Missing Muslim teen found dead in Fairfax County - suspect arrested

[Anonymous]

The only information you have is that he's Hispanic. So naturally you assume MS-13. BIGOT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

He doesn't appear to be a gang member, he was apparently headed home after a family outing at a park. He has a 4 year old son. So tragic and also strange.
Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

He doesn't appear to be a gang member, he was apparently headed home after a family outing at a park. He has a 4 year old son. So tragic and also strange.
Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

Didn't this occur in the middle of the night? He was headed home from a family outing in the middle of the night?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

- because the ONLY reason to suspect him as a criminal gang member is his Latin last name. That's racist!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

He doesn't appear to be a gang member, he was apparently headed home after a family outing at a park. He has a 4 year old son. So tragic and also strange.
Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

Didn't this occur in the middle of the night? He was headed home from a family outing in the middle of the night?

Yes... it happened between 2:00 am and 3:00. This was in the WaPo:

An aunt who was at the court but declined to give her name said Martinez Torres’s family is shocked and mystified about the charges against him.

The aunt said Martinez Torres was at a Sterling park with her mother hours before the incident. She said Martinez Torres left the park at about 11:30 p.m. Saturday to head home.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/killing-of-muslim-teenager-not-being-investigated-as-a-hate-crime-police-say/2017/06/19/e7670f0a-54f0-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?utm_term=.80a6ed18e284

So, there was at least 2 hours that passed before he encountered the teens. IF, and I mean IF, what the aunt says is true.
He may be a gang member, he might not be. Having a child does not mean he is not a gang member.
I suspect any gang affiliation will come out eventually.
It doesn’t really matter. He is a piece of scum and hopefully will never ever be a free person again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

- because the ONLY reason to suspect him as a criminal gang member is his Latin last name. That's racist!

Because he killed a girl. You seem to be discounting that. And also the location.

Whether he is a gang member or not, or merely a loving father who is now a murderer, is something that we will find out in time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

He doesn't appear to be a gang member, he was apparently headed home after a family outing at a park. He has a 4 year old son. So tragic and also strange.
Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

Didn't this occur in the middle of the night? He was headed home from a family outing in the middle of the night?

Yes... it happened between 2:00 am and 3:00. This was in the WaPo:

An aunt who was at the court but declined to give her name said Martinez Torres’s family is shocked and mystified about the charges against him.

The aunt said Martinez Torres was at a Sterling park with her mother hours before the incident. She said Martinez Torres left the park at about 11:30 p.m. Saturday to head home.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/killing-of-muslim-teenager-not-being-investigated-as-a-hate-crime-police-say/2017/06/19/e7670f0a-54f0-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?utm_term=.80a6ed18e284

So, there was at least 2 hours that passed before he encountered the teens. IF, and I mean IF, what the aunt says is true.
He may be a gang member, he might not be. Having a child does not mean he is not a gang member.
I suspect any gang affiliation will come out eventually.
It doesn’t really matter. He is a piece of scum and hopefully will never ever be a free person again.

The fact he took her to a different location, then assaulted her again? I'm thinking he took her to sexually assault her then killed her to cover the crime. I think he also thought these Muslim kids were fair game. There was no reason for him to pull his car over and pull his car up on the curb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

- because the ONLY reason to suspect him as a criminal gang member is his Latin last name. That's racist!

Again, I live in Great Falls near that area. I am not the PP but I suspect he's MS-13 because ... wait for it .... MS-13 and illegals haunt that very area. Both FFX Cty and Loudoun Cty are sanctuaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

Maybe not bigotry but ignorance. Most crimes are committed by people that are NOT gang members. But you only think about gang members when you hear about crime and you only think Hispanic. So wait, okay, yes that is bigotry.

or were you thinking Asian gang member?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

- because the ONLY reason to suspect him as a criminal gang member is his Latin last name. That's racist!

NP but I suspected MS-13 too. I know the location. Plus, who is out at 3am? And who has a baseball bat in their car and the willingness to use it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

- because the ONLY reason to suspect him as a criminal gang member is his Latin last name. That's racist!

NP but I suspected MS-13 too. I know the location. Plus, who is out at 3am? And who has a baseball bat in their car and the willingness to use it?

All males. It happens all the time, the one in Howard County was white and the one in PG county was black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

- because the ONLY reason to suspect him as a criminal gang member is his Latin last name. That's racist!

NP but I suspected MS-13 too. I know the location. Plus, who is out at 3am? And who has a baseball bat in their car and the willingness to use it?

Whole bunch of bigots on here.

If his last name was Smith would you automatically think alt-right nut job? First name was Mohammed? Probably a terrorist, right? BIGOT.

The girls had a good reason to be out at that time. You only assume he was up to no good at 3am because he's Hispanic? BIGOT.

Regardless of his actual affiliation, you jumping to conclusions purely based on his name and location makes you a bigot. BIGOT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turns out he was an Illegal... we have really put ourselves in a bad place regarding illegal immigration.

No person is illegal! He is a DREAMER

Sad thing is that when an illegal hispanic does something wrong people assume every hispanic is a recent illegal arrival and that they are from mexico honduras or el salvador which is not always true.

It was true in this case...

I commented on page 1 or 2 of this thread that I suspected the guy is in MS-13.

Bigot.

Eg. PP's not the only one who wondered about MS-13.

I'm not sure I understand why it's bigotry to speculate that a horrific crime may have been committed by a gang-member rather than a non-gang-member.

- because the ONLY reason to suspect him as a criminal gang member is his Latin last name. That's racist!

NP but I suspected MS-13 too. I know the location. Plus, who is out at 3am? And who has a baseball bat in their car and the willingness to use it?

All males. It happens all the time, the one in Howard County was white and the one in PG county was black.

Right. You're saying that location is important. That's what we're saying too.

[Anonymous]

Sterling Park is a mess recently. Lots of MS-13 activity. The buildings there have MS-13 tags.

There's also been a lot of anger and fights recently over the parking and traffic surrounding the ADAMS center. I wonder if that contributed at all? Apparently people have been walking miles to find parking near their homes since there's not enough parking at ADAMS. There have been many calls for them to have more police directing traffic there as well.