Is frugality in a high-earning woman a green flag or a red flag?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So funny how many men are chiming in that a woman who is both low-maintenance and hot is their dream woman.

Those 2 things cannot exist together. Being hot takes money and effort. What exactly do you think Sydney Sweeney would look like without the makeup, hair extensions, and boob job?

Also telling that all you care about is looks and that someone doesn't bother or inconvenience you. What you want is a cat, not a woman.

That's like women insisting men be both wealthy and not work much. The two cannot co-exist, except in extremely rare cases.

You can look beautiful naturally. Nice face, natural boobs, don’t need to work out to be in shape, don’t need makeup or nails.

Yeah, when she’s 21. This woman is a lawyer and probably works a lot for her money and is not 21.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total green flag for most men. Indicates low maintenance woman who doesn't see a man as a cash register. Very few nice-looking women like this exist.

That’s because, in general, “nice-looking” equals thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars a year of investment in their appearance. (Skincare, facials, gym memberships, cosmetics, hair coloring, haircuts, massages and similar to keep stress low which improves looks, teeth bleaching/veneers, clothes, shoes, waxing, threading, etc etc.)

I sort of understand why the men don’t believe this. It took me a while to realize that many women who look so nice put in so much effort - and I’m a woman!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Total green flag for most men. Indicates low maintenance woman who doesn't see a man as a cash register. Very few nice-looking women like this exist.

That’s because, in general, “nice-looking” equals thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars a year of investment in their appearance. (Skincare, facials, gym memberships, cosmetics, hair coloring, haircuts, massages and similar to keep stress low which improves looks, teeth bleaching/veneers, clothes, shoes, waxing, threading, etc etc.)

What a stupid post. If that was the case, the richest woman on earth would be the most beautiful woman on earth.
Most of the beautiful women I know aren’t financially well off.

[Anonymous]

Not tipping is an instant deal breaker for me. This person sounds cheap rather than frugal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So funny how many men are chiming in that a woman who is both low-maintenance and hot is their dream woman.

Those 2 things cannot exist together. Being hot takes money and effort. What exactly do you think Sydney Sweeney would look like without the makeup, hair extensions, and boob job?

Also telling that all you care about is looks and that someone doesn't bother or inconvenience you. What you want is a cat, not a woman.

That's like women insisting men be both wealthy and not work much. The two cannot co-exist, except in extremely rare cases.

You can look beautiful naturally. Nice face, natural boobs, don’t need to work out to be in shape, don’t need makeup or nails.

Sure. And some men can have a trust fund and be wealthy without ever having to work and be 6 feet tall with a 6 pack they never have to work out for. But those are rare, and they’re not going to date someone below their league.

Unless you are also bringing something extraordinary to the table, best not to pin your hopes on that kind of person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m talking about someone who is a lawyer and makes very good money, but:

* never tips or donates
* almost never eats out, and if she does it’s always the cheapest place or the cheapest thing on the menu
* avoids things like concerts, sporting events, festivals, shows, spas, etc. because she it’s as a waste of money
* doesn’t spend money on entertainment, events, gifts, Ubers, clothes, etc.
* hates paying for convenience (delivery fees, checked bags, valet, subscriptions, etc.)
* travels a few times a year but always very cheaply (budget airlines/basic hotels/red-eyes/points deals)
* researches everything and buys the cheapest/highest-quality version of literally everything from toothpaste to furniture
* can’t fathom spending $200 on a dress or $2000 on coat

Would men see this as financially responsible and disciplined, or as overly cheap/miserly? Especially in dating, does this kind of mindset help or hurt?

Provided she's otherwise kind and beautiful, the only thing that would bother me is the not tipping. Treating people poorly in the service world - whether restaurants or retail or whatever - is an immediate out. Don't care for such people. The entitlement, the casual cruelty, etc... no thanks. But otherwise have no problem with being cheap as long as they have joy and happiness in their lives and aren't stewing in misery and denial.

Spoiler: she’s not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as she is not MAGA.
And she is hot, well educated, high earner, frugal, does not suffer wasteful fools gladly and is not materialistic herself… she is prime WIFEY material.

All shades of Green Flag. She is the entire golf course. No no, she is the entire Amazon jungle!!!

These are contradictory. Being hot as a woman means investing heavily into your appearance. Gym memberships, healthy food, cosmetics, hair, clothes, etc all cost money.

Some women are naturally hot without all of this. There are many poor women very hot and beautiful.

I live in a poor area with many beautiful women. They *do* spend their money on their looks. They just may get drugstore makeup instead on at Sephora, or do their own lashes rather than get them done. But they still spend money on it, and often it’s money they don’t really have.

This reminds me of the natural makeup thing. Men say they don’t like makeup, but they do. They just want “natural”, not realizing that looking naturally beautiful is just as much effort and money as looking obviously made-up. Often even more money and effort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m talking about someone who is a lawyer and makes very good money, but:

* never tips or donates
* almost never eats out, and if she does it’s always the cheapest place or the cheapest thing on the menu
* avoids things like concerts, sporting events, festivals, shows, spas, etc. because she it’s as a waste of money
* doesn’t spend money on entertainment, events, gifts, Ubers, clothes, etc.
* hates paying for convenience (delivery fees, checked bags, valet, subscriptions, etc.)
* travels a few times a year but always very cheaply (budget airlines/basic hotels/red-eyes/points deals)
* researches everything and buys the cheapest/highest-quality version of literally everything from toothpaste to furniture
* can’t fathom spending $200 on a dress or $2000 on coat

Would men see this as financially responsible and disciplined, or as overly cheap/miserly? Especially in dating, does this kind of mindset help or hurt?

Provided she's otherwise kind and beautiful, the only thing that would bother me is the not tipping. Treating people poorly in the service world - whether restaurants or retail or whatever - is an immediate out. Don't care for such people. The entitlement, the casual cruelty, etc... no thanks. But otherwise have no problem with being cheap as long as they have joy and happiness in their lives and aren't stewing in misery and denial.

Spoiler: she’s not.

Women here are so odd/bitter.. I don’t know if it’s the ultra liberal feminist DC culture or just delusion, but some of you sound insane.
‘Yes, a frugal low maintenance girl can still be hot and beautiful. Just because you spend thousands at the hair salon and on appearances and think that’s why men choose you doesn’t mean you’re right. Beauty isn’t created at the salon, it’s natural.

Same thing with SAHMs and career women. Just because you’re smart and have a career doesn’t mean women who aren’t career oriented or super ambitious can’t land a guy.
A lot of you lie to yourselves to protect your ego and make yourselves feel better about your own choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not tipping is an instant deal breaker for me. This person sounds cheap rather than frugal.

She does not go out to eat, prioritizing her health and wallet. So, she does not need to tip. Good for her. All financial gurus would praise her. Warren Buffett would admire her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m talking about someone who is a lawyer and makes very good money, but:

* never tips or donates
* almost never eats out, and if she does it’s always the cheapest place or the cheapest thing on the menu
* avoids things like concerts, sporting events, festivals, shows, spas, etc. because she it’s as a waste of money
* doesn’t spend money on entertainment, events, gifts, Ubers, clothes, etc.
* hates paying for convenience (delivery fees, checked bags, valet, subscriptions, etc.)
* travels a few times a year but always very cheaply (budget airlines/basic hotels/red-eyes/points deals)
* researches everything and buys the cheapest/highest-quality version of literally everything from toothpaste to furniture
* can’t fathom spending $200 on a dress or $2000 on coat

Would men see this as financially responsible and disciplined, or as overly cheap/miserly? Especially in dating, does this kind of mindset help or hurt?

Provided she's otherwise kind and beautiful, the only thing that would bother me is the not tipping. Treating people poorly in the service world - whether restaurants or retail or whatever - is an immediate out. Don't care for such people. The entitlement, the casual cruelty, etc... no thanks. But otherwise have no problem with being cheap as long as they have joy and happiness in their lives and aren't stewing in misery and denial.

Spoiler: she’s not.

Women here are so odd/bitter.. I don’t know if it’s the ultra liberal feminist DC culture or just delusion, but some of you sound insane.
‘Yes, a frugal low maintenance girl can still be hot and beautiful. Just because you spend thousands at the hair salon and on appearances and think that’s why men choose you doesn’t mean you’re right. Beauty isn’t created at the salon, it’s natural.

Same thing with SAHMs and career women. Just because you’re smart and have a career doesn’t mean women who aren’t career oriented or super ambitious can’t land a guy.
A lot of you lie to yourselves to protect your ego and make yourselves feel better about your own choices.

You sound very dumb. A woman who doesn’t tip isn’t kind. Do you know about all the brunettes who say they received so much male attention as a blond? You probably don’t realize that the vast majority of blond hair is created at the salon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m talking about someone who is a lawyer and makes very good money, but:

* never tips or donates
* almost never eats out, and if she does it’s always the cheapest place or the cheapest thing on the menu
* avoids things like concerts, sporting events, festivals, shows, spas, etc. because she it’s as a waste of money
* doesn’t spend money on entertainment, events, gifts, Ubers, clothes, etc.
* hates paying for convenience (delivery fees, checked bags, valet, subscriptions, etc.)
* travels a few times a year but always very cheaply (budget airlines/basic hotels/red-eyes/points deals)
* researches everything and buys the cheapest/highest-quality version of literally everything from toothpaste to furniture
* can’t fathom spending $200 on a dress or $2000 on coat

Would men see this as financially responsible and disciplined, or as overly cheap/miserly? Especially in dating, does this kind of mindset help or hurt?

Provided she's otherwise kind and beautiful, the only thing that would bother me is the not tipping. Treating people poorly in the service world - whether restaurants or retail or whatever - is an immediate out. Don't care for such people. The entitlement, the casual cruelty, etc... no thanks. But otherwise have no problem with being cheap as long as they have joy and happiness in their lives and aren't stewing in misery and denial.

Spoiler: she’s not.

Women here are so odd/bitter.. I don’t know if it’s the ultra liberal feminist DC culture or just delusion, but some of you sound insane.
‘Yes, a frugal low maintenance girl can still be hot and beautiful. Just because you spend thousands at the hair salon and on appearances and think that’s why men choose you doesn’t mean you’re right. Beauty isn’t created at the salon, it’s natural.

Same thing with SAHMs and career women. Just because you’re smart and have a career doesn’t mean women who aren’t career oriented or super ambitious can’t land a guy.
A lot of you lie to yourselves to protect your ego and make yourselves feel better about your own choices.

Beauty nowadays is an assets that’s 99% created in salon and a gym.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m talking about someone who is a lawyer and makes very good money, but:

* never tips or donates
* almost never eats out, and if she does it’s always the cheapest place or the cheapest thing on the menu
* avoids things like concerts, sporting events, festivals, shows, spas, etc. because she it’s as a waste of money
* doesn’t spend money on entertainment, events, gifts, Ubers, clothes, etc.
* hates paying for convenience (delivery fees, checked bags, valet, subscriptions, etc.)
* travels a few times a year but always very cheaply (budget airlines/basic hotels/red-eyes/points deals)
* researches everything and buys the cheapest/highest-quality version of literally everything from toothpaste to furniture
* can’t fathom spending $200 on a dress or $2000 on coat

Would men see this as financially responsible and disciplined, or as overly cheap/miserly? Especially in dating, does this kind of mindset help or hurt?

Provided she's otherwise kind and beautiful, the only thing that would bother me is the not tipping. Treating people poorly in the service world - whether restaurants or retail or whatever - is an immediate out. Don't care for such people. The entitlement, the casual cruelty, etc... no thanks. But otherwise have no problem with being cheap as long as they have joy and happiness in their lives and aren't stewing in misery and denial.

Spoiler: she’s not.

Women here are so odd/bitter.. I don’t know if it’s the ultra liberal feminist DC culture or just delusion, but some of you sound insane.
‘Yes, a frugal low maintenance girl can still be hot and beautiful. Just because you spend thousands at the hair salon and on appearances and think that’s why men choose you doesn’t mean you’re right. Beauty isn’t created at the salon, it’s natural.

Same thing with SAHMs and career women. Just because you’re smart and have a career doesn’t mean women who aren’t career oriented or super ambitious can’t land a guy.
A lot of you lie to yourselves to protect your ego and make yourselves feel better about your own choices.

Beauty nowadays is an assets that’s 99% created in salon and a gym.

If that’s the case, they weren’t beautiful to begin with. I know tons of women who are naturally beautiful without going to the salon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m talking about someone who is a lawyer and makes very good money, but:

* never tips or donates
* almost never eats out, and if she does it’s always the cheapest place or the cheapest thing on the menu
* avoids things like concerts, sporting events, festivals, shows, spas, etc. because she it’s as a waste of money
* doesn’t spend money on entertainment, events, gifts, Ubers, clothes, etc.
* hates paying for convenience (delivery fees, checked bags, valet, subscriptions, etc.)
* travels a few times a year but always very cheaply (budget airlines/basic hotels/red-eyes/points deals)
* researches everything and buys the cheapest/highest-quality version of literally everything from toothpaste to furniture
* can’t fathom spending $200 on a dress or $2000 on coat

Would men see this as financially responsible and disciplined, or as overly cheap/miserly? Especially in dating, does this kind of mindset help or hurt?

Provided she's otherwise kind and beautiful, the only thing that would bother me is the not tipping. Treating people poorly in the service world - whether restaurants or retail or whatever - is an immediate out. Don't care for such people. The entitlement, the casual cruelty, etc... no thanks. But otherwise have no problem with being cheap as long as they have joy and happiness in their lives and aren't stewing in misery and denial.

Spoiler: she’s not.

Women here are so odd/bitter.. I don’t know if it’s the ultra liberal feminist DC culture or just delusion, but some of you sound insane.
‘Yes, a frugal low maintenance girl can still be hot and beautiful. Just because you spend thousands at the hair salon and on appearances and think that’s why men choose you doesn’t mean you’re right. Beauty isn’t created at the salon, it’s natural.

Same thing with SAHMs and career women. Just because you’re smart and have a career doesn’t mean women who aren’t career oriented or super ambitious can’t land a guy.
A lot of you lie to yourselves to protect your ego and make yourselves feel better about your own choices.

Beauty nowadays is an assets that’s 99% created in salon and a gym.

If that’s the case, they weren’t beautiful to begin with. I know tons of women who are naturally beautiful without going to the salon.

How old are they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m talking about someone who is a lawyer and makes very good money, but:

* never tips or donates
* almost never eats out, and if she does it’s always the cheapest place or the cheapest thing on the menu
* avoids things like concerts, sporting events, festivals, shows, spas, etc. because she it’s as a waste of money
* doesn’t spend money on entertainment, events, gifts, Ubers, clothes, etc.
* hates paying for convenience (delivery fees, checked bags, valet, subscriptions, etc.)
* travels a few times a year but always very cheaply (budget airlines/basic hotels/red-eyes/points deals)
* researches everything and buys the cheapest/highest-quality version of literally everything from toothpaste to furniture
* can’t fathom spending $200 on a dress or $2000 on coat

Would men see this as financially responsible and disciplined, or as overly cheap/miserly? Especially in dating, does this kind of mindset help or hurt?

Provided she's otherwise kind and beautiful, the only thing that would bother me is the not tipping. Treating people poorly in the service world - whether restaurants or retail or whatever - is an immediate out. Don't care for such people. The entitlement, the casual cruelty, etc... no thanks. But otherwise have no problem with being cheap as long as they have joy and happiness in their lives and aren't stewing in misery and denial.

Spoiler: she’s not.

Women here are so odd/bitter.. I don’t know if it’s the ultra liberal feminist DC culture or just delusion, but some of you sound insane.
‘Yes, a frugal low maintenance girl can still be hot and beautiful. Just because you spend thousands at the hair salon and on appearances and think that’s why men choose you doesn’t mean you’re right. Beauty isn’t created at the salon, it’s natural.

Same thing with SAHMs and career women. Just because you’re smart and have a career doesn’t mean women who aren’t career oriented or super ambitious can’t land a guy.
A lot of you lie to yourselves to protect your ego and make yourselves feel better about your own choices.

Beauty nowadays is an assets that’s 99% created in salon and a gym.

If that’s the case, they weren’t beautiful to begin with. I know tons of women who are naturally beautiful without going to the salon.

lol, fool, most men are too clueless to know the difference.

[Anonymous]

That's what daytime dates are for.