Murder of Metro Employee at Potomac Avenue Metro

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Anonymous wrote:Happens every time:

Court records show Isaiah Trotman was charged with assault and battery in November 2021, only to have those charges dismissed six months later by Albemarle County, Va., prosecutor Jim Hingeley.

We're doing this to ourselves electing people who deliberately keep madmen on the streets to kill. At least the people of Albemarle County were lucky to have him go kill somewhere else.


Isn't it amazing how many of the mentally-ill and dangerous homeless aren't from here? Can we stop being a magnet for this sort?

How do you know he is from Charlottesville? There is a pattern of DC residents committing violent crimes in college towns around the country, as we saw at the University of Alabama


It sounds like he’s actually lived in DC for a while:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/02/02/potomac-avenue-metro-shooting-suspect/


Yup. Looks like the instigating factor here wasn’t guns at all but drug abuse. For all the liberals who promote decriminalization of drugs, this is the predictable result. Drug induced psychosis leading to eruptions of violence.


People aren't ready to look at the reality of "harmless" drugs.


I've never once heard of anyone going on a psychotic shooting rampage after using legal, inspected, controlled and regulated cannabis. But don't let the facts get in your way.


That you have not heard of it does not mean it has not happened and could not. Marijuana is, for a significant number of people, not a benign amusement. It has been linked to psychosis.


When mixed with other substances, sure. By itself most people just become more mellow and relaxed. The point of regulation would be that it is controlled to remain unadulterated and of known properties.

Shut. The F. Up.

“Recent research suggests that smoking high-potency marijuana every day could increase the chances of developing psychosis by nearly five times compared to people who have never used marijuana.”
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/there-link-between-marijuana-use-psychiatric-disorders
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Anonymous wrote:This story was buried at the bottom of the home page most of the day. And they won't identify the shooter. What is up with that?


Agree. Why hasn’t shooter been identified? I’m guessing either homeless or a catch-and-release.


Isaiah Trotman, 31, of Washington, DC, was identified by investigators as the gunman, and was arrested on charges of first degree murder while armed, kidnapping while armed and assault with a dangerous weapon, police said


https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/us/dc-metro-employee-killed-stop-gunman-shooting/index.html



I don't see a record on DC Sup Ct but those do not seem like the actions of a 1st time offender. Did he recently arrive in DC from elsewhere like the guy who bashed a baby in the face with a brick on Capitol Hill?


There’s a Washington Post article about him. Apparently, he was pretty amazing. Sounds like some sort of mental health crisis. He was a competitive swimmer in HS. Got a scholarship to Auburn U and graduated with a degree in finance. Served in the Air National Guard. Moved to DC. Bought a half million dollar house. Had two cars and an IT job. Paid his taxes. Something happened after Christmas. Inside of his house went from well kept to graffitied. No car. No phone. Disheveled. Then this.

He was arrested twice, one dropped and one resulting in a plea of guilty of possession with intent to sell methamphetamine. Some domestic issues with a girlfriend, which seem to have gone both ways - him to her and her to him.

Unlike much of the speculation, seems like he was a really successful guy before serious mental illness set in.


This is not indicative of SMI, the timing is too short. It's much more clear that it was a drug issue.

Absolutely. At best you could say that he was dual diagnosis. However and as is usually the case, drug abuse can break an other loose fragile mind. Without the drugs he would not have gone on this violent rampage.
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Anonymous wrote:The Charles Allen clip. I hear it not as concern for the shooter, but the the shorter was agitated and I’m a crisis. That’s just facts but sympathy. We do need to address the root cause - person I’m a mental health crises with acres to guns.

Never heard of Charles Allen before today but he’s not a person to blame here. Blame lax gun laws (a uniquely American issue) and lack of mental health services.


He actually shares the blame:

Criminal code revision easier on car jacking and less time for violent offenders

Leading proponent of Youth Rehabiliation act that hides violent records

Pushing million to “violence interruptors” where all studies show no real efficacy

Second chance act proponent

Blamed the city for not cleaning leaves sooner when kids were lighting them on fire.

Basically he is a weak on crime politician pushing woke criminal justice reform that actually sucks.
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The meth currently being sold and for which the shooter was arrested in PA, causes severe mental illness.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new-meth/620174/

‘I DON’T KNOW THAT I WOULD EVEN CALL IT METH ANYMORE’ Different chemically than it was a decade ago, the drug is creating a wave of severe mental illness and worsening America’s homelessness problem.
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Anonymous wrote:This story was buried at the bottom of the home page most of the day. And they won't identify the shooter. What is up with that?


Agree. Why hasn’t shooter been identified? I’m guessing either homeless or a catch-and-release.


Isaiah Trotman, 31, of Washington, DC, was identified by investigators as the gunman, and was arrested on charges of first degree murder while armed, kidnapping while armed and assault with a dangerous weapon, police said


https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/us/dc-metro-employee-killed-stop-gunman-shooting/index.html



I don't see a record on DC Sup Ct but those do not seem like the actions of a 1st time offender. Did he recently arrive in DC from elsewhere like the guy who bashed a baby in the face with a brick on Capitol Hill?


There’s a Washington Post article about him. Apparently, he was pretty amazing. Sounds like some sort of mental health crisis. He was a competitive swimmer in HS. Got a scholarship to Auburn U and graduated with a degree in finance. Served in the Air National Guard. Moved to DC. Bought a half million dollar house. Had two cars and an IT job. Paid his taxes. Something happened after Christmas. Inside of his house went from well kept to graffitied. No car. No phone. Disheveled. Then this.

He was arrested twice, one dropped and one resulting in a plea of guilty of possession with intent to sell methamphetamine. Some domestic issues with a girlfriend, which seem to have gone both ways - him to her and her to him.

Unlike much of the speculation, seems like he was a really successful guy before serious mental illness set in.


Trotman has a few arrests for DV and for violent/erratic behavior and use/possession of meth and marijuana. More info on the PA arrest for which he was to be sentenced in April at link. The way meth is currently cooked is linked to psychosis and severe mental illness. It is also a driver of public living in open air drug encampments. See Atlantic article linked in this thread.

https://twitter.com/JWPascale/status/1621171340475768832
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What is SMI?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This story was buried at the bottom of the home page most of the day. And they won't identify the shooter. What is up with that?


Agree. Why hasn’t shooter been identified? I’m guessing either homeless or a catch-and-release.


Isaiah Trotman, 31, of Washington, DC, was identified by investigators as the gunman, and was arrested on charges of first degree murder while armed, kidnapping while armed and assault with a dangerous weapon, police said


https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/us/dc-metro-employee-killed-stop-gunman-shooting/index.html



I don't see a record on DC Sup Ct but those do not seem like the actions of a 1st time offender. Did he recently arrive in DC from elsewhere like the guy who bashed a baby in the face with a brick on Capitol Hill?


There’s a Washington Post article about him. Apparently, he was pretty amazing. Sounds like some sort of mental health crisis. He was a competitive swimmer in HS. Got a scholarship to Auburn U and graduated with a degree in finance. Served in the Air National Guard. Moved to DC. Bought a half million dollar house. Had two cars and an IT job. Paid his taxes. Something happened after Christmas. Inside of his house went from well kept to graffitied. No car. No phone. Disheveled. Then this.

He was arrested twice, one dropped and one resulting in a plea of guilty of possession with intent to sell methamphetamine. Some domestic issues with a girlfriend, which seem to have gone both ways - him to her and her to him.

Unlike much of the speculation, seems like he was a really successful guy before serious mental illness set in.


Trotman has a few arrests for DV and for violent/erratic behavior and use/possession of meth and marijuana. More info on the PA arrest for which he was to be sentenced in April at link. The way meth is currently cooked is linked to psychosis and severe mental illness. It is also a driver of public living in open air drug encampments. See Atlantic article linked in this thread.

https://twitter.com/JWPascale/status/1621171340475768832


Shudder.

Although I also have a friend with pretty severe, non-drug related mental illness and it’s pretty scary, although the threat has always been more to herself than others (she’s considered suicide). And yeah, she’s very open to treatment and getting it but after a good stretch relief has been elusive.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Happens every time:

Court records show Isaiah Trotman was charged with assault and battery in November 2021, only to have those charges dismissed six months later by Albemarle County, Va., prosecutor Jim Hingeley.

We're doing this to ourselves electing people who deliberately keep madmen on the streets to kill. At least the people of Albemarle County were lucky to have him go kill somewhere else.


Isn't it amazing how many of the mentally-ill and dangerous homeless aren't from here? Can we stop being a magnet for this sort?

How do you know he is from Charlottesville? There is a pattern of DC residents committing violent crimes in college towns around the country, as we saw at the University of Alabama


It sounds like he’s actually lived in DC for a while:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/02/02/potomac-avenue-metro-shooting-suspect/


Yup. Looks like the instigating factor here wasn’t guns at all but drug abuse. For all the liberals who promote decriminalization of drugs, this is the predictable result. Drug induced psychosis leading to eruptions of violence.


People aren't ready to look at the reality of "harmless" drugs.


I've never once heard of anyone going on a psychotic shooting rampage after using legal, inspected, controlled and regulated cannabis. But don't let the facts get in your way.


That you have not heard of it does not mean it has not happened and could not. Marijuana is, for a significant number of people, not a benign amusement. It has been linked to psychosis.


When mixed with other substances, sure. By itself most people just become more mellow and relaxed. The point of regulation would be that it is controlled to remain unadulterated and of known properties.


You don’t need to mix it with anything. There are marijuana addicts just like there are addicts for other psychoactive substances. Some of them are using it to treat underlying mental illness, which typically gets worse. Others are prone to mental illness and over time marijuana leads them further and further in that direction. The “once upon a time” Cheech & Chong stereotype of a mellowed out stoner whose worst problem is the munchies was never grounded in fact and certainly is not today when marijuana is infinitely more powerful than the weak “grass” that gave rise to the idea that marijuana was pretty much harmless.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Happens every time:

Court records show Isaiah Trotman was charged with assault and battery in November 2021, only to have those charges dismissed six months later by Albemarle County, Va., prosecutor Jim Hingeley.

We're doing this to ourselves electing people who deliberately keep madmen on the streets to kill. At least the people of Albemarle County were lucky to have him go kill somewhere else.


Isn't it amazing how many of the mentally-ill and dangerous homeless aren't from here? Can we stop being a magnet for this sort?

How do you know he is from Charlottesville? There is a pattern of DC residents committing violent crimes in college towns around the country, as we saw at the University of Alabama


It sounds like he’s actually lived in DC for a while:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/02/02/potomac-avenue-metro-shooting-suspect/


Yup. Looks like the instigating factor here wasn’t guns at all but drug abuse. For all the liberals who promote decriminalization of drugs, this is the predictable result. Drug induced psychosis leading to eruptions of violence.


People aren't ready to look at the reality of "harmless" drugs.


I've never once heard of anyone going on a psychotic shooting rampage after using legal, inspected, controlled and regulated cannabis. But don't let the facts get in your way.


That you have not heard of it does not mean it has not happened and could not. Marijuana is, for a significant number of people, not a benign amusement. It has been linked to psychosis.


When mixed with other substances, sure. By itself most people just become more mellow and relaxed. The point of regulation would be that it is controlled to remain unadulterated and of known properties.

Shut. The F. Up.

“Recent research suggests that smoking high-potency marijuana every day could increase the chances of developing psychosis by nearly five times compared to people who have never used marijuana.”
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/there-link-between-marijuana-use-psychiatric-disorders


Precisely this. Thanks for posting.
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Anonymous wrote:

Yup. Looks like the instigating factor here wasn’t guns at all but drug abuse. For all the liberals who promote decriminalization of drugs, this is the predictable result. Drug induced psychosis leading to eruptions of violence.


People aren't ready to look at the reality of "harmless" drugs.


Yep. I know this is veering off topic but I listened to a high school administrator this week express great frustration at the severe adverse effect decriminalization of marijuana has had on high schoolers and how there are virtually no treatment programs to help HS kids who aren't full blown drug addicts but are really struggling with excessive marijuana use.


I voted against legalization. Very predictable outcome.
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Anonymous wrote:The Charles Allen clip. I hear it not as concern for the shooter, but the the shorter was agitated and I’m a crisis. That’s just facts but sympathy. We do need to address the root cause - person I’m a mental health crises with acres to guns.

Never heard of Charles Allen before today but he’s not a person to blame here. Blame lax gun laws (a uniquely American issue) and lack of mental health services.


He actually shares the blame:

Criminal code revision easier on car jacking and less time for violent offenders

Leading proponent of Youth Rehabiliation act that hides violent records

Pushing million to “violence interruptors” where all studies show no real efficacy

Second chance act proponent

Blamed the city for not cleaning leaves sooner when kids were lighting them on fire.

Basically he is a weak on crime politician pushing woke criminal justice reform that actually sucks.


This. Charles Allen is DC's biggest advocate for violent criminals, drug dealers and homeless vagrants. How dare regular people ask for basic public safety!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yup. Looks like the instigating factor here wasn’t guns at all but drug abuse. For all the liberals who promote decriminalization of drugs, this is the predictable result. Drug induced psychosis leading to eruptions of violence.


People aren't ready to look at the reality of "harmless" drugs.


Yep. I know this is veering off topic but I listened to a high school administrator this week express great frustration at the severe adverse effect decriminalization of marijuana has had on high schoolers and how there are virtually no treatment programs to help HS kids who aren't full blown drug addicts but are really struggling with excessive marijuana use.


I voted against legalization. Very predictable outcome.


Well, DC hasn't enforced any of the codes that came with it (like no public consumption). I guess that was predictable too though, sigh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Charles Allen clip. I hear it not as concern for the shooter, but the the shorter was agitated and I’m a crisis. That’s just facts but sympathy. We do need to address the root cause - person I’m a mental health crises with acres to guns.

Never heard of Charles Allen before today but he’s not a person to blame here. Blame lax gun laws (a uniquely American issue) and lack of mental health services.


He actually shares the blame:

Criminal code revision easier on car jacking and less time for violent offenders

Leading proponent of Youth Rehabiliation act that hides violent records

Pushing million to “violence interruptors” where all studies show no real efficacy

Second chance act proponent

Blamed the city for not cleaning leaves sooner when kids were lighting them on fire.

Basically he is a weak on crime politician pushing woke criminal justice reform that actually sucks.


This. Charles Allen is DC's biggest advocate for violent criminals, drug dealers and homeless vagrants. How dare regular people ask for basic public safety!


You kind of want to charge him and his Council cronies with crimes against humanity for the net effect of his policy, yet he was democratically elected. So were other people who have historically had huge deleterious effects on society though. Something is broken in DC 'democracy' is all I can figure. We the voters, the candidates, the developers lobby, the Mayor, the process. We are ending up with very, very bad public policy.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Charles Allen clip. I hear it not as concern for the shooter, but the the shorter was agitated and I’m a crisis. That’s just facts but sympathy. We do need to address the root cause - person I’m a mental health crises with acres to guns.

Never heard of Charles Allen before today but he’s not a person to blame here. Blame lax gun laws (a uniquely American issue) and lack of mental health services.


He actually shares the blame:

Criminal code revision easier on car jacking and less time for violent offenders

Leading proponent of Youth Rehabiliation act that hides violent records

Pushing million to “violence interruptors” where all studies show no real efficacy

Second chance act proponent

Blamed the city for not cleaning leaves sooner when kids were lighting them on fire.

Basically he is a weak on crime politician pushing woke criminal justice reform that actually sucks.


This. Charles Allen is DC's biggest advocate for violent criminals, drug dealers and homeless vagrants. How dare regular people ask for basic public safety!


Taking away stoves:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/02/04/dc-gas-stoves-charles-allen/

Do people under $80k own homes in DC? How do chefs feel about this? Electric stoves are not popular in restaurant kitchens at all. This seems like a stupid issue to push.

Also, it’s frustrating that Charles can find time from being lenient on crime, and lowering penalties for violent car jacking, and other crimes, but find time to push this very contentious issue. No one has time or the inclination to fork out tons of money to retrofit their house for this crap. Get out of here. Seriously, focus on criminals not being prosecuted under your stupid youth rehab act, second chance act, and other idiocy. Also, maybe focus on the fact that violence interruptors are a waste of millions and don’t interrupt anything according to all studies. I’m sick of progressive policy and the associated tax payer funded expenses in this city.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Happens every time:

Court records show Isaiah Trotman was charged with assault and battery in November 2021, only to have those charges dismissed six months later by Albemarle County, Va., prosecutor Jim Hingeley.

We're doing this to ourselves electing people who deliberately keep madmen on the streets to kill. At least the people of Albemarle County were lucky to have him go kill somewhere else.


Isn't it amazing how many of the mentally-ill and dangerous homeless aren't from here? Can we stop being a magnet for this sort?

How do you know he is from Charlottesville? There is a pattern of DC residents committing violent crimes in college towns around the country, as we saw at the University of Alabama


It sounds like he’s actually lived in DC for a while:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/02/02/potomac-avenue-metro-shooting-suspect/


Yup. Looks like the instigating factor here wasn’t guns at all but drug abuse. For all the liberals who promote decriminalization of drugs, this is the predictable result. Drug induced psychosis leading to eruptions of violence.


People aren't ready to look at the reality of "harmless" drugs.


I've never once heard of anyone going on a psychotic shooting rampage after using legal, inspected, controlled and regulated cannabis. But don't let the facts get in your way.


That you have not heard of it does not mean it has not happened and could not. Marijuana is, for a significant number of people, not a benign amusement. It has been linked to psychosis.


When mixed with other substances, sure. By itself most people just become more mellow and relaxed. The point of regulation would be that it is controlled to remain unadulterated and of known properties.

Shut. The F. Up.

“Recent research suggests that smoking high-potency marijuana every day could increase the chances of developing psychosis by nearly five times compared to people who have never used marijuana.”
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/there-link-between-marijuana-use-psychiatric-disorders


"Shut. The F. Up." ???
You sound kinda psychotic, yourself. I guess we should then consider you an authority on psychoses.
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