Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not blaming the cops, truly. But the one on camera giving HER a lecture on domestic violence has got to be feeling pretty $hitty right now.

It sure sounds like you are.

You think he slept well last night? I don’t.

DP and I hope he slept just fine. He’s probably sad at the outcome, but it’s not his fault.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the police body cam footage & think the police ultimately made many mistakes.

While they were very friendly and attempted to stay fair to both sides - the fact that they put up Brian in a hotel room while allowing Gabby to leave alone, uncomfortably driving the van to an unknown destination is outrageous.

I get that the officer stressed in the video that they, the authorities could not treat either party differently due to gender but c’mon…..gender definitely matters when sending a Female off alone in a van to fend for herself while driving a Male to a hotel and assuring he arrives safe and will be taken care of.

A girl has a much better chance at possibly attracting predators vs. a guy.
So yes gender matters in this case.

She deserved a hotel room while Brian should have had the option to just take the van.
Bad judgement of the officers IMO.

Also labeling her the “Aggressor” and him the “Victim” was preposterous at best.
Even then w/out the knowledge we have now.

Anyone speaking to them could see that she was continuously crying while he was chatting cheerfully w/the cops.
It was apparent that she was scared while to him, none of what was happening was even a big deal.

Especially since it was already after five and would soon be nightfall.
How was it acceptable to make her drive a vehicle that she was uncomfortable driving, in the middle of practically nowhere, in her emotional state with little money and no known people in the area??
How safe is a situation like that for a 22 yr old woman?

While a man gets to “watch T.V.”, get a hot shower and gets a decent hotel room to stay in overnight? And even gets a lift there as well?!

Additionally he had established himself as a liar when he said he had no cell phone and a short while later he pulled a phone from his back pocket. Also told the police that her phone was inside the van so that was obviously his phone.

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Anonymous wrote:Missing Hydrogeologist

* Please help find Daniel Robinson - Last seen June 23 leaving a remote jobsite in Buckeye, AZ in a blue 2017 Jeep Renegade (plate#: NLA2CMA)
* Black male, 24 years old, black hair and brown eyes
* Daniel is 5'8" and 165 lbs
* He was born without part of his right arm

Thank you for keeping an eye out.

Rest peacefully, Gabby.

Thank you for posting this. Poor Daiel.

This sounds like a tragic story, but was he hiking alone in a national wilderness?

It differed from OP because it seemed likely there was a crime and a murderer may go free (no body, no murder). That injustice is what has driven the attention to some degree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the police body cam footage & think the police ultimately made many mistakes.

While they were very friendly and attempted to stay fair to both sides - the fact that they put up Brian in a hotel room while allowing Gabby to leave alone, uncomfortably driving the van to an unknown destination is outrageous.

I get that the officer stressed in the video that they, the authorities could not treat either party differently due to gender but c’mon…..gender definitely matters when sending a Female off alone in a van to fend for herself while driving a Male to a hotel and assuring he arrives safe and will be taken care of.

A girl has a much better chance at possibly attracting predators vs. a guy.
So yes gender matters in this case.

She deserved a hotel room while Brian should have had the option to just take the van.
Bad judgement of the officers IMO.

Also labeling her the “Aggressor” and him the “Victim” was preposterous at best.
Even then w/out the knowledge we have now.

Anyone speaking to them could see that she was continuously crying while he was chatting cheerfully w/the cops.
It was apparent that she was scared while to him, none of what was happening was even a big deal.

I see what you’re saying and wondered about this too, but I assumed it was because she’s the legal owner of the van.

Exactly. They were supposed to give him her van? That would make no sense.
Hindsight is always 20/20.

Even though she was the legal owner of the van, I am pretty sure the officers would have been able to get Gabby’s formal consent for him to take possession of the van.

They should have done this.
She verbally stated to the officers that she wasn’t comfortable driving the van and that Brian always did the driving.
Yet after hearing this, the cops still made her drive it off to God only knows where.
They knew she was emotionally very upset since she had been crying over the last hour.
In spite of her not wanting to drive the van, along with being so upset they gave her no option but to go off on her own, in a town with less than like 5,500 people where she did not know a soul to fend for herself while Brian got a free, cushy hotel with a private hot shower, a real bed to sleep in along with a locked/secured door.

The police owe Gabby’s family an apology for sure.
Not saying they caused her to die….just saying they were not looking out for her best interests at all on the evening of 8/12.

No they do not. You are spewing nonsense based on bias due to the outcome. At the time they were pulled over, Brian was the one with marks on his face due to Gabby striking him. It was also her van AND she was speaking with her parents. If she was so concerned about being alone or driving the van, she could have followed the cops to town and her parents could have paid for a hotel.

NP and I totally agree.not sure why some are twisting themselves into pretzels to try and blame the police. These were grown adults. I think LE went above and beyond. Gabby could have called her parents for advice if she wasn’t comfortable driving the van. They could have helped her find her own hotel and transportation.

We have no idea if her parents would have helped. We know now that she was in real danger, but her parents wouldn't have known that. If she was prone to anxiety or drama, they may have let her deal with some hard knocks (not murder, but they didn't know that) to let her grow up. We have no idea if they were supportive of this road trip or her relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of people are gonna be embarrassed when this young woman , who is an adult , shows up

PP’s who pointed out that if this were some AA girl it wouldn’t be a media frenzy have a dead on point

Lastly, to the PP who keeps insisting that they can just tell from Brian’s body language and manner of speaking h that “ he is an abuser “ - did you even watch the whole tape ? Because I saw a nervous, kinda weird guy but I also saw him - when the cop said Gabby was going to have to spend the night in jail as she was the assailant and , as a result, could not be put in the hotel shelter - I saw him ask if he could just be the one to use the jail cell instead of her and let her have the van

Putting her first, putting her welfare first even after she caused the whole scene and the cops having to pull them over

THAT is a young man doing the right thing. My guess is eventually he had had enough and listened to his parents and came home

Not a crime

I certainly hope you find the nerve to return to this thread after she “shows up”, as it were.

Hey you POS - what do you have to say now???

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Anonymous wrote:FBI agents and police moved into the Laundrie house in force around 9.40 am this morning.

Five vehicles turned up with officers pouring out after the house was suddenly taped off with yellow police line tape. Shouts of ‘search warrant’ could be heard.

Laundries parents were taken swiftly out of the home and into a black propel carrier. FBI agents lined up outside the door before heading in at speed.

Yes--it's about time. I can't believe they weren't surveilling him and the family this entire time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I watched the police body cam footage & think the police ultimately made many mistakes.

While they were very friendly and attempted to stay fair to both sides - the fact that they put up Brian in a hotel room while allowing Gabby to leave alone, uncomfortably driving the van to an unknown destination is outrageous.

I get that the officer stressed in the video that they, the authorities could not treat either party differently due to gender but c’mon…..gender definitely matters when sending a Female off alone in a van to fend for herself while driving a Male to a hotel and assuring he arrives safe and will be taken care of.

A girl has a much better chance at possibly attracting predators vs. a guy.
So yes gender matters in this case.

She deserved a hotel room while Brian should have had the option to just take the van.
Bad judgement of the officers IMO.

Also labeling her the “Aggressor” and him the “Victim” was preposterous at best.
Even then w/out the knowledge we have now.

Anyone speaking to them could see that she was continuously crying while he was chatting cheerfully w/the cops.
It was apparent that she was scared while to him, none of what was happening was even a big deal.

We have been over this SO. MANY. TIMES. She admitted to slapping/scratching him, so technically she was the abuser in the situation. They're not legally allowed to put the abuser up in a hotel room.

Legally allowed? Show me the law. It may be their policy or how they do things, but I seriously doubt there is a law.

Even if it was just their policy, THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. PLEASE stop blaming these guys, I'm sure they feel guilty, but they did what they were supposed to do.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda. She's still dead. The problem was these backwood simpletons couldn't size up the situation appropriately. Maybe they were nice enough, but nice is as nice does. She's dead. They misread the situation. Yeah, she scratched him. He milked those scratches for all they were worth. We don't know why she scratched him, but give me a break. That piece of garbage man MURDERED her. They were worried about a few scratches when they were coddling a murderer in the making? We don't even know if he also murdered the lesbian couple, but good chance he did - all things considered. Again, they were coddling a murderer.

These people shouldn't be cops. They bring to mind the cops who returned one of Jeffrey Dalhmer's victims to Dalhmer, who subsequently murdered and ate the poor guy.

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Anonymous wrote:I knew when the search dogs left it was her.

Can they make Brian as a suspect now? Please??? And charge the parents with obstruction/accessory after the fact? Lying scumbags.

[Anonymous]

Looks like they're hauling in his parents now. About freaking time.

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Anonymous wrote:Posting a different viewpoint and wondering if any of the PP’s on this thread have viewed the police interview with the couple when Gabby was reported to the police for assaulting Brian in Moab ??

Because, maybe if more people watched that tape, they’d take a more neutral approach. Having watched the full one hour police bodycam interview of both Gabby & Brian I have a few questions :

1) Gabby was nearly arrested for assault of Brian - there was a witness who called the police and that is why the police pulled the couple over) in July - towards the end of that tape, Gabby calls her parents - so - where are the parents in this for the next 6 weeks ??? Think about it everyone: you , as the parent of a 22 year old - have just been called and notified that your daughter has been pulled over by the police and almost charged with battery - and given a court date - had the cop not changed his mind - you know she is unemployed, is living in a van ( homeless) and has no purpose other than trying to gain fame and influence through writing a “ blog” about how she and her bf are ,” having a great adventure exploring the west “ - except it’s obvious that is all FAKE - they are 2 unstable young people, without jobs and violence has broken out in their relationship in which they are holed up together in basically - living out of a vehicle

You know this as her parents and what do you do ? Nothing - it seems - No, come home NOW Gabby - no ??? Get to the nearest airport and we will buy you a plane ticket home - right now Gabby

Instead, he Dad is paying for meals to be delivered to her while she lives in the van - OK

What is Brian’s obligation to her vs to himself ? He is not her husband or her father and he is same age as her . He is free to leave her and just go home . That is not a crime . He is not supervising her as an adult over a minor ? She had attacked him previously and - had the Utah cops charged her as they could have, Gabby would have had to show up in court in Utah in August .

Maybe she assaulted him again ? Maybe she is unstable and ran away from him . Maybe she hitched a ride with someone else afterwards.

Granted, he should have left on his own if the van was registered to her, but in the police video Gabby says that she doesn’t really ever drive the van so maybe - you all don’t know this - maybe they had an agreement that he go home in the Van . For all you know , maybe all this drama is caused by this girl

Signed,
A woman

Well thought-out and completely rational post.

Sorry that some people here flipped out on you and posted hysterical attacks on you.

I believe we agree he is unlikely to be convicted of causing her death on the scant evidence known at present.

If he had an agreement - why would he refuse to tell her parents where he last saw her knowing they’re searching? Why not assist the police who are also looking for her? If he didn’t do anything wrong why did he not ever report her missing even after knowing no one could get in touch with her?

Ahaha the neighbors brought out a little golf cart and are now picketing his parents house. I hope sheltering their precious little murderer was worth it.

Three days later as they're escorted out of their house by the FBI - it definitely wasn't worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I watched the police body cam footage & think the police ultimately made many mistakes.

While they were very friendly and attempted to stay fair to both sides - the fact that they put up Brian in a hotel room while allowing Gabby to leave alone, uncomfortably driving the van to an unknown destination is outrageous.

I get that the officer stressed in the video that they, the authorities could not treat either party differently due to gender but c’mon…..gender definitely matters when sending a Female off alone in a van to fend for herself while driving a Male to a hotel and assuring he arrives safe and will be taken care of.

A girl has a much better chance at possibly attracting predators vs. a guy.
So yes gender matters in this case.

She deserved a hotel room while Brian should have had the option to just take the van.
Bad judgement of the officers IMO.

Also labeling her the “Aggressor” and him the “Victim” was preposterous at best.
Even then w/out the knowledge we have now.

Anyone speaking to them could see that she was continuously crying while he was chatting cheerfully w/the cops.
It was apparent that she was scared while to him, none of what was happening was even a big deal.

We have been over this SO. MANY. TIMES. She admitted to slapping/scratching him, so technically she was the abuser in the situation. They're not legally allowed to put the abuser up in a hotel room.

Legally allowed? Show me the law. It may be their policy or how they do things, but I seriously doubt there is a law.

Even if it was just their policy, THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. PLEASE stop blaming these guys, I'm sure they feel guilty, but they did what they were supposed to do.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda. She's still dead. The problem was these backwood simpletons couldn't size up the situation appropriately. Maybe they were nice enough, but nice is as nice does. She's dead. They misread the situation. Yeah, she scratched him. He milked those scratches for all they were worth. We don't know why she scratched him, but give me a break. That piece of garbage man MURDERED her. They were worried about a few scratches when they were coddling a murderer in the making? We don't even know if he also murdered the lesbian couple, but good chance he did - all things considered. Again, they were coddling a murderer.

These people shouldn't be cops. They bring to mind the cops who returned one of Jeffrey Dalhmer's victims to Dalhmer, who subsequently murdered and ate the poor guy.

This is absolute bs. How dare you blame them for what happened. They cannot predict the future. They did the best they could with the information they had. And btw, she was the aggressor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I watched the police body cam footage & think the police ultimately made many mistakes.

While they were very friendly and attempted to stay fair to both sides - the fact that they put up Brian in a hotel room while allowing Gabby to leave alone, uncomfortably driving the van to an unknown destination is outrageous.

I get that the officer stressed in the video that they, the authorities could not treat either party differently due to gender but c’mon…..gender definitely matters when sending a Female off alone in a van to fend for herself while driving a Male to a hotel and assuring he arrives safe and will be taken care of.

A girl has a much better chance at possibly attracting predators vs. a guy.
So yes gender matters in this case.

She deserved a hotel room while Brian should have had the option to just take the van.
Bad judgement of the officers IMO.

Also labeling her the “Aggressor” and him the “Victim” was preposterous at best.
Even then w/out the knowledge we have now.

Anyone speaking to them could see that she was continuously crying while he was chatting cheerfully w/the cops.
It was apparent that she was scared while to him, none of what was happening was even a big deal.

We have been over this SO. MANY. TIMES. She admitted to slapping/scratching him, so technically she was the abuser in the situation. They're not legally allowed to put the abuser up in a hotel room.

Legally allowed? Show me the law. It may be their policy or how they do things, but I seriously doubt there is a law.

Even if it was just their policy, THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. PLEASE stop blaming these guys, I'm sure they feel guilty, but they did what they were supposed to do.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda. She's still dead. The problem was these backwood simpletons couldn't size up the situation appropriately. Maybe they were nice enough, but nice is as nice does. She's dead. They misread the situation. Yeah, she scratched him. He milked those scratches for all they were worth. We don't know why she scratched him, but give me a break. That piece of garbage man MURDERED her. They were worried about a few scratches when they were coddling a murderer in the making? We don't even know if he also murdered the lesbian couple, but good chance he did - all things considered. Again, they were coddling a murderer.

These people shouldn't be cops. They bring to mind the cops who returned one of Jeffrey Dalhmer's victims to Dalhmer, who subsequently murdered and ate the poor guy.

This is absolute bs. How dare you blame them for what happened. They cannot predict the future. They did the best they could with the information they had. And btw, she was the aggressor.

+1

[Anonymous]

I'm just here to watch the thread shift from adamantly defending the obvious murderer because he's a white guy and white guys deserve infinite benefit of the doubt and deference to adamantly defending the incompetent cops because they're white guys who deserve infinite benefit of the doubt and deference.

Soon enough we'll be on to BL's dad - poor guy. His stupid wife must've made him help his son cover up a murder, right internet?

[Anonymous]

Wouldn't be surprised if the parents (and other family members) have been regularly withdrawing cash from their accounts and conveniently left wads of it laying around the house for Brian to pick up. That, plus a passport, probably means he is long gone probably to a place with difficult extradition back to US. Parents could deny they purposefully gave him money to help with his escape.

He tells them he's going for a walk in the swamp, with a backpack filled with cash & passport, and that's what they report.



He's too big of chicken to go to a country without extradition. We are talking places like Russia, China, Afghanistan, etc. He's not prepped for that.

He could easily do Brazil. His parents could have easily done a home equity loan in a day and cashed it all out. Now that the parents have been taken in, I'd bet it is for questioning about assisting him in some form or fashion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I watched the police body cam footage & think the police ultimately made many mistakes.

While they were very friendly and attempted to stay fair to both sides - the fact that they put up Brian in a hotel room while allowing Gabby to leave alone, uncomfortably driving the van to an unknown destination is outrageous.

I get that the officer stressed in the video that they, the authorities could not treat either party differently due to gender but c’mon…..gender definitely matters when sending a Female off alone in a van to fend for herself while driving a Male to a hotel and assuring he arrives safe and will be taken care of.

A girl has a much better chance at possibly attracting predators vs. a guy.
So yes gender matters in this case.

She deserved a hotel room while Brian should have had the option to just take the van.
Bad judgement of the officers IMO.

Also labeling her the “Aggressor” and him the “Victim” was preposterous at best.
Even then w/out the knowledge we have now.

Anyone speaking to them could see that she was continuously crying while he was chatting cheerfully w/the cops.
It was apparent that she was scared while to him, none of what was happening was even a big deal.

We have been over this SO. MANY. TIMES. She admitted to slapping/scratching him, so technically she was the abuser in the situation. They're not legally allowed to put the abuser up in a hotel room.

Legally allowed? Show me the law. It may be their policy or how they do things, but I seriously doubt there is a law.

Even if it was just their policy, THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. PLEASE stop blaming these guys, I'm sure they feel guilty, but they did what they were supposed to do.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda. She's still dead. The problem was these backwood simpletons couldn't size up the situation appropriately. Maybe they were nice enough, but nice is as nice does. She's dead. They misread the situation. Yeah, she scratched him. He milked those scratches for all they were worth. We don't know why she scratched him, but give me a break. That piece of garbage man MURDERED her. They were worried about a few scratches when they were coddling a murderer in the making? We don't even know if he also murdered the lesbian couple, but good chance he did - all things considered. Again, they were coddling a murderer.

These people shouldn't be cops. They bring to mind the cops who returned one of Jeffrey Dalhmer's victims to Dalhmer, who subsequently murdered and ate the poor guy.

This is absolute bs. How dare you blame them for what happened. They cannot predict the future. They did the best they could with the information they had. And btw, she was the aggressor.

Dp, but people with experience with domestic violence are aware that abusers frequently bait their victims, and are very good at gaslighting. She scratched him after he locked her out of her own car and tried to drive away.