Magruder HS Shooting

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Anonymous wrote:What about a sense of urgency to save a child's life? Why not medivac never mind NO SIREN for ambulance?

Deny, minimize, deflect - oh that stabber shooter must have left the bidg! oh that kid in the hall, i will let him in! never mind from Columbine on school shooters have been students, why follow protocol in a school that had recent repeated threats that were also dismissed? Why not be trained and drilled to respond to save victims and maximize safety?

It was EMS who expressed concern about the security situation at the school en route. Before THEY knew it was a gunshot they knew it could be unsafe and they had not heard of a police response on the radio and were uneasy. Common sense. They had it, the nurse performed well, everyone else did not.

An SRO presense may not have stopped the shooting, but the SRO would know to treat this with the utmost urgency and call the cops.

As stated, they are trained to assess and respond to threats. Security guards are not. Heck, even the EMS knew better than the admins and security guard, who again are not trained for this type of thing.

This.

I'm not convinced an SRO wouldn't have stopped this either.
Unfortunately for the child, we will never know.

There is great chance he could have prevented this by knowing a beef was brewing. And help talk the kids out of it. That’s what they are best at.

They have literally never done that.

I have “literally” seen SROs do that on several occasions at my school. This is “literally” what they do… get to know the kids and help them make better choices. The SROs at my high school were amazing.

You have "literally" seen SROs talk a murderer out of murdering.

Okay Polly Anna!

It does not happen. It has never happened in MoCo schools.

I love your confidence but you are literally wrong. An SRO stopped a student from shooting up Clarksburg High School, a MoCo school. Not sure if you know that though. From your response, you do not seem like you're familiar with MoCo at all.

+1. Also, the original post said SROs would recognize “beefs” and could talk kids out of them. Yes, I have seen that. Regularly, actually, before the council decided SROs are evil.

The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

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The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

DP.. if SROs are useless, why did PG county school decide to keep SROs.. 84% surveyed wanted to keep them.

[Anonymous]

The SROs have many different functions. A lot of what the do is intangible.bit extremely valuable—forging relationships with students, monitoring activities, staying in touch with parents. Much more valuable than a “rent a cop” security guard. There’s no way to quantify the plaice effects sros have for schools. Kind of like a social worker— doing lots of good things that are not measurable.

But let me take that back, it is measurable! Zero students shot when sros were in the schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought there were witnesses to the shooting. Weren’t there other kids there?

According to the police chief other students were present in the bathroom. The police chief stated that it was a pre-planned confrontation.

This shooter needs to be charged with attempted murder AS AN ADULT.
This is just sickening.

This is Montgomery County. Our justice system will see the accused young man as a ‘victim’ and that will result in some leniency.

Keep it up, he’s already been charged as an adult. That’s why we know his name.

Did you not watch that link? It said the case had been sent to juvenile court.

Also, we’ve seen how the justice system works in this county. They’ll try to portray the victim poorly, like they did in the Rockville case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The SROs have many different functions. A lot of what the do is intangible.bit extremely valuable—forging relationships with students, monitoring activities, staying in touch with parents. Much more valuable than a “rent a cop” security guard. There’s no way to quantify the plaice effects sros have for schools. Kind of like a social worker— doing lots of good things that are not measurable.

But let me take that back, it is measurable! Zero students shot when sros were in the schools.

This.

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Would really like to know more about this family. How does someone get to this level of disfunction?

[Anonymous]

Soo which other schools had ghost guns confiscated this year? 1-Magruder, 2-I assume they're including the recent Gaithersburg incident even though it wasn't in the hands of a student, 3- possibly the Wheaton gun (not the bb), 4- are they counting this Northwood incident?
https://wjla.com/news/local/wheaton-high-school-student-loaded-handgun-gun-glock-resource-officers-teen-montgomery-county-public-schools

Elrich said 5 ghost guns have been confiscated this school year.

In the above article, MCPD says the Wheaton gun was "the first loaded handgun the department has recovered on Montgomery County Public Schools property this school year." Emphasis on loaded.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about a sense of urgency to save a child's life? Why not medivac never mind NO SIREN for ambulance?

Deny, minimize, deflect - oh that stabber shooter must have left the bidg! oh that kid in the hall, i will let him in! never mind from Columbine on school shooters have been students, why follow protocol in a school that had recent repeated threats that were also dismissed? Why not be trained and drilled to respond to save victims and maximize safety?

It was EMS who expressed concern about the security situation at the school en route. Before THEY knew it was a gunshot they knew it could be unsafe and they had not heard of a police response on the radio and were uneasy. Common sense. They had it, the nurse performed well, everyone else did not.

An SRO presense may not have stopped the shooting, but the SRO would know to treat this with the utmost urgency and call the cops.

As stated, they are trained to assess and respond to threats. Security guards are not. Heck, even the EMS knew better than the admins and security guard, who again are not trained for this type of thing.

This.

I'm not convinced an SRO wouldn't have stopped this either.
Unfortunately for the child, we will never know.

There is great chance he could have prevented this by knowing a beef was brewing. And help talk the kids out of it. That’s what they are best at.

They have literally never done that.

I have “literally” seen SROs do that on several occasions at my school. This is “literally” what they do… get to know the kids and help them make better choices. The SROs at my high school were amazing.

You have "literally" seen SROs talk a murderer out of murdering.

Okay Polly Anna!

It does not happen. It has never happened in MoCo schools.

I love your confidence but you are literally wrong. An SRO stopped a student from shooting up Clarksburg High School, a MoCo school. Not sure if you know that though. From your response, you do not seem like you're familiar with MoCo at all.

+1. Also, the original post said SROs would recognize “beefs” and could talk kids out of them. Yes, I have seen that. Regularly, actually, before the council decided SROs are evil.

The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

Try again. There is a video that shows a quince orchard SRO interview and interviews of students at his school.
One of the students casually mentions that she likes having sros in school because the kids tell them about fights about to happen and the sros prevent them.

You're the one who's out of touch. You're the one who hangs your hatred of police (probably because you have criminals in your family) out and uses it as a chain around poc by trying to say they target poc so it's unjust to have them in school. Yet poc are the ones most vulnerable to not having them in school because it is poc children who are shot and murdered when you take sros away. And that as we have tragically watched unfold infant of us this week, is the fact, Jackass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought there were witnesses to the shooting. Weren’t there other kids there?

According to the police chief other students were present in the bathroom. The police chief stated that it was a pre-planned confrontation.

This shooter needs to be charged with attempted murder AS AN ADULT.
This is just sickening.

This is Montgomery County. Our justice system will see the accused young man as a ‘victim’ and that will result in some leniency.

Keep it up, he’s already been charged as an adult. That’s why we know his name.

Did you not watch that link? It said the case had been sent to juvenile court.

Also, we’ve seen how the justice system works in this county. They’ll try to portray the victim poorly, like they did in the Rockville case.

Not sure which link you mean, but the WUSA story only said he's in custody at the juvenile detention facility, which is not the same thing as the case being sent to juvenile court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought there were witnesses to the shooting. Weren’t there other kids there?

According to the police chief other students were present in the bathroom. The police chief stated that it was a pre-planned confrontation.

This shooter needs to be charged with attempted murder AS AN ADULT.
This is just sickening.

This is Montgomery County. Our justice system will see the accused young man as a ‘victim’ and that will result in some leniency.

Keep it up, he’s already been charged as an adult. That’s why we know his name.

Did you not watch that link? It said the case had been sent to juvenile court.

Also, we’ve seen how the justice system works in this county. They’ll try to portray the victim poorly, like they did in the Rockville case.

NP. The video doesn't say that. The shooter has been charged as an adult. That may change following a hearing but I don't see any reporting showing that that hearing has happened yet. All the judge has done so far is move Alston to a juvenile facility for detention, but that doesn't change the charges.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about a sense of urgency to save a child's life? Why not medivac never mind NO SIREN for ambulance?

Deny, minimize, deflect - oh that stabber shooter must have left the bidg! oh that kid in the hall, i will let him in! never mind from Columbine on school shooters have been students, why follow protocol in a school that had recent repeated threats that were also dismissed? Why not be trained and drilled to respond to save victims and maximize safety?

It was EMS who expressed concern about the security situation at the school en route. Before THEY knew it was a gunshot they knew it could be unsafe and they had not heard of a police response on the radio and were uneasy. Common sense. They had it, the nurse performed well, everyone else did not.

An SRO presense may not have stopped the shooting, but the SRO would know to treat this with the utmost urgency and call the cops.

As stated, they are trained to assess and respond to threats. Security guards are not. Heck, even the EMS knew better than the admins and security guard, who again are not trained for this type of thing.

This.

I'm not convinced an SRO wouldn't have stopped this either.
Unfortunately for the child, we will never know.

There is great chance he could have prevented this by knowing a beef was brewing. And help talk the kids out of it. That’s what they are best at.

They have literally never done that.

I have “literally” seen SROs do that on several occasions at my school. This is “literally” what they do… get to know the kids and help them make better choices. The SROs at my high school were amazing.

You have "literally" seen SROs talk a murderer out of murdering.

Okay Polly Anna!

It does not happen. It has never happened in MoCo schools.

I love your confidence but you are literally wrong. An SRO stopped a student from shooting up Clarksburg High School, a MoCo school. Not sure if you know that though. From your response, you do not seem like you're familiar with MoCo at all.

+1. Also, the original post said SROs would recognize “beefs” and could talk kids out of them. Yes, I have seen that. Regularly, actually, before the council decided SROs are evil.

The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

I don't know where you get your stories from but that's not what happened. A student told the Clarksburg SRO about the gun and the SRO apprehended the kid with the gun in a bathroom.
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/student-who-brought-loaded-gun-to-clarksburg-high-school-sentenced-to-four-months-in-prison/

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2018 story
Lone resource officer's quick action stopped the Maryland school shooter within seconds
By Carma Hassan and Saeed Ahmed, CNN
Updated 7:12 AM EDT, Wed March 21, 2018

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about a sense of urgency to save a child's life? Why not medivac never mind NO SIREN for ambulance?

Deny, minimize, deflect - oh that stabber shooter must have left the bidg! oh that kid in the hall, i will let him in! never mind from Columbine on school shooters have been students, why follow protocol in a school that had recent repeated threats that were also dismissed? Why not be trained and drilled to respond to save victims and maximize safety?

It was EMS who expressed concern about the security situation at the school en route. Before THEY knew it was a gunshot they knew it could be unsafe and they had not heard of a police response on the radio and were uneasy. Common sense. They had it, the nurse performed well, everyone else did not.

An SRO presense may not have stopped the shooting, but the SRO would know to treat this with the utmost urgency and call the cops.

As stated, they are trained to assess and respond to threats. Security guards are not. Heck, even the EMS knew better than the admins and security guard, who again are not trained for this type of thing.

This.

I'm not convinced an SRO wouldn't have stopped this either.
Unfortunately for the child, we will never know.

There is great chance he could have prevented this by knowing a beef was brewing. And help talk the kids out of it. That’s what they are best at.

They have literally never done that.

I have “literally” seen SROs do that on several occasions at my school. This is “literally” what they do… get to know the kids and help them make better choices. The SROs at my high school were amazing.

You have "literally" seen SROs talk a murderer out of murdering.

Okay Polly Anna!

It does not happen. It has never happened in MoCo schools.

I love your confidence but you are literally wrong. An SRO stopped a student from shooting up Clarksburg High School, a MoCo school. Not sure if you know that though. From your response, you do not seem like you're familiar with MoCo at all.

+1. Also, the original post said SROs would recognize “beefs” and could talk kids out of them. Yes, I have seen that. Regularly, actually, before the council decided SROs are evil.

The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

I don't know where you get your stories from but that's not what happened. A student told the Clarksburg SRO about the gun and the SRO apprehended the kid with the gun in a bathroom.
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/student-who-brought-loaded-gun-to-clarksburg-high-school-sentenced-to-four-months-in-prison/

The report is incomplete. The student told the front office, they called the SRO to the front office, the student told the SRO, the SRO called for backup and the police arrested the student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2018 story
Lone resource officer's quick action stopped the Maryland school shooter within seconds
By Carma Hassan and Saeed Ahmed, CNN
Updated 7:12 AM EDT, Wed March 21, 2018

The SRO in that story did not “stop the shooter”.

They wrote the report before the investigation was done.

The shooter shot him self.

The SRO blew it and shot and missed and is just lucky he didn’t hit another student.

At the autopsy they realized the bullet was from the kids gun and the billet from the SRO was in the wall somewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about a sense of urgency to save a child's life? Why not medivac never mind NO SIREN for ambulance?

Deny, minimize, deflect - oh that stabber shooter must have left the bidg! oh that kid in the hall, i will let him in! never mind from Columbine on school shooters have been students, why follow protocol in a school that had recent repeated threats that were also dismissed? Why not be trained and drilled to respond to save victims and maximize safety?

It was EMS who expressed concern about the security situation at the school en route. Before THEY knew it was a gunshot they knew it could be unsafe and they had not heard of a police response on the radio and were uneasy. Common sense. They had it, the nurse performed well, everyone else did not.

An SRO presense may not have stopped the shooting, but the SRO would know to treat this with the utmost urgency and call the cops.

As stated, they are trained to assess and respond to threats. Security guards are not. Heck, even the EMS knew better than the admins and security guard, who again are not trained for this type of thing.

This.

I'm not convinced an SRO wouldn't have stopped this either.
Unfortunately for the child, we will never know.

There is great chance he could have prevented this by knowing a beef was brewing. And help talk the kids out of it. That’s what they are best at.

They have literally never done that.

I have “literally” seen SROs do that on several occasions at my school. This is “literally” what they do… get to know the kids and help them make better choices. The SROs at my high school were amazing.

You have "literally" seen SROs talk a murderer out of murdering.

Okay Polly Anna!

It does not happen. It has never happened in MoCo schools.

I love your confidence but you are literally wrong. An SRO stopped a student from shooting up Clarksburg High School, a MoCo school. Not sure if you know that though. From your response, you do not seem like you're familiar with MoCo at all.

+1. Also, the original post said SROs would recognize “beefs” and could talk kids out of them. Yes, I have seen that. Regularly, actually, before the council decided SROs are evil.

The SRO did NOT stop the Clarksburg incident. A child told the front office.

No SRO’s don’t stop crime nor do they recognize “beefs”. Sure let’s go “beef” in front of the SRO, you guys are so out of touch.

I don't know where you get your stories from but that's not what happened. A student told the Clarksburg SRO about the gun and the SRO apprehended the kid with the gun in a bathroom.
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/student-who-brought-loaded-gun-to-clarksburg-high-school-sentenced-to-four-months-in-prison/

The report is incomplete. The student told the front office, they called the SRO to the front office, the student told the SRO, the SRO called for backup and the police arrested the student.

Yes sure, whatever makes you happy. That's not what happened but if it makes you feel better, it's cool.