Missing Muslim teen found dead in Fairfax County - suspect arrested

[Anonymous]

I'm confused as to what happened after the other teams ran away? How soon were the police called?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused as to what happened after the other teams ran away? How soon were the police called?

They ran back to the center, counted heads, realized she was missing, and called the police. It happened pretty quickly, it seemed.

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ICE has filed a detainer on the illegal. I hope they honor it and this child murder never sees daylight again.

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only person that considers the possibility he was drunk? Wouldn't count out an anti-Muslim bias, but would go some ways to explaining the extraordinary escalation of confronting a fairly large group of teenagers and then kidnapping/beating/killing one of them.

Yeah. Drunk, high - something caused an explosive reaction in him.

- or a prejudiced/ Islamophobic reaction.

I've never heard of the "Islamaphobic" reaction you're talking about. See a girl in a hijab or abaya and kill her?

This sounds more like random violence than anything else, but as more details come out. we'll know more.

??? What about the guy yelling at two Muslim girls and then murdering two men who try to intervene. I think that's pretty Islamaphobic. I'm not sure this case is a hate crime, but to say you've never heard of that kind of Islamaphobic reaction sounds very disingenuous.

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Anonymous wrote:They say there was some sort of dispute between the driver of the car and the group of kids walking. The driver got out swinging a baseball bat and maybe knocked her down or she fell trying to get away.

It seems like a random attack, yet, the assailant abducted her. That seems unusual and particularly scary. I'm glad that they have the one suspect in custody and I hope that if there are any more suspects that they are apprehended ASAP.

My speculation based on watching/reading too many mystery and crime stories:

It's not a good idea to walk on that stretch of road to begin with but a group of teenage girls and very little to no cars, and the group was spilling into the street thinking their was no need to be as cautious as daytime.

Driver comes up quickly and the girls have to quickly move out of the way and they start shouting after the driver, maybe waving phones like they will take pics or call police.

Driver stops and confrontation ensues and driver might be drunk/tipsy and/or angry likely over something not related at all to these girls. They just fuel his anger. Maybe this girl threatens to call police and the driver gets scared. He wants to intimidate the girls and uses the baseball bat but accidentally hits the girl. The other girls have run off so he doesn't think they saw what happened. He picks her up and has the intention of getting help but maybe she dies in the car and he panics and then he leaves in her at the location she is found.

Next day he still feels guilty, thinks maybe he is wrong that she was dead and tries to go back and find her except police are there and notice him lurking around and stop to question him and then arrest him.

You're basically trying to make the killer look sympathetic. Sorry, I don't care what was said, anyone who gets out of their car swinging a metal baseball bat at people deserves no sympathy. Maybe have some sympathy for the family and stop speculating and justifying the death of their child.

Where did I make the killer out to be sympathetic? What action did he take that was sympathetic?

None of his actions were sympathetic, but your attempts to account for what happened most certainly tried to not paint him as the cold blooded killer that he is (e.g. the driver gets scared...he accidentally hits her...he has the intention of getting help...he feels guilty...). You know none of these things.

Yep and I said that I knew none of these things as I wrote I was speculating.

The police have already state it was not a hate crime so his motivation was not that she was Muslim which is what you seem to have wanted.

Often times the sad truth is that killers ended up being killers and victims end up being victims by happenstance rather than any kind of outright planning or being targeted. And that's what I think happened here. And in those cases, I do think the killers can feel scared, feel remorse and still be killers. Having those emotions doesn't negate their actions and I never suggested it did. You did that.

I actually don't think it was a hate crime, and, no, that's not what I want it to turn out to be. I think he's a despicable low life with no moral compass, and I would have preferred if he had not killed her at all. I have no agenda about wanting it to be a hate crime because our country is already divided enough along racial/religious lines. You seem sympathetic toward this killer for whatever reason, so go ahead and feel like he hit her by accident and was remorseful, but I doubt very much that's the case. The things you listed are what defense attorneys argue are mitigating circumstances when they are seeking to get reduced sentences for heinous crimes committed by despicable people. How many good people do you know who would start swinging a metal baseball bat in the first place at teenagers because of something they said?

[Anonymous]

There is a lot of confusing information on this.

The first report said she got into a verbal altercation with the guy (I think I read that before she was found.)
Then, I read somewhere that she tripped and fell when the others were running away.
Also, read that the group was walking--and then read that some of the kids were on bikes.
So, the information has been a little inconsistent.

What I do not question is that the guy murdered her. You don't start off walking by the road and end up in a pond.
Why he murdered her--rage. Road rage or rage from hate. Either way, it is just awful.

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Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of confusing information on this.

The first report said she got into a verbal altercation with the guy (I think I read that before she was found.)
Then, I read somewhere that she tripped and fell when the others were running away.
Also, read that the group was walking--and then read that some of the kids were on bikes.
So, the information has been a little inconsistent.

What I do not question is that the guy murdered her. You don't start off walking by the road and end up in a pond.
Why he murdered her--rage. Road rage or rage from hate. Either way, it is just awful.

I think that there was at least one guy in the group who was on a bike traveling by the side of the road. Most of the kids were on foot including the victim. The assailant got angry at the guy on the bike and at some point got out of the car and began chasing the group of kids with a baseball bat. He swung and hit her, knocking her down. The rest of the kids were all fleeing this guy. They didn't realize that their friend was missing until they got back to church. Once they realized that she was missing the cops were called.

Very scary.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of seeing the "why were they out at that hour of the night/morning?" posts (here and on social media).

Being out after dark is NOT a crime. Not even if you are under 18. Not even if you are under 18 AND have a vagina!

Attacking someone IS a crime. Killing someone IS a crime.

Focus on the actual crimes committed!

I can't believe it's 2017 and we're still victim shaming. Or that people don't understand/realize when they say things like, "why was she out so late" it IS victim shaming.

"I would never let my daughter walk at that time of night." That's great for you, but that still doesn't make what she, her friends, or their parents did wrong.

Such a tragedy.

I live about 10 minutes from that area. The area is simply not safe at that time of night. Used to be, but not anymore, since illegals flooded the area. Gangs, drug deals, etc. It's not their fault at all. It's also not safe.

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Is he?

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.