S/O- Affirmative Action- where does it end?

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I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Why is this point made in a college forum?

Dp.

Why not? Does affirmative action not affect people going to college?

Extremely faulty logic, but if you truly believe it I ask you to bring the discussion to the gardening forum, as it affects gardeners also.

I see you have not much to contribute but one liners to deflect and distract. Typical.

[Anonymous]

Must be nice to self-select your ethnicity when it advantages you or your family members. Some of us can't ignore (or scrub away) our ethnicity on a whim.

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I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Why is this point made in a college forum?

Dp.

Why not? Does affirmative action not affect people going to college?

Extremely faulty logic, but if you truly believe it I ask you to bring the discussion to the gardening forum, as it affects gardeners also.

I see you have not much to contribute but one liners to deflect and distract. Typical.

Yes, it is a one-liner, to say "your discussion is irrelevant to the college forum". Yes that is also dismissive. I stand behind it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Must be nice to self-select your ethnicity when it advantages you or your family members. Some of us can't ignore (or scrub away) our ethnicity on a whim.

+1000

[Anonymous]

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I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Why is this point made in a college forum?

It was in response to the PP. did you read their post?

[Anonymous]

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I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Why is this point made in a college forum?

It was in response to the PP. did you read their post?

Yes, I did. It asked about which box to check on a college application, making it relevant in a college forum. How is the comment above relevant to college admissions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Why is this point made in a college forum?

It was in response to the PP. did you read their post?

Yes, I did. It asked about which box to check on a college application, making it relevant in a college forum. How is the comment above relevant to college admissions?

If being willfully ignorant suits your needs because you don't like what you're hearing, that's on you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Why is this point made in a college forum?

It was in response to the PP. did you read their post?

Yes, I did. It asked about which box to check on a college application, making it relevant in a college forum. How is the comment above relevant to college admissions?

If being willfully ignorant suits your needs because you don't like what you're hearing, that's on you.

Just answer the question.

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Anonymous wrote:
I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Why is this point made in a college forum?

It was in response to the PP. did you read their post?

Yes, I did. It asked about which box to check on a college application, making it relevant in a college forum. How is the comment above relevant to college admissions?

If being willfully ignorant suits your needs because you don't like what you're hearing, that's on you.

Just answer the question.

It was answered. You are feigning ignorance and already stated that you are purposely retorting one liners to be dismissive, not here actually engage in any meaningful conversation.

You don't want to hear the other side. You are perfectly content being racist and being a victim at the same time. Move along 'ally'.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - affirmative action is horrible and discriminatory. It should not be a thing.

But this is the system we are dealing with, so your son should check both boxes or check 'two or more races'. (Which is it?)

OP, PP's opinions are horrible and ignorant. Affirmative action should absolutely be a thing.

I have no opinion about what box your child should check, but commend your throughtfullness in asking the question. Have you spoken to your child's guiance counselor or any admissions offices?

Affirmative action should be based on income not race, hence that would be no need to check "boxes". if you are white and poor, brown and poor, yellow and poor, and black and poor, you should benefit from affirmative action. The common denominator should be income not race.

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It's a racist policy. The worst part is the never ending lies, which have caused the sickos to rebrand the policy every few years. They give someone an opportunity because of the color of their skin, and that same opportunity is denied to someone because of their skin color. The policy has nothing to do with opportunity, it's all about genetics. And to make matters worse, when it comes to college admissions, they are discriminating against a group of people that has historically been discriminated against.

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I understand the historical inequities, I understand how systemic racism has affected generations of Black people.

I don't understand why Black people think it's okay for Affirmative Action to discriminate against another much smaller than them minority group based on race who were not their oppressors to right the wrongs they have faced by the hands and laws of White people.

This notion of collateral damage to get mine is racist, discriminatory, unjustified, and belligerent. All the things they seem to stand against, yet have no problem partaking in. Rising up by stepping on others is no different than what White people have done to Black people and other races all over the world.

How would you suggest that we confront the inequalities of past policies that have currently day implications? If other minority groups are facing the same systemic racism in law enforcement, loans, housing, health care issues etc, what’s the hold up from being being allies? If you pretend not to see it because it either reinforces your belief or you benefit from it, how is that right?

It’s a hypocritical thought process. Allies are a two way street.

If you’re okay with racist policies towards certain groups and not others, that is not being an ally. That is asking for support against racism of you while you support and fight for racist policies towards others because it benefits you.

Right - Denounce racist discriminatory policies of affirmative action against Asian Americans period. In addition, call out (totally ignored by media) systematic racism and dismissal towards Asian Americans in sports, politics (don't give me Kamala non-sense), television, movies, music, journalism, judiciary, C-Suites, law firms, consulting, negative portrayal in media - basically in all areas in business, government and entertainment fields.

In addition, comedians openly mock Asians when they cannot for any other groups (including g fat people, disabled people, gay people etc.). Asians lack protection that gays, fat people and other groups in the society enjoy. On top of that, Asian men are constantly portrayed as feminine in TV programs, movies, music and in popular culture leading to negative consequences. You may try to minimize the hardships of Asian Americans and that is precisely the point. Asians would be treated just like blacks by law enforcement if Asians become belligerent and confrontational with law enforcement officers. Asians KNOW they lack the requisite politicians and receptive media people who will jump at these incidents for blacks. Asians who suffer death, injuries and worse as a result of hate crimes DO NOT even get reported or hardly ever get reported in the media : https://news.uchicago.edu/story/uchicago-mourns-loss-phd-student-yiran-fan

People spout oh there is no hardship for Asian Americans - only because Asians are deemed not worthy of even being a part of a discussion or even having a "seat" at the table in every possible ways. Most Asians would love to trade places with Blacks in US.

[Anonymous]

Most Asian Americans would trade places with Black people??

Why do white folks think they can speak for all Asian people??? This is the most insane thing I've read in a long time.

I'm Black, noone wants to trade places. You're insane.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Why is this point made in a college forum?

It was in response to the PP. did you read their post?

Yes, I did. It asked about which box to check on a college application, making it relevant in a college forum. How is the comment above relevant to college admissions?

If being willfully ignorant suits your needs because you don't like what you're hearing, that's on you.

Just answer the question.

It was answered. You are feigning ignorance and already stated that you are purposely retorting one liners to be dismissive, not here actually engage in any meaningful conversation.

You don't want to hear the other side. You are perfectly content being racist and being a victim at the same time. Move along 'ally'.

You may be confusing me with other posters. I am saying nothing which could be even remotely construed as racist. I am asking why that comment is relevant in a college forum. You have not answered, because you know it is not relevant.

That’s all.

[Anonymous]

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I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Why is this point made in a college forum?

It was in response to the PP. did you read their post?

Yes, I did. It asked about which box to check on a college application, making it relevant in a college forum. How is the comment above relevant to college admissions?

If being willfully ignorant suits your needs because you don't like what you're hearing, that's on you.

Just answer the question.

It was answered. You are feigning ignorance and already stated that you are purposely retorting one liners to be dismissive, not here actually engage in any meaningful conversation.

You don't want to hear the other side. You are perfectly content being racist and being a victim at the same time. Move along 'ally'.

You may be confusing me with other posters. I am saying nothing which could be even remotely construed as racist. I am asking why that comment is relevant in a college forum. You have not answered, because you know it is not relevant.

That’s all.

NP but which comment are you talking about- this one?

I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most Asian Americans would trade places with Black people??

Why do white folks think they can speak for all Asian people??? This is the most insane thing I've read in a long time.

I'm Black, noone wants to trade places. You're insane.

Your automatic assumption that the PP was posted by "white folks" as opposed to by "Asian American" shows exactly the point I was making - Asians are invisible, dismissed, ignored, deemed not worthy of even a moment of attention. How can we try to improve the issues facing Asian Americans if the media ignores them and won't bother to cover them, politicians are too busy pandering to blacks only and your average Americans do the exact same thing.

Of course many Asians would trade places with Blacks; at least hard work/study will definitely pay off (college, graduate/professional schools' admission, employment preferences INSTEAD of discrimination against Asians) and any discriminations and hate crimes WILL garner attention of media/politicians. Oh and I am Asian American not white folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Why is this point made in a college forum?

It was in response to the PP. did you read their post?

Yes, I did. It asked about which box to check on a college application, making it relevant in a college forum. How is the comment above relevant to college admissions?

If being willfully ignorant suits your needs because you don't like what you're hearing, that's on you.

Just answer the question.

It was answered. You are feigning ignorance and already stated that you are purposely retorting one liners to be dismissive, not here actually engage in any meaningful conversation.

You don't want to hear the other side. You are perfectly content being racist and being a victim at the same time. Move along 'ally'.

You may be confusing me with other posters. I am saying nothing which could be even remotely construed as racist. I am asking why that comment is relevant in a college forum. You have not answered, because you know it is not relevant.

That’s all.

NP but which comment are you talking about- this one?

I agree with everything said except you don’t take away privileges from AA to even the score, you extend the privilege to Asian Americans.

Yes.