia has sensible gun safety laws after the massacre at the historical tourist site in Tasmania many years ago. Human on human violence is the scariest of all.

Not even close. Australia is 86.5%, after Japan, Oman, UAE and many others.

Countries with 100% urban populations:
Anguilla
Bermuda
Cayman Islands
Gibraltar
Hong Kong
Kuwait
Macau
Monaco
Nauru
Saint Maarten
Singapore
Vatican City

Ok I stand corrected - it is among the most highly urbanized societies in world. Thanks for looking it up!

The main point being the vast majority of Australians live in cities near coast lines. Very few have dangerous encounters with kangaroos.

I believe cassowaries are endangered so no great risk there either. We actually experienced family of cassowaries living near our accommodations in the tropics - and even they left us alone if we left them alone.

I have been chased by emus wanting my Vegemite sandwiches but just jumped up on a picnic table and that was the end of that chase .

I was bitten by a neighbors dog as a kid. That is much more common.

Bottom line: risk to most Australians from aggro Kangas is minimal.

Menacing cassowaries, satanic magpies, stalker emus, vegemite sandwiches-- no thank you. I just have to question why it's taken so long for the truth to come out.

Yes Australia is a terrifying place for sure: Universal health care, subsidized tertiary education, sensible gun safety laws, liberal democracy that bans hate speech and inciting violence against people on basis of religion or race and high standards of living for majority.

No problem if it is not for you: immigration to Australia and New Zealand is highly competitive. (US is wonderful country also and no where is perfect)


Move Hub: The Best Countries to Move to in 2023

Written by Josh Jackman
Updated on August 24, 2023

It’s been a difficult few years, but with COVID-19 restrictions a thing of the past, you can now move abroad wherever your heart desires (subject to international laws).

Welcome then to the 2023 edition of our Best Countries ranking, which sees us rate nations on gender, racial and LGBT equality, economic conditions, quality of life, environmental strategy, happiness, and how well the government provides basic services.

Pick your favourite, and don’t look back – after all, 63% of expats increase their disposable income after moving, and 67% enjoy a higher quality of life in their new country, according to HSBC.

When inspiration strikes – or if it already has – you can fill in this form to get the best quotes on shipping your possessions to your new home.

The Best Countries to Move to in 2023:

1. New Zealand
2. Switzerland
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Netherlands
6. Norway
7. Sweden
8. Denmark
9. Finland

It's a bit odd to come to your wildlife's defense with a criticism of the US. If an Aussie noted that our rattlesnakes or bears were terrifying, Americans would seen, understood. They wouldn't be offended on the bears and snakes behalf. But the osentsible human-beast alliance in Australia does raise some uncomfortable questions about where we really stand with one of our closest allies.

Where did I criticize the US? I said it is also a wonderful country …

The point being made was that it no where near the terrifying place represented in many places with everything out to kill you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the animals REALLY most likely to kill you in Australia
By Gemma Chilton • March 22, 2016

Horses and cows and dogs, oh my!

https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topic

Back in 2011, Australia’s National Coronial Information System (NCIS) released its most recent report into the trends and patterns surrounding animal-related deaths in Australia, covering the first decade of this century.

Of the 254 confirmed and reported animal-related deaths during that 10-year period, horses, cows and dogs were the most frequent culprits, accounting for 137 deaths.
Horses (including ponies and donkeys) were the most ‘deadly’ animal in Australia, causing 77 deaths in 10 years, mostly related to falls. Cows (including bulls and cattle/bovine) accounted for 33 deaths – 16 by causing motor vehicle accidents, the rest by crushing, piercing or ‘unknown’. The majority of the 27 deaths caused by the third biggest killer, dogs, were from attacks, with those deaths mostly occurring in children under four years old and in elderly people.

Shoot the messenger?
In case you hadn’t cottoned on yet, it turns out most of our perception of risk is somewhat out of whack when it comes to judging the likelihood of a deadly encounter with certain animals (what’s scarier, surfing near a river mouth at dawn, or visiting a friend’s dairy farm?).

“Our perceptions of the probability of an event has been shown to depend on its availability – how easily we are able to bring such events to mind,” explains Professor John Dunn, from the University of Adelaide’s School of Psychology.

“Events appear on the news and/or are talked about because they are noteworthy, unusual, or dramatic. As a result, these kinds of events are more available and hence we overestimate their probability of occurrence,” he says.

As usual, spiders, snakes and marsupials taking the wrap for domesticated mammals …

Grew up in Australia and regularly visit family there. We often visit wild life sanctuaries that offer feeding of kangaroos and wallabies (and crocks for that matter).

I personally have never experienced run ins with Roos and don’t know anyone else who has either. Kangaroos are akin to North American deer in terms of numbers and hence do bother some farmers. But they do not cause as many car accidents as deer. Roos are extremely efficient at procreating and often have three generations of young at one time (in womb/ in pouch and indecent but coming home to mum to drink occasionally).

I don’t know anyone who has been bitten by venomous spiders (one distant cousin was bitten by a snake).

Australia is the most highly urbanized country in the world. Even in the cities, people tend to be respectful of nature and take due precautions.

As cited in article, the highest number of animal related fatalities in Australia are due to interactions with domesticated mammals.

Thankful that Australia has sensible gun safety laws after the massacre at the historical tourist site in Tasmania many years ago. Human on human violence is the scariest of all.

Not even close. Australia is 86.5%, after Japan, Oman, UAE and many others.

Countries with 100% urban populations:
Anguilla
Bermuda
Cayman Islands
Gibraltar
Hong Kong
Kuwait
Macau
Monaco
Nauru
Saint Maarten
Singapore
Vatican City

Ok I stand corrected - it is among the most highly urbanized societies in world. Thanks for looking it up!

The main point being the vast majority of Australians live in cities near coast lines. Very few have dangerous encounters with kangaroos.

I believe cassowaries are endangered so no great risk there either. We actually experienced family of cassowaries living near our accommodations in the tropics - and even they left us alone if we left them alone.

I have been chased by emus wanting my Vegemite sandwiches but just jumped up on a picnic table and that was the end of that chase .

I was bitten by a neighbors dog as a kid. That is much more common.

Bottom line: risk to most Australians from aggro Kangas is minimal.

Menacing cassowaries, satanic magpies, stalker emus, vegemite sandwiches-- no thank you. I just have to question why it's taken so long for the truth to come out.

Yes Australia is a terrifying place for sure: Universal health care, subsidized tertiary education, sensible gun safety laws, liberal democracy that bans hate speech and inciting violence against people on basis of religion or race and high standards of living for majority.

No problem if it is not for you: immigration to Australia and New Zealand is highly competitive. (US is wonderful country also and no where is perfect)


Move Hub: The Best Countries to Move to in 2023

Written by Josh Jackman
Updated on August 24, 2023

It’s been a difficult few years, but with COVID-19 restrictions a thing of the past, you can now move abroad wherever your heart desires (subject to international laws).

Welcome then to the 2023 edition of our Best Countries ranking, which sees us rate nations on gender, racial and LGBT equality, economic conditions, quality of life, environmental strategy, happiness, and how well the government provides basic services.

Pick your favourite, and don’t look back – after all, 63% of expats increase their disposable income after moving, and 67% enjoy a higher quality of life in their new country, according to HSBC.

When inspiration strikes – or if it already has – you can fill in this form to get the best quotes on shipping your possessions to your new home.

The Best Countries to Move to in 2023:

1. New Zealand
2. Switzerland
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Netherlands
6. Norway
7. Sweden
8. Denmark
9. Finland

It's a bit odd to come to your wildlife's defense with a criticism of the US. If an Aussie noted that our rattlesnakes or bears were terrifying, Americans would seen, understood. They wouldn't be offended on the bears and snakes behalf. But the osentsible human-beast alliance in Australia does raise some uncomfortable questions about where we really stand with one of our closest allies.

Where did I criticize the US? I said it is also a wonderful country …

The point being made was that it no where near the terrifying place represented in many places with everything out to kill you.

Guys take a look at this exchange. It's two kangas trying to distract us from the real problem. I will not be distracted. I'm about two emails away from getting kangas classified as biological weapons.