ICE is merely enforcing laws passed by Congress and signed by our elected presidents

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can all you MAGA please explain why we need ICE? Trump didn't use it his first term. There weren't masked thugs in the streets roughing people up or taking them away from immigration hearings, yet he was still able to deport people.

Can you explain why Trump can't deport people the way he did in his first term?


This is one of the men you are calling a "masked thug" or a "terrorist" or even worse. Watch his interview. He helped evacuate the detainees when the nutcase opened fire at the Dallas facility.



ICE as a group are behaving like masked thugs and terrorists. They are terrorizing for the sake of creating fear. They are racially profiling. They are treating human beings like they don't matter.

Is every single ICE agent irredeemable? Of course not. There are a lot of books about whether Nazi soldiers were "merely" following orders or whether they were "Hitler's willing executioners." Anyone with real integrity would quit the job before being part of this. To paraphrase Pope Leo, if you are "in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States," you are not pro-life nor, in my opinion, a good person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can all you MAGA please explain why we need ICE? Trump didn't use it his first term. There weren't masked thugs in the streets roughing people up or taking them away from immigration hearings, yet he was still able to deport people.

Can you explain why Trump can't deport people the way he did in his first term?
Because Biden brought in millions more who need to be deported.


That doesn't answer the question. Why do we need masked thugs now, when Trump was able to deport people without masked thugs in his first term?

Or, are you saying the violence is appropriate retribution because you're a cruel and vicious person?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time: ICE should be able to pick up illegal aliens from state & local law enforcement agencies. But because these other agencies are often not allowed to cooperate with ICE, they need to resort to picking them up wherever they can find them.

Also, the utter stupidity of the Democrats is the reason these millions of illegal aliens are here in the first place. They cause a big mess, & then get fussy about how others clean up that mess.


You sound beyond uneducated. Please go read something besides Cat in the Hat.
Anonymous
I feel really bad for cops and ICE agents who sign up to protect their communities for low salaries and dangerous conditions, only to be attacked and reviled by the communities they protect.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time: ICE should be able to pick up illegal aliens from state & local law enforcement agencies. But because these other agencies are often not allowed to cooperate with ICE, they need to resort to picking them up wherever they can find them.

Also, the utter stupidity of the Democrats is the reason these millions of illegal aliens are here in the first place. They cause a big mess, & then get fussy about how others clean up that mess.


You sound beyond uneducated. Please go read something besides Cat in the Hat.


This is why Trump won again. People say normal, sensible things and democrats just respond by calling them dumb. Well guess what, you've snobbed your way right out of power. Who's the dummy now?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hate towards federal workers who are simply doing their jobs?

I understand the emotional sympathy when a day-laborer gets detained and sent back to Central America, but the law is clear: one must follow legal pathways to work lawfully in the USA.

How does the hate, targeting ICE, make any sense?


It’s because no administration has ever enforced any of these laws before. We are the only country that has never enforced immigration laws related to illegal immigration. We are the one country where cases languish for 20 years without real consequences. We are likely the only country on Earth where you can reside with no legal basis AND pay taxes, become the superintendent of several large school districts, and run cooperations.

Now 80 years later they want to enforce laws all of a sudden. So people are in disbelief, and it’s an outrage.

Unfortunately they are also unfair about it and their methods range from questionable to awful.

Without a national ID and fair enforcement on the corporate level this will just remain a chaotic operation, terrorizing people, and accomplishing little.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can all you MAGA please explain why we need ICE? Trump didn't use it his first term. There weren't masked thugs in the streets roughing people up or taking them away from immigration hearings, yet he was still able to deport people.

Can you explain why Trump can't deport people the way he did in his first term?
Because Biden brought in millions more who need to be deported.


This is a fact the left chooses to ignore.


If there are all these millions of "illegals" roaming the country, why is ICE focused on people who are going through the system, people who are documented, people who have green cards and natural born US citizens? Have you ever considered that maybe there are not the "millions" of "illegals" that Biden let in afterall?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can all you MAGA please explain why we need ICE? Trump didn't use it his first term. There weren't masked thugs in the streets roughing people up or taking them away from immigration hearings, yet he was still able to deport people.

Can you explain why Trump can't deport people the way he did in his first term?
Because Biden brought in millions more who need to be deported.


This is a fact the left chooses to ignore.


If there are all these millions of "illegals" roaming the country, why is ICE focused on people who are going through the system, people who are documented, people who have green cards and natural born US citizens? Have you ever considered that maybe there are not the "millions" of "illegals" that Biden let in afterall?


Right?

They dropped out of a Blackhawk and raided an apartment building full of families. There is not nor will there ever be an excuse for this fascism and thuggery. Jail is too kind of a punishment for the people in charge and for these ICE agents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hate towards federal workers who are simply doing their jobs?

I understand the emotional sympathy when a day-laborer gets detained and sent back to Central America, but the law is clear: one must follow legal pathways to work lawfully in the USA.

How does the hate, targeting ICE, make any sense?


It’s because no administration has ever enforced any of these laws before. We are the only country that has never enforced immigration laws related to illegal immigration. We are the one country where cases languish for 20 years without real consequences. We are likely the only country on Earth where you can reside with no legal basis AND pay taxes, become the superintendent of several large school districts, and run cooperations.

Now 80 years later they want to enforce laws all of a sudden. So people are in disbelief, and it’s an outrage.

Unfortunately they are also unfair about it and their methods range from questionable to awful.

Without a national ID and fair enforcement on the corporate level this will just remain a chaotic operation, terrorizing people, and accomplishing little.


For decades, the democrats have offered to get legislation (that requires bipartisanship) through to reform the immigration system, to get more judges, more scanners, more enforcement etc that would address the issues you raise such as long wait times to hear asylum cases. And every.single.time. we are close, the GOP tanks it, most recently when Trump told the GOP in the senate not to pass a bill that was written by a GOP senator that Biden said he would sign. Harris also said she would sign it and Trump has never said he would sign it, instead getting billions to expand ICE into a new SS for the modern USA.

Getting a National ID is woefully expensive, but if you make it free and easy to obtain for every US citizen, then go for it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time: ICE should be able to pick up illegal aliens from state & local law enforcement agencies. But because these other agencies are often not allowed to cooperate with ICE, they need to resort to picking them up wherever they can find them.

Also, the utter stupidity of the Democrats is the reason these millions of illegal aliens are here in the first place. They cause a big mess, & then get fussy about how others clean up that mess.


You sound beyond uneducated. Please go read something besides Cat in the Hat.


This is why Trump won again. People say normal, sensible things and democrats just respond by calling them dumb. Well guess what, you've snobbed your way right out of power. Who's the dummy now?


It’s you.

You are still the dummies.

You are the cowards and the sheep and the fools.

Thanks for helping clear that up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can all you MAGA please explain why we need ICE? Trump didn't use it his first term. There weren't masked thugs in the streets roughing people up or taking them away from immigration hearings, yet he was still able to deport people.

Can you explain why Trump can't deport people the way he did in his first term?
Because Biden brought in millions more who need to be deported.


That doesn't answer the question. Why do we need masked thugs now, when Trump was able to deport people without masked thugs in his first term?

Or, are you saying the violence is appropriate retribution because you're a cruel and vicious person?


In Trump's first term, resistance judges were able to block many immigration measures. That is happening less in his second term, because he has Supreme Court rulings from his first term already decided.

So now, the resistance is actively resisting ICE in the streets, and putting them in danger.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can all you MAGA please explain why we need ICE? Trump didn't use it his first term. There weren't masked thugs in the streets roughing people up or taking them away from immigration hearings, yet he was still able to deport people.

Can you explain why Trump can't deport people the way he did in his first term?


This is one of the men you are calling a "masked thug" or a "terrorist" or even worse. Watch his interview. He helped evacuate the detainees when the nutcase opened fire at the Dallas facility.



ICE Officer Andres is a hero! And like all his fellow ICE officers, he is just another federal officer doing his job and enforcing laws passed by congress. That’s the American way.
Anonymous
“federal employee”

Do you support federal workers, or not?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the millionth time: ICE should be able to pick up illegal aliens from state & local law enforcement agencies. But because these other agencies are often not allowed to cooperate with ICE, they need to resort to picking them up wherever they can find them.

Also, the utter stupidity of the Democrats is the reason these millions of illegal aliens are here in the first place. They cause a big mess, & then get fussy about how others clean up that mess.


You sound beyond uneducated. Please go read something besides Cat in the Hat.


This is why Trump won again. People say normal, sensible things and democrats just respond by calling them dumb. Well guess what, you've snobbed your way right out of power. Who's the dummy now?


Why do you think anonymous PP is a Democrat? Or even a US citizen?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hate towards federal workers who are simply doing their jobs?

I understand the emotional sympathy when a day-laborer gets detained and sent back to Central America, but the law is clear: one must follow legal pathways to work lawfully in the USA.

How does the hate, targeting ICE, make any sense?


It’s because no administration has ever enforced any of these laws before. We are the only country that has never enforced immigration laws related to illegal immigration. We are the one country where cases languish for 20 years without real consequences. We are likely the only country on Earth where you can reside with no legal basis AND pay taxes, become the superintendent of several large school districts, and run cooperations.

Now 80 years later they want to enforce laws all of a sudden. So people are in disbelief, and it’s an outrage.

Unfortunately they are also unfair about it and their methods range from questionable to awful.

Without a national ID and fair enforcement on the corporate level this will just remain a chaotic operation, terrorizing people, and accomplishing little.


For decades, the democrats have offered to get legislation (that requires bipartisanship) through to reform the immigration system, to get more judges, more scanners, more enforcement etc that would address the issues you raise such as long wait times to hear asylum cases. And every.single.time. we are close, the GOP tanks it, most recently when Trump told the GOP in the senate not to pass a bill that was written by a GOP senator that Biden said he would sign. Harris also said she would sign it and Trump has never said he would sign it, instead getting billions to expand ICE into a new SS for the modern USA.

Getting a National ID is woefully expensive, but if you make it free and easy to obtain for every US citizen, then go for it.


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