Elderly woman died after carjacking near WHC in NW this afternoon, SUV crashed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when we excuse crime. Despicable what this city has done.

I’m all for blaming stuff on dc government but I don’t really get how this is that unless we find out the woman had a record. This doesn’t sound like kids joyriding, it sounds like a crazy/distressed person from the hospital.

She literally crashed the car into the prosecutors office outside of the courthouse. Obviously there were mental health issues at play here.

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This is why local media is important.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

It wouldn't be murder - probably manslaughter, but I get your point.

Nope. Felony murder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

It wouldn't be murder - probably manslaughter, but I get your point.

Nope. Felony murder.

It’s only felony murder if the underlying offense is a felony. Does the USAO charge carjacking as a felony anymore?

I also remember that Justice Lab were arguing that this very same scenario was justified to not be kidnapping as proposed under RCCA. Just another day DC should be glad for Congressional oversight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

Carjacker is a woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

It wouldn't be murder - probably manslaughter, but I get your point.

Nope. Felony murder.

It’s only felony murder if the underlying offense is a felony. Does the USAO charge carjacking as a felony anymore?

I also remember that Justice Lab were arguing that this very same scenario was justified to not be kidnapping as proposed under RCCA. Just another day DC should be glad for Congressional oversight.

Stealing a car is a felony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

It wouldn't be murder - probably manslaughter, but I get your point.

Nope. Felony murder.

It’s only felony murder if the underlying offense is a felony. Does the USAO charge carjacking as a felony anymore?

I also remember that Justice Lab were arguing that this very same scenario was justified to not be kidnapping as proposed under RCCA. Just another day DC should be glad for Congressional oversight.

Stealing a car is a felony.

Not one that can form the basis for felony murder in DC. Not all felonies are predicate felonies for felony murder purposes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

He will be charged criminally but that isn’t murder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

It wouldn't be murder - probably manslaughter, but I get your point.

Nope. Felony murder.

It’s only felony murder if the underlying offense is a felony. Does the USAO charge carjacking as a felony anymore?

I also remember that Justice Lab were arguing that this very same scenario was justified to not be kidnapping as proposed under RCCA. Just another day DC should be glad for Congressional oversight.

Stealing a car is a felony.

Not one that can form the basis for felony murder in DC. Not all felonies are predicate felonies for felony murder purposes.

The two young teens who killed Mohammad Anwar in a carjacking outside Nationals Park were guilty of felony murder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

It wouldn't be murder - probably manslaughter, but I get your point.

Nope. Felony murder.

It’s only felony murder if the underlying offense is a felony. Does the USAO charge carjacking as a felony anymore?

I also remember that Justice Lab were arguing that this very same scenario was justified to not be kidnapping as proposed under RCCA. Just another day DC should be glad for Congressional oversight.

Stealing a car is a felony.

Not one that can form the basis for felony murder in DC. Not all felonies are predicate felonies for felony murder purposes.

Come again? I mean, what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when we excuse crime. Despicable what this city has done.

I’m all for blaming stuff on dc government but I don’t really get how this is that unless we find out the woman had a record. This doesn’t sound like kids joyriding, it sounds like a crazy/distressed person from the hospital.

Not necessarily, there have been other carjackings in that area, from all 3 hospitals, that were crimes of opportunity. Not necessarily some escaped mental patient scenario. There is a lot of crime in that area if you look at the DCMPD crime cards and it is near other crime hot spots too with easy access roads.

Unclear what the endgame was driving downtown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

It wouldn't be murder - probably manslaughter, but I get your point.

Nope. Felony murder.

It’s only felony murder if the underlying offense is a felony. Does the USAO charge carjacking as a felony anymore?

I also remember that Justice Lab were arguing that this very same scenario was justified to not be kidnapping as proposed under RCCA. Just another day DC should be glad for Congressional oversight.

Stealing a car is a felony.

Not one that can form the basis for felony murder in DC. Not all felonies are predicate felonies for felony murder purposes.

Come again? I mean, what?

DP, but DC has a list of felonies that, if there's a death during the commission of that felony, can result in a charge of first degree murder. It's not all felonies. Car theft is not one those felonies nor is car jacking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

It wouldn't be murder - probably manslaughter, but I get your point.

Nope. Felony murder.

It’s only felony murder if the underlying offense is a felony. Does the USAO charge carjacking as a felony anymore?

I also remember that Justice Lab were arguing that this very same scenario was justified to not be kidnapping as proposed under RCCA. Just another day DC should be glad for Congressional oversight.

Stealing a car is a felony.

Not one that can form the basis for felony murder in DC. Not all felonies are predicate felonies for felony murder purposes.

Come again? I mean, what?

DP, but DC has a list of felonies that, if there's a death during the commission of that felony, can result in a charge of first degree murder. It's not all felonies. Car theft is not one those felonies nor is car jacking.

Is kidnapping on that list?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is prosecuted for murder.

It wouldn't be murder - probably manslaughter, but I get your point.

Nope. Felony murder.

It’s only felony murder if the underlying offense is a felony. Does the USAO charge carjacking as a felony anymore?

I also remember that Justice Lab were arguing that this very same scenario was justified to not be kidnapping as proposed under RCCA. Just another day DC should be glad for Congressional oversight.

Stealing a car is a felony.

Not one that can form the basis for felony murder in DC. Not all felonies are predicate felonies for felony murder purposes.

Come again? I mean, what?

DP, but DC has a list of felonies that, if there's a death during the commission of that felony, can result in a charge of first degree murder. It's not all felonies. Car theft is not one those felonies nor is car jacking.

Kidnapping is on this list:

https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/code/sections/22-2101