Magruder HS Shooting

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Anonymous wrote:What about a sense of urgency to save a child's life? Why not medivac never mind NO SIREN for ambulance?

Deny, minimize, deflect - oh that stabber shooter must have left the bidg! oh that kid in the hall, i will let him in! never mind from Columbine on school shooters have been students, why follow protocol in a school that had recent repeated threats that were also dismissed? Why not be trained and drilled to respond to save victims and maximize safety?

It was EMS who expressed concern about the security situation at the school en route. Before THEY knew it was a gunshot they knew it could be unsafe and they had not heard of a police response on the radio and were uneasy. Common sense. They had it, the nurse performed well, everyone else did not.

An SRO presense may not have stopped the shooting, but the SRO would know to treat this with the utmost urgency and call the cops.

As stated, they are trained to assess and respond to threats. Security guards are not. Heck, even the EMS knew better than the admins and security guard, who again are not trained for this type of thing.

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I'm not convinced an SRO wouldn't have stopped this either.
Unfortunately for the child, we will never know.

There is great chance he could have prevented this by knowing a beef was brewing. And help talk the kids out of it. That’s what they are best at.

They have literally never done that.

I have “literally” seen SROs do that on several occasions at my school. This is “literally” what they do… get to know the kids and help them make better choices. The SROs at my high school were amazing.

You have "literally" seen SROs talk a murderer out of murdering.

Okay Polly Anna!

It does not happen. It has never happened in MoCo schools.

I love your confidence but you are literally wrong. An SRO stopped a student from shooting up Clarksburg High School, a MoCo school. Not sure if you know that though. From your response, you do not seem like you're familiar with MoCo at all.

+1. Also, the original post said SROs would recognize “beefs” and could talk kids out of them. Yes, I have seen that. Regularly, actually, before the council decided SROs are evil.

The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

I don't know where you get your stories from but that's not what happened. A student told the Clarksburg SRO about the gun and the SRO apprehended the kid with the gun in a bathroom.
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/student-who-brought-loaded-gun-to-clarksburg-high-school-sentenced-to-four-months-in-prison/

The report is incomplete. The student told the front office, they called the SRO to the front office, the student told the SRO, the SRO called for backup and the police arrested the student.

Yes sure, whatever makes you happy. That's not what happened but if it makes you feel better, it's cool.

Yes the truth is cool, but if you have some imaginary fantasy that SRO’s are stopping murders you’re delusional.

Remember when reading a new paper article

1. Police report are statements made at the scene not investigated or verified anything in a paper after the event are unverified accounts
2. Police investigation are statements in a report with evidence and backed with proof

Read the actual police investigation for the truth not Bethesda magazine. Ffs!

[Anonymous]

I have seen the video of the family. Poor kid. But, sorry: integration via the school system does not work. Families are key. This level of marginalization is a lacra for society.

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Anonymous wrote:The SROs have many different functions. A lot of what the do is intangible.bit extremely valuable—forging relationships with students, monitoring activities, staying in touch with parents. Much more valuable than a “rent a cop” security guard. There’s no way to quantify the plaice effects sros have for schools. Kind of like a social worker— doing lots of good things that are not measurable.

But let me take that back, it is measurable! Zero students shot when sros were in the schools.

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Any word on the victim? I haven’t seen an update. I hope he recovers.

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Anonymous wrote:What about a sense of urgency to save a child's life? Why not medivac never mind NO SIREN for ambulance?

Deny, minimize, deflect - oh that stabber shooter must have left the bidg! oh that kid in the hall, i will let him in! never mind from Columbine on school shooters have been students, why follow protocol in a school that had recent repeated threats that were also dismissed? Why not be trained and drilled to respond to save victims and maximize safety?

It was EMS who expressed concern about the security situation at the school en route. Before THEY knew it was a gunshot they knew it could be unsafe and they had not heard of a police response on the radio and were uneasy. Common sense. They had it, the nurse performed well, everyone else did not.

An SRO presense may not have stopped the shooting, but the SRO would know to treat this with the utmost urgency and call the cops.

As stated, they are trained to assess and respond to threats. Security guards are not. Heck, even the EMS knew better than the admins and security guard, who again are not trained for this type of thing.

This.

I'm not convinced an SRO wouldn't have stopped this either.
Unfortunately for the child, we will never know.

There is great chance he could have prevented this by knowing a beef was brewing. And help talk the kids out of it. That’s what they are best at.

They have literally never done that.

I have “literally” seen SROs do that on several occasions at my school. This is “literally” what they do… get to know the kids and help them make better choices. The SROs at my high school were amazing.

You have "literally" seen SROs talk a murderer out of murdering.

Okay Polly Anna!

It does not happen. It has never happened in MoCo schools.

I love your confidence but you are literally wrong. An SRO stopped a student from shooting up Clarksburg High School, a MoCo school. Not sure if you know that though. From your response, you do not seem like you're familiar with MoCo at all.

+1. Also, the original post said SROs would recognize “beefs” and could talk kids out of them. Yes, I have seen that. Regularly, actually, before the council decided SROs are evil.

The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

I don't know where you get your stories from but that's not what happened. A student told the Clarksburg SRO about the gun and the SRO apprehended the kid with the gun in a bathroom.
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/student-who-brought-loaded-gun-to-clarksburg-high-school-sentenced-to-four-months-in-prison/

The report is incomplete. The student told the front office, they called the SRO to the front office, the student told the SRO, the SRO called for backup and the police arrested the student.

Yes sure, whatever makes you happy. That's not what happened but if it makes you feel better, it's cool.

Yes the truth is cool, but if you have some imaginary fantasy that SRO’s are stopping murders you’re delusional.

Remember when reading a new paper article

1. Police report are statements made at the scene not investigated or verified anything in a paper after the event are unverified accounts
2. Police investigation are statements in a report with evidence and backed with proof

Read the actual police investigation for the truth not Bethesda magazine. Ffs!

Of course! 🤣🤣

[Anonymous]

Looks like the motive was because of a girl? Anyone, heard that. One of the YouTube video comments mentioned this..

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the motive was because of a girl? Anyone, heard that. One of the YouTube video comments mentioned this..

Link or it didn’t happen.

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If it was gang violence, the victim may not be so innocent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The SROs have many different functions. A lot of what the do is intangible.bit extremely valuable—forging relationships with students, monitoring activities, staying in touch with parents. Much more valuable than a “rent a cop” security guard. There’s no way to quantify the plaice effects sros have for schools. Kind of like a social worker— doing lots of good things that are not measurable.

But let me take that back, it is measurable! Zero students shot when sros were in the schools.

This.

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The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

DP.. if SROs are useless, why did PG county school decide to keep SROs.. 84% surveyed wanted to keep them.

Alexandria just brought them back after and uptick in violence.

But MC is going to dig the hole deeper after a SHOOTING in the SCHOOL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any word on the victim? I haven’t seen an update. I hope he recovers.

Still critical was reported today.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

DP.. if SROs are useless, why did PG county school decide to keep SROs.. 84% surveyed wanted to keep them.

Alexandria just brought them back after and uptick in violence.

But MC is going to dig the hole deeper after a SHOOTING in the SCHOOL?

They obviously don’t really care about keeping kids safe in school. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it was gang violence, the victim may not be so innocent.

I heard they were secret agents from china and russia.

[Anonymous]

https://twitter.com/NickWTOP/status/1486665285411168259?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1486665285411168259%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwtop.com%2Fmontgomery-county%2F2022%2F01%2Fonly-on-wtop-students-were-trapped-for-hours-with-alleged-magruder-high-school-shooter%2F

Students are starting to speak to the media. Listen to this story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

DP.. if SROs are useless, why did PG county school decide to keep SROs.. 84% surveyed wanted to keep them.

Alexandria just brought them back after and uptick in violence.

But MC is going to dig the hole deeper after a SHOOTING in the SCHOOL?

a few other districts across the country brought SROs back in some capacity after a school shooting. The admins and city/county leadres there take action. Here in MoCo, the county leaders want kids to just hug it out.