Someone lied about a position DS had - she got in, DS didn't. Appropriate to tell school?

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, OP again. Another update - the school is informed but my son has no idea if they will end up contacting the colleges.

Several more people have approached my son with proof other lies or stolen positions on her resume. He is going to update administration about these tomorrow. It's beginning to look doubtful that any of it is truthful.

All of the colleges involved are highly selective and one (Stanford) was recently in trouble for a cheating scandal. I really hope they do not ignore this information.

At the small private school my DC attends, the college advisors know the seniors very well. The advisors review the background information prepared for the common app, as well as the personal essays at least once. That review process would certainly identify discrepancies like saying you were the Class President, when actually you were the Class Secretary; or saying that you were the school newspaper's EIC, when you were actually a Section Editor.

I suppose that a student could change their submissions after review, and the college advisor would never know. And perhaps the counselors cannot catch those exaggerations or lies related to extracurricular, outside-of-school activities.

It sounds like the OP's son and several his classmates are currently focused on bringing the young woman to justice. I would advise all of the students to take a step back (and certainly to avoid a vigilante, take-it-into-our-own-hands-style justice) as they still do not know what the young woman in question did or did not represent to those universities on her applications.

The best course of action remains to take all of the collected information to an advisor, teacher, or administrator at the school, and have them handle the issue -- they are, after all, professionals well-experienced in dealing with students, universities, and potentially dynamic and volatile situations.

(I think it would make for an interesting social science experiment for some senior to create a fictitious resume, and post it after the admissions decisions come out. Then see what, if anything, happens. A current "punk'd" for the highly competitive, highly stressed high school set.)

OP said in a previous post that that is what he's doing. The kid isn't approaching the schools she was admitted to, he's collecting information and turning it into high school administrators to deal with.

This is far from vigilante justice and should be applauded as the most correct course of action.

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Anonymous wrote:Okay I was not expecting so much vitriol. I was just asking...I never thought someone would lie.

Yep, pretty heated response.

This area is chocked full of con artists, liars, puffers galore. Your son is seeing why, because often enough it works.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, OP again. Another update - the school is informed but my son has no idea if they will end up contacting the colleges.

Several more people have approached my son with proof other lies or stolen positions on her resume. He is going to update administration about these tomorrow. It's beginning to look doubtful that any of it is truthful.

All of the colleges involved are highly selective and one (Stanford) was recently in trouble for a cheating scandal. I really hope they do not ignore this information.

Also, OP, please do not involve the DCUM community any further in this personal drama. All the talk of multiple students now aiding your son in an effort to dig up every untruth or exaggeration this young woman has ever posted, suggests that many classmates now know about the issue (but who told them?), are discussing and researching her social media background, and are determined to bring her down ("I really hope they do not ignore this information."). It sounds inevitable that someone will now leak the information to some of the universities this young woman was admitted to, and certainly to Stanford.

This type of vigilantism and public lynching of a seventeen- or eighteen-year old, at the hands of other seventeen- or eighteen-year olds really makes me nervous. Who doesn't commit terrible mistakes of judgment at that age? In the coming years, some of these young adults will commit similarly short-sighted, immature, completely "what-were-you-thinking?" errors in judgment -- like driving after they have had several drinks, or sleeping with a fellow student when both were too intoxicated, or being caught by the police with marijuana in their possession, or texting nude selfies to a friend, or sending an email to a intern-coworker using obscene language to poke fun of the senior boss, or drinking too much at a school function and making a complete a&@ of themselves in front of their professor. When that happens, I would hope that they are shown some compassion and forgiveness for their bad judgment.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi, OP again. Another update - the school is informed but my son has no idea if they will end up contacting the colleges.

Several more people have approached my son with proof other lies or stolen positions on her resume. He is going to update administration about these tomorrow. It's beginning to look doubtful that any of it is truthful.

All of the colleges involved are highly selective and one (Stanford) was recently in trouble for a cheating scandal. I really hope they do not ignore this information.

At the small private school my DC attends, the college advisors know the seniors very well. The advisors review the background information prepared for the common app, as well as the personal essays at least once. That review process would certainly identify discrepancies like saying you were the Class President, when actually you were the Class Secretary; or saying that you were the school newspaper's EIC, when you were actually a Section Editor.

I suppose that a student could change their submissions after review, and the college advisor would never know. And perhaps the counselors cannot catch those exaggerations or lies related to extracurricular, outside-of-school activities.

It sounds like the OP's son and several his classmates are currently focused on bringing the young woman to justice. I would advise all of the students to take a step back (and certainly to avoid a vigilante, take-it-into-our-own-hands-style justice) as they still do not know what the young woman in question did or did not represent to those universities on her applications.

The best course of action remains to take all of the collected information to an advisor, teacher, or administrator at the school, and have them handle the issue -- they are, after all, professionals well-experienced in dealing with students, universities, and potentially dynamic and volatile situations.

(I think it would make for an interesting social science experiment for some senior to create a fictitious resume, and post it after the admissions decisions come out. Then see what, if anything, happens. A current "punk'd" for the highly competitive, highly stressed high school set.)

OP said in a previous post that that is what he's doing. The kid isn't approaching the schools she was admitted to, he's collecting information and turning it into high school administrators to deal with.

This is far from vigilante justice and should be applauded as the most correct course of action.

I agree with you, the current course of action is the proper one. I am just pointing out that the fellow students potentially cross the line into vigilante, judge-jury-and-executioner-type justice if they decide to contact the universities to which the young woman was admitted directly, without knowing what -- if any -- false representations she may have made on those college applications.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi, OP again. Another update - the school is informed but my son has no idea if they will end up contacting the colleges.

Several more people have approached my son with proof other lies or stolen positions on her resume. He is going to update administration about these tomorrow. It's beginning to look doubtful that any of it is truthful.

All of the colleges involved are highly selective and one (Stanford) was recently in trouble for a cheating scandal. I really hope they do not ignore this information.

At the small private school my DC attends, the college advisors know the seniors very well. The advisors review the background information prepared for the common app, as well as the personal essays at least once. That review process would certainly identify discrepancies like saying you were the Class President, when actually you were the Class Secretary; or saying that you were the school newspaper's EIC, when you were actually a Section Editor.

I suppose that a student could change their submissions after review, and the college advisor would never know. And perhaps the counselors cannot catch those exaggerations or lies related to extracurricular, outside-of-school activities.

It sounds like the OP's son and several his classmates are currently focused on bringing the young woman to justice. I would advise all of the students to take a step back (and certainly to avoid a vigilante, take-it-into-our-own-hands-style justice) as they still do not know what the young woman in question did or did not represent to those universities on her applications.

The best course of action remains to take all of the collected information to an advisor, teacher, or administrator at the school, and have them handle the issue -- they are, after all, professionals well-experienced in dealing with students, universities, and potentially dynamic and volatile situations.

(I think it would make for an interesting social science experiment for some senior to create a fictitious resume, and post it after the admissions decisions come out. Then see what, if anything, happens. A current "punk'd" for the highly competitive, highly stressed high school set.)

OP said in a previous post that that is what he's doing. The kid isn't approaching the schools she was admitted to, he's collecting information and turning it into high school administrators to deal with.

This is far from vigilante justice and should be applauded as the most correct course of action.

I agree with you, the current course of action is the proper one. I am just pointing out that the fellow students potentially cross the line into vigilante, judge-jury-and-executioner-type justice if they decide to contact the universities to which the young woman was admitted directly, without knowing what -- if any -- false representations she may have made on those college applications.

Why is it even a big deal if the kids decide to pretend to be batman and contact the colleges directly? The university would verify the school and the application and decide what to do accordingly. If she didn't do anything wrong nothing will happen to her.

OP, tell your son to contact the schools. At best, a lying brat will get her comeuppance (and getting rescinded from Stanford is hardly the end of the world, it's exactly what she deserves). At worst, nothing will happen.

[Anonymous]

All I remember is that Matthew Broderick ended up with a black eye in Election, while Tracy Flick went on to the school of her dreams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi, OP again. Another update - the school is informed but my son has no idea if they will end up contacting the colleges.

Several more people have approached my son with proof other lies or stolen positions on her resume. He is going to update administration about these tomorrow. It's beginning to look doubtful that any of it is truthful.

All of the colleges involved are highly selective and one (Stanford) was recently in trouble for a cheating scandal. I really hope they do not ignore this information.

Good job. From the responses here, I'm beginning to wonder where morality has gone

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Anonymous wrote:All I remember is that Matthew Broderick ended up with a black eye in Election, while Tracy Flick went on to the school of her dreams.

matthew Broderick lied so that she would lose the election. He was jealous of her. Not the same thing as this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, OP again. Another update - the school is informed but my son has no idea if they will end up contacting the colleges.

Several more people have approached my son with proof other lies or stolen positions on her resume. He is going to update administration about these tomorrow. It's beginning to look doubtful that any of it is truthful.

All of the colleges involved are highly selective and one (Stanford) was recently in trouble for a cheating scandal. I really hope they do not ignore this information.

He shouldn't be going to the administration about things that other people are saying about her, they might be making assumptions and repeating gossip. Sorry, but I don't think he should have reported her to the high school. He doesn't know what she submitted to the colleges on her applications.

[Anonymous]

The comments on this topic are ridiculous!

[Anonymous]

I actually think this might be a troll thread, don't ask me why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi, OP again. Another update - the school is informed but my son has no idea if they will end up contacting the colleges.

Several more people have approached my son with proof other lies or stolen positions on her resume. He is going to update administration about these tomorrow. It's beginning to look doubtful that any of it is truthful.

All of the colleges involved are highly selective and one (Stanford) was recently in trouble for a cheating scandal. I really hope they do not ignore this information.

I would recommend that he pause - and before he updates the administration reflect on why he is doing that.

It is one thing when someone claims his position.

For the other stuff that has been informed about - his peers can be the voice to highlight them to the administration. If he brings them to the administration, he is looking pettty and vengeful.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm beginning to feel very good about my political positions, after reading this thread.

And I'm also beginning to see just why this country is in the state its in.

Scary how many people shrug their shoulders at an obvious lack of morals.

Seeing that someone lied on their Facebook page =/= knowing what a person included in their college application. I think that's why people are telling OP to MTOB.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, OP again. Another update - the school is informed but my son has no idea if they will end up contacting the colleges.

Several more people have approached my son with proof other lies or stolen positions on her resume. He is going to update administration about these tomorrow. It's beginning to look doubtful that any of it is truthful.

All of the colleges involved are highly selective and one (Stanford) was recently in trouble for a cheating scandal. I really hope they do not ignore this information.

After reading this post I'm becoming concerned about this girl. It sounds like a lot of people really have it in for her.

Hope she gets out of DC, fast.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think this might be a troll thread, don't ask me why.

The more I consider this entire thread, the more I am certain that this is a troll thread. And here is why.

If this had actually happened, then the mother and her son -- while wanting to bring the issue to someone's attention -- would also want to do so without bringing unwanted attention to the son. In other words, they would seek to do so as discreetly as possible. So either the son would have spoken individually to a trusted teacher, advisor, or administrator, and then let them handle the situation with the young woman (without bringing him or his name into it as the source). Or, alternatively (though I do not approve of this approach), the son would have simply sent in an anonymous note to the colleges, and no one would be the wiser as to who was the source.

Instead -- and this is why I now believe that this is certainly a troll thread (and an excellent one, I might add, just look at the number of revenue-generating views and posts it had achieved for DCUM) -- the original poster/mother comes onto DCUM and informs an entire local community (where someone is bound to know someone who knows some other person who, in turn, knows someone else) that: (a) her son is the source of the leak; and then identifies her son (b) as the person whose title, position, and duties the young woman assumed for herself.

The original poster/mother later adds that multiple classmates are now approaching her son about lies of this young woman -- suggesting that he has been discussing the matter openly with at least some classmates (and everyone knows that nothing you tell someone else, much less multiple people in high school, will be kept a secret). Any young man who was smart enough to identify that, and how, a classmate's social media postings can hurt them; would also be smart enough to know that he should be discreet in "outing" that person. In this case, the original poster/mother and her supposed son have been anything but discreet, in fact they have left an entire social media trail as to their identities, motivations, and thought process.

Finally, throwing us indignant followers of this thread that tasty morsel of "Stanford" just pushed it over the edge into trolling territory for me. How much angrier and more indignant would the other posters be if the fictional young woman were to have used her dastardly lies to obtain admission to one of the country's finest, and most desired universities, then if she had exaggerated her resume for Cal State, Chico.