Is there any evidence that a teacher has died from COVID that was transmitted from a student?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/14/890716897/teacher-recovering-from-covid-19-says-school-reopening-is-tough-decision

This is not evidence. The teachers could have easily given it to each other, and one got it from somewhere else.

Or they could have gotten it in school. But since contact trading in the US is a voluntary joke, and since positive kids often have minimal (explained away as "allergies") or no symptoms, entitled Open Er Up parents can pretend that all the teachers got it from " parties" or "vacations."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/14/890716897/teacher-recovering-from-covid-19-says-school-reopening-is-tough-decision

This is not evidence. The teachers could have easily given it to each other, and one got it from somewhere else.

Or they could have gotten it in school. But since contact trading in the US is a voluntary joke, and since positive kids often have minimal (explained away as "allergies") or no symptoms, entitled Open Er Up parents can pretend that all the teachers got it from " parties" or "vacations."

Oh yes — entitled parents who are following CDC recommendations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What evidence that a nurse got it from a patient? Or a grocery worker from a customer? Or a bus driver from a passenger?

Teachers can, have, and will spread it to each other because teachers are forced to share classrooms and other poorly ventilated spaces. Since teachers can only use the bathroom in between classes, they often cram into multi-stall staff restrooms at the same time. Will we ask teachers to hold their bladders all day or wear diapers? Or should they just leave classes unattended so they can stagger bathroom breaks? Likewise, workrooms are often unventilated spaces where teachers have to go to pickup mail, make copies, and call parents. If you want hard copy worksheets rather than screens, you are going to need teachers to line up to make copies during their planning periods.

Wear a mask. Planes are completely full. Flight Attendants are unvaccinated. And people wear masks and there are no mass outbreaks. I don't understand why you think classrooms are worse than planes?

Planes actually have state of the art ventilation and air cleaning and recycling that changes the air very frequently and use industrial hepa filters.
https://www.cheapair.com/blog/how-airplane-ventilation-actually-works/

Its like cheap casinos and expensive ones. The pricey ones have air vents and filters in the floors and all ofer and you cant smell the cigsr of the guy smoking across the craps table from you. In the cheap casino the whole floor smells of smoke all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What evidence that a nurse got it from a patient? Or a grocery worker from a customer? Or a bus driver from a passenger?

Teachers can, have, and will spread it to each other because teachers are forced to share classrooms and other poorly ventilated spaces. Since teachers can only use the bathroom in between classes, they often cram into multi-stall staff restrooms at the same time. Will we ask teachers to hold their bladders all day or wear diapers? Or should they just leave classes unattended so they can stagger bathroom breaks? Likewise, workrooms are often unventilated spaces where teachers have to go to pickup mail, make copies, and call parents. If you want hard copy worksheets rather than screens, you are going to need teachers to line up to make copies during their planning periods.

Wear a mask. Planes are completely full. Flight Attendants are unvaccinated. And people wear masks and there are no mass outbreaks. I don't understand why you think classrooms are worse than planes?

How many people are forced to fly on a plane for work these days? My brother used to travel for work three out of four weeks. His company does it all by Zoom now.

[Anonymous]

Aren’t teachers vaccinated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What evidence that a nurse got it from a patient? Or a grocery worker from a customer? Or a bus driver from a passenger?

Teachers can, have, and will spread it to each other because teachers are forced to share classrooms and other poorly ventilated spaces. Since teachers can only use the bathroom in between classes, they often cram into multi-stall staff restrooms at the same time. Will we ask teachers to hold their bladders all day or wear diapers? Or should they just leave classes unattended so they can stagger bathroom breaks? Likewise, workrooms are often unventilated spaces where teachers have to go to pickup mail, make copies, and call parents. If you want hard copy worksheets rather than screens, you are going to need teachers to line up to make copies during their planning periods.

Wear a mask. Planes are completely full. Flight Attendants are unvaccinated. And people wear masks and there are no mass outbreaks. I don't understand why you think classrooms are worse than planes?

How many people are forced to fly on a plane for work these days? My brother used to travel for work three out of four weeks. His company does it all by Zoom now.

No one is forced but the flight attendant. And journalists that are reporting. And doctors travelling to help surge areas. And senators fleeing state crises.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What evidence that a nurse got it from a patient? Or a grocery worker from a customer? Or a bus driver from a passenger?

Teachers can, have, and will spread it to each other because teachers are forced to share classrooms and other poorly ventilated spaces. Since teachers can only use the bathroom in between classes, they often cram into multi-stall staff restrooms at the same time. Will we ask teachers to hold their bladders all day or wear diapers? Or should they just leave classes unattended so they can stagger bathroom breaks? Likewise, workrooms are often unventilated spaces where teachers have to go to pickup mail, make copies, and call parents. If you want hard copy worksheets rather than screens, you are going to need teachers to line up to make copies during their planning periods.

Wear a mask. Planes are completely full. Flight Attendants are unvaccinated. And people wear masks and there are no mass outbreaks. I don't understand why you think classrooms are worse than planes?

Planes actually have state of the art ventilation and air cleaning and recycling that changes the air very frequently and use industrial hepa filters.
https://www.cheapair.com/blog/how-airplane-ventilation-actually-works/

Its like cheap casinos and expensive ones. The pricey ones have air vents and filters in the floors and all ofer and you cant smell the cigsr of the guy smoking across the craps table from you. In the cheap casino the whole floor smells of smoke all the time.

Not until the plane leaves the ground. On the ground the filters are off.

[Anonymous]

Why is it necessary to prove they got it from student? I don't Iike what you are implying- that there's no risk here. Putting hundreds of people in a building IS A RISK. Period.

Kids are asymptomatic quite often as are many adults. No one's testing, no one's contact tracing. Teachers definitely will be at risk. So will students. So will the community.

[Anonymous]

So will the family members at home, especially 3-generational families.

[Anonymous]

Not in this part of the DMV, since none of our kids have been in school for about a year now. I don't suggest that all teachers and all kids need to get back, but it is definitely long past time to bring back small groups of kids with disabilities. I mean, when I see schools arguing that it is ok to have daycares running in their buildings because "the groups are smaller," it leads to the question of, "why are the smaller groups made up of rich NT kids whose parents can pay, rather than smaller groups of disabled kids entitied to FAPE?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren’t teachers vaccinated?

Yes, teachers have been vaccinated. 95% effective rate.

[Anonymous]

i love the part where no one is able to answer OPs question. instead they're like "other people have had it in other circumstances!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren’t teachers vaccinated?

Not all are yet. I would like to know what % are already vaccinated but I don't know where you'd find this info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i love the part where no one is able to answer OPs question. instead they're like "other people have had it in other circumstances!"

There is no proof anyone got COVID from anywhere. Why would this be different for schools? Whenever teachers die of COVID people quickly point out that they don’t know where or how they contracted it, even though there are ongoing outbreaks in schools and many of their families report that they didn’t otherwise go out.

[Anonymous]

3 million kids had covid so far. I think it is safe to say that some kids infected adults.