Is there any evidence that a teacher has died from COVID that was transmitted from a student?

[Anonymous]

“...a new Pew Research poll has found that a majority of Americans — 59 percent — believe that K-12 schools that have yet to open should remain closed for now, at least until all teachers who want a vaccine get one, compared to just 40 percent who say schools should reopen as quickly as possible.”

https://apple.news/AyRzwSiivRvSI-qvijIl3xQ

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Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

I love that apparently you requested an accommodation on the basis of parents not being grateful enough to you and you not feeling inspired. It's good that the rest of us aren't as fragile about our jobs.

When you have to return to school, the parents will still be there, even angrier at you for abandoning their kids. What will you do then?

It’s a job. I didn’t abandon anyone. Parents are always telling teachers to quit if they don’t like their jobs (including in this very thread), but if my job offers the option of working remotely then I have every right to do so. 80% of workers are currently working from home in my city. I have no less of a right to be safe during the pandemic than everyone else. I got a medical accommodation, which is my right (according to my employer and in accordance to CEC guidelines about conditions that put individuals at an elevated risk). If parents had been on our team, I might have made a different decision. An example? I had a student come in coughing and lethargic. The nurse said he seemed fine! His mother openly told me later that week that she thought it was COVID and had just that day received negative results. I was lost for words.

It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment or trying to make the best choice for my own family. You would never consider your child’s teacher when making a calculation about your own. As I already said, parents were and still are angry at the teachers and our school is open five days a week. Now they’re angry because they don’t want the windows to be open (they say it’s child abuse) for ventilation, they don’t think their child should have to wear a mask, they don’t want there to be distancing, and they want school to stay open even when multiple people test positive for COVID. Parents are angry that there are any safety protocols in place. They can be angry all they want. Teachers aren’t going to give up they safety protocols to placate them.

That was a pretty quick turnaround for contradicting yourself.

"Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home"
"It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment"

Would also love to hear the source of the 80% number.

She clearly didn't understand the point. I also don't believe her that parents are calling open windows child abuse, unless maybe she's in Mississippi or something.

Holt crap. 80% working from home. Where do you live?? It’s 32-35% of people who are working from home. It’s expected to drop now that cases are low. It’s great some people can still work from home, but it’s not 80%.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/321800/covid-remote-work-update.aspx

DP. My neighborhood is 1/2 working class and 1/2 MC. Most of the working class side is back in a physical workplace. Only a few of my MC neighbors are back. One is a fed who works in a lab 2 days a week. The other two are a private school teacher and a chef. Both had Covid already. So we are above 50% WFH.

In my largely MC social circle and huge extended family , we’re upwards of 95% WFH. I can count on one hand people who are back in person and only two stayed in person. My brother in law enforcement. My cousin who stayed in person is a med school resident. But we have a cousin who is still doing telehealth only work.

I don't understand what your point is other than that you have an insulated bubble of contacts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“...a new Pew Research poll has found that a majority of Americans — 59 percent — believe that K-12 schools that have yet to open should remain closed for now, at least until all teachers who want a vaccine get one, compared to just 40 percent who say schools should reopen as quickly as possible.”

https://apple.news/AyRzwSiivRvSI-qvijIl3xQ

So? Why make policy based on opinion polling rather than science?

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Going back to the original question, no, there's no evidence. This thread should be over.

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Anonymous wrote:Going back to the original question, no, there's no evidence. This thread should be over.

There’s also no evidence any doctors or nurses caught COVID from a patient, so really, they shouldn’t be prioritized for the vaccine.

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Anonymous wrote:Going back to the original question, no, there's no evidence. This thread should be over.

There’s also no evidence any doctors or nurses caught COVID from a patient, so really, they shouldn’t be prioritized for the vaccine.

Yup. I am sure we could spin it to “prove” that health care workers got Covid in the community.

[Anonymous]

Do you moldy oranges not understand what contact tracing is? We do actually live in a world where we can know things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

Wow trolling again.

You want schools open complaint to the GOP otherwise they will never open.

Those "Freedom" screamers created this mess with their golden calf cult leader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you moldy oranges not understand what contact tracing is? We do actually live in a world where we can know things.

Please. We don’t do genomic sequencing here so we actually don’t know who infected who. We do know that many cases are asymptomatic, that children are overrepresented in this asymptomatic group, and that people are contagious prior to the onset of symptoms as well. Contact tracers are unable to determine any links in 80% of COVID cases (much less determine the point of origin). A 20% success rate is miserable.
Just because it is technically possible to do these things doesn’t mean that it’s effective in the real world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you moldy oranges not understand what contact tracing is? We do actually live in a world where we can know things.

Please. We don’t do genomic sequencing here so we actually don’t know who infected who. We do know that many cases are asymptomatic, that children are overrepresented in this asymptomatic group, and that people are contagious prior to the onset of symptoms as well. Contact tracers are unable to determine any links in 80% of COVID cases (much less determine the point of origin). A 20% success rate is miserable.
Just because it is technically possible to do these things doesn’t mean that it’s effective in the real world.

Ah, I see. You are one of the people who needs 100% surety in things to move forward, and therefore you believe contact tracing is useless. Guess what? You live in a world of probabilities. You know almost nothing for certain. It must be sad to live in a world where even a weather report has no meaning to you.

I also believe you are misrepresenting the data, but that's a different issue.

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Yes. Media don’t want you to know though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/ld6lw4/covid_death/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/jjbn3g/parents_in_socalled_mom_code_allegedly_refuse_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf