Why do we judge men who don’t work more harshly than women?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it outdated to look down on lazy people? Men or women. Being a stay at home parent is a lot of work. Once kids go to school, it's really not.

Because working hard is not good.

It’s actually stupid to “work hard” as a SAHP too. Get help, make friends and do play dates, build a community around you… many hands make for light work.

Working “hard” is not a quality to revere.

Way to sidestep the question.

[Anonymous]

If I I have kids who are in school and I work, but I work evenings and weekends, and I don’t work during most of the hours they are in school, am I lazy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because women blame men for everything wrong in the world.

Here's a little snippet of info from the Wikipedia article on Sex Differences in Crime, it might help you understand why what you said might actually be factual and we haven't even gotten into causes of war:

2011 arrest data from the FBI:

Males constituted 98.9% of those arrested for forcible rape
Males constituted 87.9% of those arrested for robbery
Males constituted 85.0% of those arrested for burglary
Males constituted 83.0% of those arrested for arson
Males constituted 81.7% of those arrested for vandalism
Males constituted 81.5% of those arrested for motor-vehicle theft
Males constituted 79.7% of those arrested for offenses against family and children
Males constituted 77.8% of those arrested for aggravated assault
Males constituted 58.7% of those arrested for fraud
Males constituted 57.3% of those arrested for larceny-theft
Males constituted 51.3% of those arrested for embezzlement

Hmmm. Women aren't excelling at raping and robbing but catching up in embezzlement, theft and fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I I have kids who are in school and I work, but I work evenings and weekends, and I don’t work during most of the hours they are in school, am I lazy?

I don't think so, you are likely working harder with them. You aren't as ambitious but there is nothing wrong with that. Whatever works for you, there is more to life than ambition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it outdated to look down on lazy people? Men or women. Being a stay at home parent is a lot of work. Once kids go to school, it's really not.

Because working hard is not good.

It’s actually stupid to “work hard” as a SAHP too. Get help, make friends and do play dates, build a community around you… many hands make for light work.

Working “hard” is not a quality to revere.

Way to sidestep the question.

Because if they can afford it who cares. I only look down on able bodied people who steal or live off the dole.

The most lazy people are innovative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I I have kids who are in school and I work, but I work evenings and weekends, and I don’t work during most of the hours they are in school, am I lazy?

Taking time to recharge is not lazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men are selected by biology to have physical strength to go out, earn and protect themselves. Until brainiac jobs and safety measures came along, women's biology limited their chances to be able to stay safe and do labor.

I don't understand why most people don't understand this basic level of work and the human body. 90% of people in the US were farmers before the civil war. The women did help with farming but there was no way they could make as much money and food at it as a man. But they were better at raising workers for the farm.

This^.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it outdated to look down on lazy people? Men or women. Being a stay at home parent is a lot of work. Once kids go to school, it's really not.

Because working hard is not good.

It’s actually stupid to “work hard” as a SAHP too. Get help, make friends and do play dates, build a community around you… many hands make for light work.

Working “hard” is not a quality to revere.

Way to sidestep the question.

Because if they can afford it who cares. I only look down on able bodied people who steal or live off the dole.

The most lazy people are innovative.

Thinking and planning is not being lazy. Someone who is innovative eventually has something to show for it. You can't be innovative about nothing. A lazy person has nothing to show for their laziness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men are selected by biology to have physical strength to go out, earn and protect themselves. Until brainiac jobs and safety measures came along, women's biology limited their chances to be able to stay safe and do labor.

I don't understand why most people don't understand this basic level of work and the human body. 90% of people in the US were farmers before the civil war. The women did help with farming but there was no way they could make as much money and food at it as a man. But they were better at raising workers for the farm.

This^.

Most people live in urban areas now.

[Anonymous]

If raising kids and managing homes aren't jobs, why people pay trillions to daycare, nannies, babysitters, afterschool care, housekeepers, maids, cooks, personal assistants and what not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t really see how it’s a lot less work once the kids are in school. Yes. It’s less work during the day while they are in school, but mornings and evenings are often busier and kids get up earlier and stay up later. Toddlers sleep about 90 hours/week. Elementary schoolers sleep about 60 hours/week and go to school 30 hours/week. It looks to me like about the same amount of time doing childcare.

It’s not like these are couples where the dad is home by 5pm every day and has every weekend off. For most SAHMs, the time that the kids are in school is their only time to exercise, read, relax, and socialize. People make fun of SAHMs for going out to lunch or playing tennis during the school day, but that’s like making fun of single people for going to happy hours. This is the time they have to socialize.

And no, neither childfree people nor SAHPs are working as hard as a single mom of three who has no time to socialize.

Correct, it's not less work. It gets more complicated because kids have more school-based activities that you have to help with, or after-school things and you're always driving around in the afternoons. I work now with elementary school kids, but we don't outsource much so the house is often a mess, and we have to do errands on the weekends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it outdated to look down on lazy people? Men or women. Being a stay at home parent is a lot of work. Once kids go to school, it's really not.

Because working hard is not good.

It’s actually stupid to “work hard” as a SAHP too. Get help, make friends and do play dates, build a community around you… many hands make for light work.

Working “hard” is not a quality to revere.

Way to sidestep the question.

Because if they can afford it who cares. I only look down on able bodied people who steal or live off the dole.

The most lazy people are innovative.

Thinking and planning is not being lazy. Someone who is innovative eventually has something to show for it. You can't be innovative about nothing. A lazy person has nothing to show for their laziness.

That’s not true most innovators have 1 innovation and it’s usually yo make life easier, lazier.

Most artist have few works or times of innovation.

Most are lazy.

[Anonymous]

The argument that someone needs to stay home and has too much to do to work is probably the thing that annoys me most of all. It’s simply not true in most cases. I’ve been a sahm for a while due to unemployment and mostly worked and you can totally do both. Yes we need some extra childcare here and there and I tend to do admin and laundry in the evening while watching tv but no biggie. Unless you would yourself earn less than you pay your cleaner or for aftercare which is obv a different story

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because men are harder workers

That is such a laugh!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it outdated to look down on lazy people? Men or women. Being a stay at home parent is a lot of work. Once kids go to school, it's really not.

Because working hard is not good.

It’s actually stupid to “work hard” as a SAHP too. Get help, make friends and do play dates, build a community around you… many hands make for light work.

Working “hard” is not a quality to revere.

Way to sidestep the question.

Because if they can afford it who cares. I only look down on able bodied people who steal or live off the dole.

The most lazy people are innovative.

Thinking and planning is not being lazy. Someone who is innovative eventually has something to show for it. You can't be innovative about nothing. A lazy person has nothing to show for their laziness.

That’s not true most innovators have 1 innovation and it’s usually yo make life easier, lazier.

Most artist have few works or times of innovation.

Most are lazy.

Not sure where you are getting your info about "most innovators" and "most artists." I know of one lazy "musician" who has claimed his entire adult life that music is his calling while being supported by others -- meanwhile he doesn't write or play music, or even listen to it. He's not even proficient on any one instrument. That is just manipulative. And lazy. I've known real musicians who played in the basement for 10 hours a day. Fine, be supported by someone else if you're that passionate. They eventually got paying gigs -- because they WANTED to play music. Not just sit around and use it as an excuse to be lazy. Most people grow out of that, or get kicked out into the work-a-day world against their will.

Real artists produce work. Real musicians play music, or produce music. Etc. Daydreaming and air guitar don't justify being supported by someone else.