Elderly woman died after carjacking near WHC in NW this afternoon, SUV crashed

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Anonymous wrote:Kayla Brown’s parents contacted 911 to seek help for their daughter who wasn’t acting normal after consuming drugs. Why did the authorities leave her unattended at the hospital? She should have been under constant supervision by hospital staff or security. I feel that this is the fault of our law enforcement and health care system. We need a better way to address mental illness and drug abuse. The law enforcement and hospital need to take some blame for this event.

She was transported to the hospital in an ambulance. She wasn't under arrest. There was no reason for the police to stay around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kayla Brown’s parents contacted 911 to seek help for their daughter who wasn’t acting normal after consuming drugs. Why did the authorities leave her unattended at the hospital? She should have been under constant supervision by hospital staff or security. I feel that this is the fault of our law enforcement and health care system. We need a better way to address mental illness and drug abuse. The law enforcement and hospital need to take some blame for this event.

We don’t have the resources for this. Hospitals are understaffed already.

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Anonymous wrote:Kayla Brown’s parents contacted 911 to seek help for their daughter who wasn’t acting normal after consuming drugs. Why did the authorities leave her unattended at the hospital? She should have been under constant supervision by hospital staff or security. I feel that this is the fault of our law enforcement and health care system. We need a better way to address mental illness and drug abuse. The law enforcement and hospital need to take some blame for this event.

Hi, hospital nurse here. No, it’s not my fault or the fault of any of the staff in the ED.

It’s Kayla Kenisha Brown’s fault and hers alone.

Unless your blame-shifting instincts lead you to think someone forcibly shoved psychosis inducing elephant tranquilizers down Kayla Kenisha Brown’s throat? She was just minding her business planting tomatoes out back and maybe The Man or Society sneaked some drugs into her veins against her will?

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Anonymous wrote:The arrested driver is a 22 year old who was at the hospital and “walked away from her family.” Sounds like she may have been the patient, maybe in crisis (mental, drugs?). The “elderly” woman was only 55 years old!
https://www.popville.com/2024/06/female-arrested-in-a-northwest-carjacking/#more-299868

I love the constant speculation that only and always tried to find a way to absolve this person of responsibility. Why not just wait for and rely on the facts?

Why are you so invested in a narrative that says this woman is an unrepentant monster? What do you gain from closing your mind off to the (pretty reasonable) possibility that she was not in her right mind?

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NP. I don't care. She killed someone, and Kayla Kenisha Brown needs to be taken out of society forever, be it in a classic prison or -- if "not in her right mind" -- then she needs to be locked up forever in one of the few remaining high security psychiatric facilities. ala John Hinckley.

Can't wait to see the toxicology report

Disagree, condolences to the family. But clearly the young 22 year old woman needs substance help, recovery and we need to know what the drug is. It's also possible she has mental health issues. No one should be caged for life, I prefer the European model.

This. She needs help, not a cage.

The time for help was when she was at the hospital. It's all cage the second she got in the car and killed someone.

So tired of these excuses.

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This will get plead down thankfully. That young woman deserves a second chance.

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Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/crime/2024/06/police-id-woman-killed-after-stolen-suv-crashes-into-dc-building-suspect-charged-with-murder-kidnapping-carjacking/

A very different version is emerging than what we initially thought.

As speculated, the perp was indeed a patient "acting crazy" and suspected of having taken some unknown drug.

So, like a drunk driver, she had no control over her actions.

Says who? Drunk drivers get convicted all the time. It appears she's not a run of the mill DC carjacker, though. This is more like those incidents of mentally ill guys knifing someone on the street. Random and unexplainable.

These random and unexplainable knifings and carjackings seem to happen in DC - but nowhere else. What could it be? Is it something in the water?

Or perhaps these poor victim-criminals who take bad drugs and then commit crimes are already generally-criminal-minded?

NP Indeed they happen elsewhere. I used to live in Florida and yeah carjackings were occurring there as well. Difference is that if caught in Florida, you will do the time.

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How does the person that gets whacked out of your mind on drugs and then murders someone get called a victim?

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Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/crime/2024/06/police-id-woman-killed-after-stolen-suv-crashes-into-dc-building-suspect-charged-with-murder-kidnapping-carjacking/

A very different version is emerging than what we initially thought.

As speculated, the perp was indeed a patient "acting crazy" and suspected of having taken some unknown drug.

So, like a drunk driver, she had no control over her actions.

Says who? Drunk drivers get convicted all the time. It appears she's not a run of the mill DC carjacker, though. This is more like those incidents of mentally ill guys knifing someone on the street. Random and unexplainable.

These random and unexplainable knifings and carjackings seem to happen in DC - but nowhere else. What could it be? Is it something in the water?

Or perhaps these poor victim-criminals who take bad drugs and then commit crimes are already generally-criminal-minded?

NP Indeed they happen elsewhere. I used to live in Florida and yeah carjackings were occurring there as well. Difference is that if caught in Florida, you will do the time.

Sure, carjackings are nationwide, although declining everywhere but here. But a patient acting crazy then randomly and unexplainably stealing a car with a woman inside and then crashing the car and killing her? That's too weird even for Florida.

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Anonymous wrote:This will get plead down thankfully. That young woman deserves a second chance.

A second chance at what? Killing?

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Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/crime/2024/06/police-id-woman-killed-after-stolen-suv-crashes-into-dc-building-suspect-charged-with-murder-kidnapping-carjacking/

A very different version is emerging than what we initially thought.

As speculated, the perp was indeed a patient "acting crazy" and suspected of having taken some unknown drug.

So, like a drunk driver, she had no control over her actions.

Says who? Drunk drivers get convicted all the time. It appears she's not a run of the mill DC carjacker, though. This is more like those incidents of mentally ill guys knifing someone on the street. Random and unexplainable.

These random and unexplainable knifings and carjackings seem to happen in DC - but nowhere else. What could it be? Is it something in the water?

Or perhaps these poor victim-criminals who take bad drugs and then commit crimes are already generally-criminal-minded?

NP Indeed they happen elsewhere. I used to live in Florida and yeah carjackings were occurring there as well. Difference is that if caught in Florida, you will do the time.

Sure, carjackings are nationwide, although declining everywhere but here. But a patient acting crazy then randomly and unexplainably stealing a car with a woman inside and then crashing the car and killing her? That's too weird even for Florida.

I don’t remember any of this empathy when people are making fun of “Florida man”.

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She was 55 years old. That isn't elderly.

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Anonymous wrote:The arrested driver is a 22 year old who was at the hospital and “walked away from her family.” Sounds like she may have been the patient, maybe in crisis (mental, drugs?). The “elderly” woman was only 55 years old!
https://www.popville.com/2024/06/female-arrested-in-a-northwest-carjacking/#more-299868

I love the constant speculation that only and always tried to find a way to absolve this person of responsibility. Why not just wait for and rely on the facts?

Why are you so invested in a narrative that says this woman is an unrepentant monster? What do you gain from closing your mind off to the (pretty reasonable) possibility that she was not in her right mind?

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NP. I don't care. She killed someone, and Kayla Kenisha Brown needs to be taken out of society forever, be it in a classic prison or -- if "not in her right mind" -- then she needs to be locked up forever in one of the few remaining high security psychiatric facilities. ala John Hinckley.

Can't wait to see the toxicology report

Disagree, condolences to the family. But clearly the young 22 year old woman needs substance help, recovery and we need to know what the drug is. It's also possible she has mental health issues. No one should be caged for life, I prefer the European model.

Then you take her with you to Europe and have a great time! Newsflash, things aren't much better there.

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Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/crime/2024/06/police-id-woman-killed-after-stolen-suv-crashes-into-dc-building-suspect-charged-with-murder-kidnapping-carjacking/

A very different version is emerging than what we initially thought.

As speculated, the perp was indeed a patient "acting crazy" and suspected of having taken some unknown drug.

So, like a drunk driver, she had no control over her actions.

Says who? Drunk drivers get convicted all the time. It appears she's not a run of the mill DC carjacker, though. This is more like those incidents of mentally ill guys knifing someone on the street. Random and unexplainable.

These random and unexplainable knifings and carjackings seem to happen in DC - but nowhere else. What could it be? Is it something in the water?

Or perhaps these poor victim-criminals who take bad drugs and then commit crimes are already generally-criminal-minded?

NP Indeed they happen elsewhere. I used to live in Florida and yeah carjackings were occurring there as well. Difference is that if caught in Florida, you will do the time.

They have leadership in Florida that do what they are supposed to do, keep the citizens safe. And DC has bow wow and company.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was 55 years old. That isn't elderly.

I know, this is so not the point of the story but I am like, shook at how the news just ran with "Elderly woman." God damn, y'all, she's 55.

Honestly if I were her I would be haunting Kayla AND the people who started the rumor that I was elderly.

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Anonymous wrote:The news just said the lady may have been dead before the car was taken.

Yes, it does sound like she was having a stroke or heart attack before the car was taken. Unclear why her poor dd had to drive her to the emergency room entrance while they were in the hospital.

This savage should still be charged with at least manslaughter even if they determine the poor woman was dead before the carjacking. They may have been able to render help had she not been effing kidnapped.

They were not in the hospital. The victim had just finished physical therapy when she was not feeling well and the daughter drove her from physical therapy to the hospital ER. When she got to the ER, she left the car running (presumably to keep the A/C on for her mother) and went in to get a wheelchair for her mother. That's when the woman with the drug problem jumped into the car and drove away.

She was at physical therapy AT the hospital according to the court docs released tonight.