Is there any evidence that a teacher has died from COVID that was transmitted from a student?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

[Anonymous]

There’s a fundamental difference of opinion surrounding a lot of COVID-19 debates. Some people want evidence that an activity is safe. Others want proof that an activity is dangerous. These are fundamentally different ways of evaluating risk. “The science is in my side” posts won’t shift the way people feel about risk.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a fundamental difference of opinion surrounding a lot of COVID-19 debates. Some people want evidence that an activity is safe. Others want proof that an activity is dangerous. These are fundamentally different ways of evaluating risk. “The science is in my side” posts won’t shift the way people feel about risk.

Define “safe”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

Zero evidence. So much for science!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

Wow. Is this at a private school? I assume that you've had many cases?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s a fundamental difference of opinion surrounding a lot of COVID-19 debates. Some people want evidence that an activity is safe. Others want proof that an activity is dangerous. These are fundamentally different ways of evaluating risk. “The science is in my side” posts won’t shift the way people feel about risk.

Without data (testing/tracing), we don't really know enough to evaluate risk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

This is disingenuous question and you know it OP. Shame on you.

Actually, I think a lot of teachers would like to know the answer. But there is no answer, because no one has been keeping track.

It is very very difficult to prove occupational transmission unless you are constructing phylogenetic relationships of individual sequences AND have full knowledge of timeline and all contacts AND there is either low community caseload or limited contacts between people. There is a reason that occupational health exposures more broadly are such a legal nightmare to prove. Some of the replies in this thread is so disingenuous. As PP pointed out, no one is asking doctors if they got COVID at a restaurant/gym/dinner party. I want schools to open safely too, but teachers are right to be concerned for their health if they are exposed on a daily basis for a prolonged period of time, indoors, with questionable ventilation, to a bunch of kids whose parents have varying levels of COVID safety. Hopefully they can all be vaccinated soon and we can all GTFBackToNormal.

+1

So disingenuous. Without surveillance testing and tracing we don’t know.

Teacher haters are so transparent with their “must have caught out of school” claims. Sure, dude.

+2

Is this true or are we just acting like it's true in order to make a point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

I love that apparently you requested an accommodation on the basis of parents not being grateful enough to you and you not feeling inspired. It's good that the rest of us aren't as fragile about our jobs.

When you have to return to school, the parents will still be there, even angrier at you for abandoning their kids. What will you do then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

I love that apparently you requested an accommodation on the basis of parents not being grateful enough to you and you not feeling inspired. It's good that the rest of us aren't as fragile about our jobs.

When you have to return to school, the parents will still be there, even angrier at you for abandoning their kids. What will you do then?

+1

Always fun to try to run away from your problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

I love that apparently you requested an accommodation on the basis of parents not being grateful enough to you and you not feeling inspired. It's good that the rest of us aren't as fragile about our jobs.

When you have to return to school, the parents will still be there, even angrier at you for abandoning their kids. What will you do then?

It’s a job. I didn’t abandon anyone. Parents are always telling teachers to quit if they don’t like their jobs (including in this very thread), but if my job offers the option of working remotely then I have every right to do so. 80% of workers are currently working from home in my city. I have no less of a right to be safe during the pandemic than everyone else. I got a medical accommodation, which is my right (according to my employer and in accordance to CEC guidelines about conditions that put individuals at an elevated risk). If parents had been on our team, I might have made a different decision. An example? I had a student come in coughing and lethargic. The nurse said he seemed fine! His mother openly told me later that week that she thought it was COVID and had just that day received negative results. I was lost for words.

It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment or trying to make the best choice for my own family. You would never consider your child’s teacher when making a calculation about your own. As I already said, parents were and still are angry at the teachers and our school is open five days a week. Now they’re angry because they don’t want the windows to be open (they say it’s child abuse) for ventilation, they don’t think their child should have to wear a mask, they don’t want there to be distancing, and they want school to stay open even when multiple people test positive for COVID. Parents are angry that there are any safety protocols in place. They can be angry all they want. Teachers aren’t going to give up they safety protocols to placate them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

I love that apparently you requested an accommodation on the basis of parents not being grateful enough to you and you not feeling inspired. It's good that the rest of us aren't as fragile about our jobs.

When you have to return to school, the parents will still be there, even angrier at you for abandoning their kids. What will you do then?

It’s a job. I didn’t abandon anyone. Parents are always telling teachers to quit if they don’t like their jobs (including in this very thread), but if my job offers the option of working remotely then I have every right to do so. 80% of workers are currently working from home in my city. I have no less of a right to be safe during the pandemic than everyone else. I got a medical accommodation, which is my right (according to my employer and in accordance to CEC guidelines about conditions that put individuals at an elevated risk). If parents had been on our team, I might have made a different decision. An example? I had a student come in coughing and lethargic. The nurse said he seemed fine! His mother openly told me later that week that she thought it was COVID and had just that day received negative results. I was lost for words.

It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment or trying to make the best choice for my own family. You would never consider your child’s teacher when making a calculation about your own. As I already said, parents were and still are angry at the teachers and our school is open five days a week. Now they’re angry because they don’t want the windows to be open (they say it’s child abuse) for ventilation, they don’t think their child should have to wear a mask, they don’t want there to be distancing, and they want school to stay open even when multiple people test positive for COVID. Parents are angry that there are any safety protocols in place. They can be angry all they want. Teachers aren’t going to give up they safety protocols to placate them.

That was a pretty quick turnaround for contradicting yourself.

"Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home"
"It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment"

Would also love to hear the source of the 80% number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

I love that apparently you requested an accommodation on the basis of parents not being grateful enough to you and you not feeling inspired. It's good that the rest of us aren't as fragile about our jobs.

When you have to return to school, the parents will still be there, even angrier at you for abandoning their kids. What will you do then?

It’s a job. I didn’t abandon anyone. Parents are always telling teachers to quit if they don’t like their jobs (including in this very thread), but if my job offers the option of working remotely then I have every right to do so. 80% of workers are currently working from home in my city. I have no less of a right to be safe during the pandemic than everyone else. I got a medical accommodation, which is my right (according to my employer and in accordance to CEC guidelines about conditions that put individuals at an elevated risk). If parents had been on our team, I might have made a different decision. An example? I had a student come in coughing and lethargic. The nurse said he seemed fine! His mother openly told me later that week that she thought it was COVID and had just that day received negative results. I was lost for words.

It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment or trying to make the best choice for my own family. You would never consider your child’s teacher when making a calculation about your own. As I already said, parents were and still are angry at the teachers and our school is open five days a week. Now they’re angry because they don’t want the windows to be open (they say it’s child abuse) for ventilation, they don’t think their child should have to wear a mask, they don’t want there to be distancing, and they want school to stay open even when multiple people test positive for COVID. Parents are angry that there are any safety protocols in place. They can be angry all they want. Teachers aren’t going to give up they safety protocols to placate them.

That was a pretty quick turnaround for contradicting yourself.

"Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home"
"It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment"

Would also love to hear the source of the 80% number.

She clearly didn't understand the point. I also don't believe her that parents are calling open windows child abuse, unless maybe she's in Mississippi or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

I love that apparently you requested an accommodation on the basis of parents not being grateful enough to you and you not feeling inspired. It's good that the rest of us aren't as fragile about our jobs.

When you have to return to school, the parents will still be there, even angrier at you for abandoning their kids. What will you do then?

It’s a job. I didn’t abandon anyone. Parents are always telling teachers to quit if they don’t like their jobs (including in this very thread), but if my job offers the option of working remotely then I have every right to do so. 80% of workers are currently working from home in my city. I have no less of a right to be safe during the pandemic than everyone else. I got a medical accommodation, which is my right (according to my employer and in accordance to CEC guidelines about conditions that put individuals at an elevated risk). If parents had been on our team, I might have made a different decision. An example? I had a student come in coughing and lethargic. The nurse said he seemed fine! His mother openly told me later that week that she thought it was COVID and had just that day received negative results. I was lost for words.

It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment or trying to make the best choice for my own family. You would never consider your child’s teacher when making a calculation about your own. As I already said, parents were and still are angry at the teachers and our school is open five days a week. Now they’re angry because they don’t want the windows to be open (they say it’s child abuse) for ventilation, they don’t think their child should have to wear a mask, they don’t want there to be distancing, and they want school to stay open even when multiple people test positive for COVID. Parents are angry that there are any safety protocols in place. They can be angry all they want. Teachers aren’t going to give up they safety protocols to placate them.

That was a pretty quick turnaround for contradicting yourself.

"Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home"
"It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment"

Would also love to hear the source of the 80% number.

She clearly didn't understand the point. I also don't believe her that parents are calling open windows child abuse, unless maybe she's in Mississippi or something.

Holt crap. 80% working from home. Where do you live?? It’s 32-35% of people who are working from home. It’s expected to drop now that cases are low. It’s great some people can still work from home, but it’s not 80%.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/321800/covid-remote-work-update.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

I love that apparently you requested an accommodation on the basis of parents not being grateful enough to you and you not feeling inspired. It's good that the rest of us aren't as fragile about our jobs.

When you have to return to school, the parents will still be there, even angrier at you for abandoning their kids. What will you do then?

It’s a job. I didn’t abandon anyone. Parents are always telling teachers to quit if they don’t like their jobs (including in this very thread), but if my job offers the option of working remotely then I have every right to do so. 80% of workers are currently working from home in my city. I have no less of a right to be safe during the pandemic than everyone else. I got a medical accommodation, which is my right (according to my employer and in accordance to CEC guidelines about conditions that put individuals at an elevated risk). If parents had been on our team, I might have made a different decision. An example? I had a student come in coughing and lethargic. The nurse said he seemed fine! His mother openly told me later that week that she thought it was COVID and had just that day received negative results. I was lost for words.

It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment or trying to make the best choice for my own family. You would never consider your child’s teacher when making a calculation about your own. As I already said, parents were and still are angry at the teachers and our school is open five days a week. Now they’re angry because they don’t want the windows to be open (they say it’s child abuse) for ventilation, they don’t think their child should have to wear a mask, they don’t want there to be distancing, and they want school to stay open even when multiple people test positive for COVID. Parents are angry that there are any safety protocols in place. They can be angry all they want. Teachers aren’t going to give up they safety protocols to placate them.

That was a pretty quick turnaround for contradicting yourself.

"Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home"
"It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment"

Would also love to hear the source of the 80% number.

She clearly didn't understand the point. I also don't believe her that parents are calling open windows child abuse, unless maybe she's in Mississippi or something.

Holt crap. 80% working from home. Where do you live?? It’s 32-35% of people who are working from home. It’s expected to drop now that cases are low. It’s great some people can still work from home, but it’s not 80%.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/321800/covid-remote-work-update.aspx

DP. My neighborhood is 1/2 working class and 1/2 MC. Most of the working class side is back in a physical workplace. Only a few of my MC neighbors are back. One is a fed who works in a lab 2 days a week. The other two are a private school teacher and a chef. Both had Covid already. So we are above 50% WFH.

In my largely MC social circle and huge extended family , we’re upwards of 95% WFH. I can count on one hand people who are back in person and only two stayed in person. My brother in law enforcement. My cousin who stayed in person is a med school resident. But we have a cousin who is still doing telehealth only work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please give link(s) to any evidence of a teacher getting COVID from a student and subsequently dying of COVID in the entire USA.

TIA

OP, Please give a link(s) to any evidence that (any employee) caught COVID from work and it was proven. Can't do it? That's because it's not possible to 100% prove, even medical workers, doctors, cashiers, police, miltary, every day we expose ourselves and no, we can't prove it. This is where common sense comes into play.

Yes. I don’t see anyone angrily claiming that sick doctors “must have been going to indoor dining”. It’s gross, and it’s victim blaming. As a teacher, it is very uninspiring to work in person, putting myself and my family at risk, knowing that parents are quick to turn around and point fingers at us if we do get COVID. Zero gratitude or respect.

Respect is earned. And I don't care if you're "inspired." Most people aren't "inspired" by their jobs. It's a job. They do it. I don't have to be grateful to you for you doing your job, for which you receive adequate remuneration.

Your attitude is exactly the reason I applied for (and received) an accommodation to work from home through the end of June. I went back in the fall in good faith and assumed that parents would be grateful and respectful. I assumed they would abide by our COVID policies. I assumed that people are reasonable and felt some sense of community, and that they would have genuine concern for others who got sick. I was wrong, so I left. It turns out that parents of kids in open schools are just as angry and hateful as though doing full time DL. Good luck with your kids. I have no respect for parents like you. How exactly do you expect other people to “earn” your respect? No one owes you a thing.

I love that apparently you requested an accommodation on the basis of parents not being grateful enough to you and you not feeling inspired. It's good that the rest of us aren't as fragile about our jobs.

When you have to return to school, the parents will still be there, even angrier at you for abandoning their kids. What will you do then?

It’s a job. I didn’t abandon anyone. Parents are always telling teachers to quit if they don’t like their jobs (including in this very thread), but if my job offers the option of working remotely then I have every right to do so. 80% of workers are currently working from home in my city. I have no less of a right to be safe during the pandemic than everyone else. I got a medical accommodation, which is my right (according to my employer and in accordance to CEC guidelines about conditions that put individuals at an elevated risk). If parents had been on our team, I might have made a different decision. An example? I had a student come in coughing and lethargic. The nurse said he seemed fine! His mother openly told me later that week that she thought it was COVID and had just that day received negative results. I was lost for words.

It’s strange that people expect teachers to make personal decisions based off of parents being “angry” at us. I would never consider a parent’s feelings when making a risk assessment or trying to make the best choice for my own family. You would never consider your child’s teacher when making a calculation about your own. As I already said, parents were and still are angry at the teachers and our school is open five days a week. Now they’re angry because they don’t want the windows to be open (they say it’s child abuse) for ventilation, they don’t think their child should have to wear a mask, they don’t want there to be distancing, and they want school to stay open even when multiple people test positive for COVID. Parents are angry that there are any safety protocols in place. They can be angry all they want. Teachers aren’t going to give up they safety protocols to placate them.

I'm so sorry OP. These particular private school parents sound unhinged.