How long will the shutdown last?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:A couple big agencies need to go on strike. Yes, I know they are forbidden but FFS, at this point, who wants to keep working for free? Plus I’d love to see them try to hire new air traffic controller’s or border security.

Reagan did.

Holy crap. They were ballsy back then.

Robert Poli, president of the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization (PATCO), sought an across-the-board annual wage increase of $10,000 for the controllers, whose pay ranged from $20,462 to $49,229 a year. He also sought a reduction of their five-day, 40-hour workweek to a four-day, 32-hour workweek. The FAA made a $40 million counteroffer, far short of the $770 million package that the union sought.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/05/reagan-fires-11-000-striking-air-traffic-controllers-aug-5-1981-241252

My father was a controller during this time. He choose to stay on the job during the strike. It was a brutal time for him, his family (4 young kids) and his wife. There was no way he could afford to go on strike and yet he hated not being on strike with his fellow colleagues, as if he abandoned his team. But it was feed his family or go on strike. Reagon was an a-hole. The controllers were using equipment installed just after WW2 - technology was so fricken old that it added to the already stressful conditions on the job. I see a lot of parallels with the situation now. Not only for controllers but for TSA workers too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A couple big agencies need to go on strike. Yes, I know they are forbidden but FFS, at this point, who wants to keep working for free? Plus I’d love to see them try to hire new air traffic controller’s or border security.

Reagan did.

Holy crap. They were ballsy back then.

Robert Poli, president of the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization (PATCO), sought an across-the-board annual wage increase of $10,000 for the controllers, whose pay ranged from $20,462 to $49,229 a year. He also sought a reduction of their five-day, 40-hour workweek to a four-day, 32-hour workweek. The FAA made a $40 million counteroffer, far short of the $770 million package that the union sought.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/05/reagan-fires-11-000-striking-air-traffic-controllers-aug-5-1981-241252

My father was a controller during this time. He choose to stay on the job during the strike. It was a brutal time for him, his family (4 young kids) and his wife. There was no way he could afford to go on strike and yet he hated not being on strike with his fellow colleagues, as if he abandoned his team. But it was feed his family or go on strike. Reagon was an a-hole. The controllers were using equipment installed just after WW2 - technology was so fricken old that it added to the already stressful conditions on the job. I see a lot of parallels with the situation now. Not only for controllers but for TSA workers too.

My point was that the a/c lost by going on strike. I think would fail now as well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A couple big agencies need to go on strike. Yes, I know they are forbidden but FFS, at this point, who wants to keep working for free? Plus I’d love to see them try to hire new air traffic controller’s or border security.

Reagan did.

Holy crap. They were ballsy back then.

Robert Poli, president of the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization (PATCO), sought an across-the-board annual wage increase of $10,000 for the controllers, whose pay ranged from $20,462 to $49,229 a year. He also sought a reduction of their five-day, 40-hour workweek to a four-day, 32-hour workweek. The FAA made a $40 million counteroffer, far short of the $770 million package that the union sought.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/05/reagan-fires-11-000-striking-air-traffic-controllers-aug-5-1981-241252

My father was a controller during this time. He choose to stay on the job during the strike. It was a brutal time for him, his family (4 young kids) and his wife. There was no way he could afford to go on strike and yet he hated not being on strike with his fellow colleagues, as if he abandoned his team. But it was feed his family or go on strike. Reagon was an a-hole. The controllers were using equipment installed just after WW2 - technology was so fricken old that it added to the already stressful conditions on the job. I see a lot of parallels with the situation now. Not only for controllers but for TSA workers too.

My point was that the a/c lost by going on strike. I think would fail now as well

It would stop the shutdown and they could then litigate. Trump has yet to sign the bill securing their backpay.

[Anonymous]

S24 for backpay has been presented to the President. Am I reading it right that it actually approves backpay for all future shutdowns?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:S24 for backpay has been presented to the President. Am I reading it right that it actually approves backpay for all future shutdowns?

Insurance against all future Orange Toddler tantrums.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:S24 for backpay has been presented to the President. Am I reading it right that it actually approves backpay for all future shutdowns?

Insurance against all future Orange Toddler tantrums.

They approve backpay every time anyway so it makes sense. Still not sure that the bill authorizes it going forward though.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know when the backpay bill is getting signed? I know it's been "assured", but I would still be relieved to know it's confirmed.

[Anonymous]

So, shutdown will end last Wednesday or Thursday? Tell me more?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know when the backpay bill is getting signed? I know it's been "assured", but I would still be relieved to know it's confirmed.

He just got it yesterday so hopefully today. I don’t think anyone knows for sure though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the networks won’t carry his address tomorrow. Lol!

Oh, but they did. So another prediction that failed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:THE SHUTDOWN ENDS ON FRIDAY

Which Friday?

Whatever day ends in a "y".

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:S24 for backpay has been presented to the President. Am I reading it right that it actually approves backpay for all future shutdowns?

Yes it does.

[Anonymous]

The President has now said that he will not back down one inch on his position. Looks like all hopes for a resolution this week are gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, shutdown will end last Wednesday or Thursday? Tell me more?

Why does the unnecessary suffering of hundreds of thousands of american citizens with jobs give you joy? Are you American?