1/4 of US Women may quit their jobs

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Anonymous wrote:That's ok. We can outsource these jobs abroad.

Lol exactly. Soon enough, bc WFH and zoom have become normalized, many people’s jobs will be outsourced anyway..and then automation will cause more job losses. Many of you scolds lecturing others for enabling men, betraying women everywhere, etc. will be out of a job whether you like it or not. Stop blaming other women and recognize that there are bigger things going on in the world that are shaping our lives.

Wages have dramatically increased overseas. Automation may very well decrease employment, but I’m not worried about outsourcing.

You should be. Wages have risen elsewhere but they’re still tiny compared to here.

[Anonymous]

If you lose your quit your job then you have no judgement from me...but may you rot in hell if you pick Trump again!

College educated White women - don't be complicit again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a SAHM, these articles about women quitting all seem pretty obvious to me. Yes, a few of you managed to marry a fully “woke” equal partner who will do 50% or more of the “mental load” in addition to housework and child rearing, but I learned pretty quickly I did not marry such a man.

And I’ll be damned if I’m going to carry the whole mental load, run the house, care for the kids AND work a full time job. I’m not a martyr.

How many kids do you have? You sound like me but I only have one kid in elementary with adhd. I went part time and still struggling. I will not get a similar job ever if I quit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ivanka has a job. And she has kids. And she has no qualifications. And she pays no taxes.

Why aren't more women like her?

Too funny

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's ok. We can outsource these jobs abroad.

Most of them, we have. Thanks to crappy Clinton and NAFTA.

[Anonymous]

DH and I have always worked 4 days a week. He is off on Wednesdays and I am off on Fridays. We work a longer day to "make up" the hours. Our daughter has a great deal of time spent between the 2 of us. Oh--- and one kid is enough! Parenting is fun, not a burden with one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand a single mom.

But no married woman should quit her job. I am married and will NOT be quitting. There is NO reason that woman should need to quit their jobs while men do not! Just say no, ladies. Is your husband going to quit his job to do housework and distance learning? Of course not. Women have to stop voluntarily sacrificing their careers and financial well-being when men do not.

As someone who earns a similar salary to my husband, I understand this reasoning. No way am I tanking my career when my husband would never even dream of quitting his.

But for a variety of reasons, a lot of mothers have the lower wage/more flexible/sometimes part time job of the two working spouses. I can totally understand why someone in this position would quit. There are already lots of hurdles to being a dual income household and for many families it makes sense for the lower earning spouse to take over some duties that were historically outsourced.

If we value mothers remaining in the workforce, then we need a better support system for working parents. This is a societal issue.

[Anonymous]

Just having a kid impacted my career in a way that makes me the one best positioned to step back from work in this situation. I got mommy-tracked when I was pregnant ("we have to take this off your hands since you won't be here for closing"), struggled to catch up when I came back from maternity leave, and wound up transferring to a more flexible position with minimal travel before my kid turned one because I was so miserable and stressed (and dealing with PPD) that I had to scale back somewhere.

So yes, my career is the easiest to hit pause on now, because it already took a huge hit in both trajectory and pay several years ago. This isn't me "stepping back". This is an economic system that just ignores pregnancy, childbirth, and parenthood as valuable acts, and the people who perform the get screwed. The end.

Stop blaming women for not conquering institutionalized sexism all by themselves with individual choices that are often dictated by forces beyond our control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just having a kid impacted my career in a way that makes me the one best positioned to step back from work in this situation. I got mommy-tracked when I was pregnant ("we have to take this off your hands since you won't be here for closing"), struggled to catch up when I came back from maternity leave, and wound up transferring to a more flexible position with minimal travel before my kid turned one because I was so miserable and stressed (and dealing with PPD) that I had to scale back somewhere.

So yes, my career is the easiest to hit pause on now, because it already took a huge hit in both trajectory and pay several years ago. This isn't me "stepping back". This is an economic system that just ignores pregnancy, childbirth, and parenthood as valuable acts, and the people who perform the get screwed. The end.

Stop blaming women for not conquering institutionalized sexism all by themselves with individual choices that are often dictated by forces beyond our control.

Well said!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a SAHM, these articles about women quitting all seem pretty obvious to me. Yes, a few of you managed to marry a fully “woke” equal partner who will do 50% or more of the “mental load” in addition to housework and child rearing, but I learned pretty quickly I did not marry such a man.

And I’ll be damned if I’m going to carry the whole mental load, run the house, care for the kids AND work a full time job. I’m not a martyr.

Of my 20 closest friends, all but one are married to men who do 50%. That one is a SAHM and the rest of us work. It's not just "a few" women who "managed" to marry "woke" men. You married a child, that was your choice.

Ding ding ding! My ratio is not quite as good as yours, but I have plenty of friends and family where both spouses pitch in roughly equally. It’s the men-children who are the outliers, and should be eliminated in the next generation.

Same. Look, if you quit your job when you have a young baby then you’re going to be automatically assuming ALL of the childcare and household responsibilities. It’s hard to later pass those on to your spouse. Every woman I know with a man who doesn’t do his share is a SAHM and it’s likely because she dropped out of the workforce early on.

The reason women drop out early is because of lack of childcare options and maternity leave. It's not an individual failing that they get little society support at a time when their children have high needs.

Read the first post in this chain to see what started it all. That PP said she married a man child and so did everyone else except for two of us. I refuted that statement and multiple others followed. You're making a different point, which can also be addressed, but you're bringing up a different topic and then being upset that everyone above you hasn't addressed your issue yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just having a kid impacted my career in a way that makes me the one best positioned to step back from work in this situation. I got mommy-tracked when I was pregnant ("we have to take this off your hands since you won't be here for closing"), struggled to catch up when I came back from maternity leave, and wound up transferring to a more flexible position with minimal travel before my kid turned one because I was so miserable and stressed (and dealing with PPD) that I had to scale back somewhere.

So yes, my career is the easiest to hit pause on now, because it already took a huge hit in both trajectory and pay several years ago. This isn't me "stepping back". This is an economic system that just ignores pregnancy, childbirth, and parenthood as valuable acts, and the people who perform the get screwed. The end.

Stop blaming women for not conquering institutionalized sexism all by themselves with individual choices that are often dictated by forces beyond our control.

Why were you miserable and stressed? I am a lawyer and my husband and I have flip flopped between who makes more. After our twins were born and I went back to work after maternity leave, HE stepped up to ensure that I had an easier time returning from work. I basically had to focus on myself and spend time with my kids and he handled the other issues like childcare, groceries, cooking, etc.

You say that our current economic system ignores parenthood and the people who perform that task get screwed, but what you really mean is WOMEN. Yes, men can't be pregnant, and they can't give birth, but beyond that, take some ownership of your own choices and those of your husband. My husband doesn't have an easy job or one that doesn't require travel, but he MADE it happen after we had kids, because it shouldn't be all on me.

I know it's easier to yell at someone who sounds like they're criticizing your life choices, so ok. But maybe spend some time really reflecting about what exactly happened in your situation and how your husband could have been the one to make changes in his career to help our so that you weren't so miserable or stressed. Also, I'm not saying there aren't issues in our society, because there are, but I just find it a little cringe-inducing when people refuse to acknowledge any responsibility whatsoever for their own actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand a single mom.

But no married woman should quit her job. I am married and will NOT be quitting. There is NO reason that woman should need to quit their jobs while men do not! Just say no, ladies. Is your husband going to quit his job to do housework and distance learning? Of course not. Women have to stop voluntarily sacrificing their careers and financial well-being when men do not.

Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. If a single mom quits her job who pays the bills?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just having a kid impacted my career in a way that makes me the one best positioned to step back from work in this situation. I got mommy-tracked when I was pregnant ("we have to take this off your hands since you won't be here for closing"), struggled to catch up when I came back from maternity leave, and wound up transferring to a more flexible position with minimal travel before my kid turned one because I was so miserable and stressed (and dealing with PPD) that I had to scale back somewhere.

So yes, my career is the easiest to hit pause on now, because it already took a huge hit in both trajectory and pay several years ago. This isn't me "stepping back". This is an economic system that just ignores pregnancy, childbirth, and parenthood as valuable acts, and the people who perform the get screwed. The end.

Stop blaming women for not conquering institutionalized sexism all by themselves with individual choices that are often dictated by forces beyond our control.

Well said!

Sad that this is the state of women in the workplace in USA. No other developed country in the world is so anti-women and anti-family. But then we also have tRUMP as President. So I guess everything bad that happens to this country, it is its Karma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just having a kid impacted my career in a way that makes me the one best positioned to step back from work in this situation. I got mommy-tracked when I was pregnant ("we have to take this off your hands since you won't be here for closing"), struggled to catch up when I came back from maternity leave, and wound up transferring to a more flexible position with minimal travel before my kid turned one because I was so miserable and stressed (and dealing with PPD) that I had to scale back somewhere.

So yes, my career is the easiest to hit pause on now, because it already took a huge hit in both trajectory and pay several years ago. This isn't me "stepping back". This is an economic system that just ignores pregnancy, childbirth, and parenthood as valuable acts, and the people who perform the get screwed. The end.

Stop blaming women for not conquering institutionalized sexism all by themselves with individual choices that are often dictated by forces beyond our control.

Why were you miserable and stressed? I am a lawyer and my husband and I have flip flopped between who makes more. After our twins were born and I went back to work after maternity leave, HE stepped up to ensure that I had an easier time returning from work. I basically had to focus on myself and spend time with my kids and he handled the other issues like childcare, groceries, cooking, etc.

You say that our current economic system ignores parenthood and the people who perform that task get screwed, but what you really mean is WOMEN. Yes, men can't be pregnant, and they can't give birth, but beyond that, take some ownership of your own choices and those of your husband. My husband doesn't have an easy job or one that doesn't require travel, but he MADE it happen after we had kids, because it shouldn't be all on me.

I know it's easier to yell at someone who sounds like they're criticizing your life choices, so ok. But maybe spend some time really reflecting about what exactly happened in your situation and how your husband could have been the one to make changes in his career to help our so that you weren't so miserable or stressed. Also, I'm not saying there aren't issues in our society, because there are, but I just find it a little cringe-inducing when people refuse to acknowledge any responsibility whatsoever for their own actions.

Smug. Privileged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a SAHM, these articles about women quitting all seem pretty obvious to me. Yes, a few of you managed to marry a fully “woke” equal partner who will do 50% or more of the “mental load” in addition to housework and child rearing, but I learned pretty quickly I did not marry such a man.

And I’ll be damned if I’m going to carry the whole mental load, run the house, care for the kids AND work a full time job. I’m not a martyr.

So don’t do the mental load and housework. Just say no.

Prioritize yourself and your career. You deserve it the same as a privileged man does. Again no one is forcing you to do housework. You basically allowed your husband to force you to quit working and when your kids are older you’ll deeply regret it.

Please. You have no crystal ball.