Thoughts on Syracuse?

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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculously expensive for what it is. Anyone who would pay full freight for it has too much money and not enough sense. That's what I think of it.

Why does everyone always bring up how expensive Syracuse is? It's literally the same price as every other private college and University in the US.

I think they are factoring in the cost of the 2 airplanes, 3 buses, and 1 dogsled you need to get from DMV to Syracuse.

NO, they are comparing to the great value of instate schools And if not instate for your family than OOS is still cheaper. I can't fathom paying $85-91K for Syracruse! WHY? You have 4,000 options in the USA. WHY would you spend that kind of money to go there?????

Some have no trouble affording it, apparently. Why drive a BMW when a used Honda will do? Why go to Europe when you can vacation at a local lake? Why go to a Michelin star when you can get your feed on at Maccers?

It's a matter of personal preference, and someone's ability to pay. Not really the mystery you make it.

In this case you’re paying BMW money for a Chevy, paying five star restaurant prices for Applebees, paying Ritz prices for Holiday Inn.

I’m not sure that I agree with this, but why does it matter if some people to choose to pay full price for Syracuse or any other private college if they can afford it? I agree that there are wonderful public options available to most people, but not all decisions are driven by cost or ROI alone. I’m sure that these strident views are serving you well and maybe contributing to your price sensitivity.

It doesn’t matter to me at all that other people do stupid things with their money, but if they stupidly and stridently insist that it’s “worth it” then I am happy to point out that it’s not.

+1 don't care what others do with their money, but this is a forum where people share their opinions.. solicited and otherwise.

Of course, I would never say anything to you to your face.

I don't think Syracuse is a terrible school, but it's not worth that sticker price. If your kid can get in for near to your in state public, then it makes sense. Otherwise, that's a crazy expensive purchase for what it is.

I will say that I did look at this school for DC because it has a specific major that DC is interested in, but I would not pay sticker price for it when the in state public and oos public that is cheaper also have that major.

Yes, you can get just as good an education at a state college as a private college. No one disagrees with that. As for prestige, yes there are some state schools which overall are more prestigious than many private schools.

The idea that the two experiences are equal is preposterous. I can name many opportunities and programs at SU that would be hard to find at a state college, (all of whom are budget crunched). It depends on what you value. It depends on fit. It depends on the program. It depends on what you can afford.

But this argument isn't about Syracuse at all. It's the same effing stupid "public vs private" argument over and over and over again. You can substitute any private college in its place and the argument is just as stupid.

Outside of journalism, name 1

First, FU. I am not here to prove anything to you. Do your own homework you lazy imbecile.

But just for the satisfaction of proving you wrong:

- The Bandier Music Industry program
- The Sony Music paid internship spot (only about 30 colleges have it)
- Nationally ranked student media outlets like WAER, WJPZ, UUTV (yes all colleges have those but they are not all the same, not all broadcast AAA pro baseball teams.)
- Every Newhouse program
- Every Maxwell program (undergrad too)
- Highly funded clubs and student union programs - over 300 (you get what you pay for. Syracuse even has intramural ice hockey, for example)
- Culture, school spirit, athletic programs
- It is an R1 research university. There are 146 of those out of 3,000 colleges (yes, many of those are public)
- #1 Best Public Affairs School, 2024 U.S. News & World Report.
- #1 Best Photojournalism Schools, 2023 College Factual.
- #1 Best Elementary Special Education, 2023 College Factual.
- #2 Information Technology Management, 2022 U.S. News & World Report.
- #3 Best Music Management, 2023 College Factual
- #2-5 Architecture (depending on ranker)

I personally HATE rankings. Syracuse has refused to play the ranking game, at their own peril. Started under Nancy Cantor and continues today.

I am not saying it is the #1 college in the nation. I am saying the idea it is somehow less of a value than other privates is stupid. And I have proved that here.

The insecure parent of a kid at Syracuse has entered the chat...

Wrong! Neither of my kids attended.

Why so much time spent on some mediocre private school with outcomes less than George Mason. Good god.

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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculously expensive for what it is. Anyone who would pay full freight for it has too much money and not enough sense. That's what I think of it.

Why does everyone always bring up how expensive Syracuse is? It's literally the same price as every other private college and University in the US.

I think they are factoring in the cost of the 2 airplanes, 3 buses, and 1 dogsled you need to get from DMV to Syracuse.

NO, they are comparing to the great value of instate schools And if not instate for your family than OOS is still cheaper. I can't fathom paying $85-91K for Syracruse! WHY? You have 4,000 options in the USA. WHY would you spend that kind of money to go there?????

Some have no trouble affording it, apparently. Why drive a BMW when a used Honda will do? Why go to Europe when you can vacation at a local lake? Why go to a Michelin star when you can get your feed on at Maccers?

It's a matter of personal preference, and someone's ability to pay. Not really the mystery you make it.

In this case you’re paying BMW money for a Chevy, paying five star restaurant prices for Applebees, paying Ritz prices for Holiday Inn.

I’m not sure that I agree with this, but why does it matter if some people to choose to pay full price for Syracuse or any other private college if they can afford it? I agree that there are wonderful public options available to most people, but not all decisions are driven by cost or ROI alone. I’m sure that these strident views are serving you well and maybe contributing to your price sensitivity.

It doesn’t matter to me at all that other people do stupid things with their money, but if they stupidly and stridently insist that it’s “worth it” then I am happy to point out that it’s not.

+1 don't care what others do with their money, but this is a forum where people share their opinions.. solicited and otherwise.

Of course, I would never say anything to you to your face.

I don't think Syracuse is a terrible school, but it's not worth that sticker price. If your kid can get in for near to your in state public, then it makes sense. Otherwise, that's a crazy expensive purchase for what it is.

I will say that I did look at this school for DC because it has a specific major that DC is interested in, but I would not pay sticker price for it when the in state public and oos public that is cheaper also have that major.

Yes, you can get just as good an education at a state college as a private college. No one disagrees with that. As for prestige, yes there are some state schools which overall are more prestigious than many private schools.

The idea that the two experiences are equal is preposterous. I can name many opportunities and programs at SU that would be hard to find at a state college, (all of whom are budget crunched). It depends on what you value. It depends on fit. It depends on the program. It depends on what you can afford.

But this argument isn't about Syracuse at all. It's the same effing stupid "public vs private" argument over and over and over again. You can substitute any private college in its place and the argument is just as stupid.

Outside of journalism, name 1

First, FU. I am not here to prove anything to you. Do your own homework you lazy imbecile.

But just for the satisfaction of proving you wrong:

- The Bandier Music Industry program
- The Sony Music paid internship spot (only about 30 colleges have it)
- Nationally ranked student media outlets like WAER, WJPZ, UUTV (yes all colleges have those but they are not all the same, not all broadcast AAA pro baseball teams.)
- Every Newhouse program
- Every Maxwell program (undergrad too)
- Highly funded clubs and student union programs - over 300 (you get what you pay for. Syracuse even has intramural ice hockey, for example)
- Culture, school spirit, athletic programs
- It is an R1 research university. There are 146 of those out of 3,000 colleges (yes, many of those are public)
- #1 Best Public Affairs School, 2024 U.S. News & World Report.
- #1 Best Photojournalism Schools, 2023 College Factual.
- #1 Best Elementary Special Education, 2023 College Factual.
- #2 Information Technology Management, 2022 U.S. News & World Report.
- #3 Best Music Management, 2023 College Factual
- #2-5 Architecture (depending on ranker)

I personally HATE rankings. Syracuse has refused to play the ranking game, at their own peril. Started under Nancy Cantor and continues today.

I am not saying it is the #1 college in the nation. I am saying the idea it is somehow less of a value than other privates is stupid. And I have proved that here.

dp.. it is less valuable than the T10 private, but not all that different to the vast majority of private. Lots of privates have culture, school spirit, athletics... etc.

You realize that was the point I was making, right? And that I said that several times?

Well, maybe you don't.

Indeed, but we are talking about SU here, and also, those are the privates aren't worth $80K either.

So why say "SU isn't worth it", why not say "no privates are worth it" as many here do?

It's a legit opinion, shared by many, although still just an opinion.

Because SOME privates are worth it, duh. SU is just one that has the unhappy combination of high price and inadequate prestige/rank, thus poor bang for the buck.

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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculously expensive for what it is. Anyone who would pay full freight for it has too much money and not enough sense. That's what I think of it.

Why does everyone always bring up how expensive Syracuse is? It's literally the same price as every other private college and University in the US.

I think they are factoring in the cost of the 2 airplanes, 3 buses, and 1 dogsled you need to get from DMV to Syracuse.

NO, they are comparing to the great value of instate schools And if not instate for your family than OOS is still cheaper. I can't fathom paying $85-91K for Syracruse! WHY? You have 4,000 options in the USA. WHY would you spend that kind of money to go there?????

Some have no trouble affording it, apparently. Why drive a BMW when a used Honda will do? Why go to Europe when you can vacation at a local lake? Why go to a Michelin star when you can get your feed on at Maccers?

It's a matter of personal preference, and someone's ability to pay. Not really the mystery you make it.

In this case you’re paying BMW money for a Chevy, paying five star restaurant prices for Applebees, paying Ritz prices for Holiday Inn.

I’m not sure that I agree with this, but why does it matter if some people to choose to pay full price for Syracuse or any other private college if they can afford it? I agree that there are wonderful public options available to most people, but not all decisions are driven by cost or ROI alone. I’m sure that these strident views are serving you well and maybe contributing to your price sensitivity.

It doesn’t matter to me at all that other people do stupid things with their money, but if they stupidly and stridently insist that it’s “worth it” then I am happy to point out that it’s not.

+1 don't care what others do with their money, but this is a forum where people share their opinions.. solicited and otherwise.

Of course, I would never say anything to you to your face.

I don't think Syracuse is a terrible school, but it's not worth that sticker price. If your kid can get in for near to your in state public, then it makes sense. Otherwise, that's a crazy expensive purchase for what it is.

I will say that I did look at this school for DC because it has a specific major that DC is interested in, but I would not pay sticker price for it when the in state public and oos public that is cheaper also have that major.

Yes, you can get just as good an education at a state college as a private college. No one disagrees with that. As for prestige, yes there are some state schools which overall are more prestigious than many private schools.

The idea that the two experiences are equal is preposterous. I can name many opportunities and programs at SU that would be hard to find at a state college, (all of whom are budget crunched). It depends on what you value. It depends on fit. It depends on the program. It depends on what you can afford.

But this argument isn't about Syracuse at all. It's the same effing stupid "public vs private" argument over and over and over again. You can substitute any private college in its place and the argument is just as stupid.

Outside of journalism, name 1

First, FU. I am not here to prove anything to you. Do your own homework you lazy imbecile.

But just for the satisfaction of proving you wrong:

- The Bandier Music Industry program
- The Sony Music paid internship spot (only about 30 colleges have it)
- Nationally ranked student media outlets like WAER, WJPZ, UUTV (yes all colleges have those but they are not all the same, not all broadcast AAA pro baseball teams.)
- Every Newhouse program
- Every Maxwell program (undergrad too)
- Highly funded clubs and student union programs - over 300 (you get what you pay for. Syracuse even has intramural ice hockey, for example)
- Culture, school spirit, athletic programs
- It is an R1 research university. There are 146 of those out of 3,000 colleges (yes, many of those are public)
- #1 Best Public Affairs School, 2024 U.S. News & World Report.
- #1 Best Photojournalism Schools, 2023 College Factual.
- #1 Best Elementary Special Education, 2023 College Factual.
- #2 Information Technology Management, 2022 U.S. News & World Report.
- #3 Best Music Management, 2023 College Factual
- #2-5 Architecture (depending on ranker)

I personally HATE rankings. Syracuse has refused to play the ranking game, at their own peril. Started under Nancy Cantor and continues today.

I am not saying it is the #1 college in the nation. I am saying the idea it is somehow less of a value than other privates is stupid. And I have proved that here.

The insecure parent of a kid at Syracuse has entered the chat...

Wrong! Neither of my kids attended.

Why so much time spent on some mediocre private school with outcomes less than George Mason. Good god.

It seems you deemed it worthy of your time!

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Syracuse ❤️

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Wow. Lots of good info on this thread AND lots of crazy.

I really don’t understand what causes people to be this hostile. With strangers. About a college. 🤷‍♀️

As someone who lives near Syracuse and has been on campus recently with my family for basketball games, I can share two things:

(1) It is definitely a social school with tons of rah-rah school spirit! Not just at the games but the whole vibe surrounding them. Tons of kids walking around campus together, hanging out in and around group houses together (fraternity + non, I think). Some then went to the games, but many did not. Heading back to our car after the game, it was clear tons of kids had just been hanging out while the game was going. To me, it all had a fun, laid-back rah-rah “game day” feel - super appealing, if that’s your thing!

(2) As I said, this was basketball season, so it was obviously WINTER. As in snow on the ground, grey skies, at least two of the games it was actually snowing lightly. And it didn’t seem to matter one bit. Life went on in what seemed to be the best of ways. Unless your kid is truly extra sensitive to cold/grey weather, I wouldn’t worry about it. Kids are resilient and it doesn’t hold them back from campus life. (That said, some kids truly prioritize warmth and sun over many other things. If that’s your kid, I highly recommend Clemson or University of South Carolina instead!)

(3) Back to #1, we have friends whose kids are at Syracuse who are NOT into the sports/game day parties/fraternity scene at all and they love it, too. Remember, this is a BIG school. There are so many different types of kids - more than enough for anyone to find their tribe. Including the less sporty kids. (One of our kid’s friends is looking into the theater/production/arts program - apparently it’s great.)

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“One of our kid’s friends is looking into the theater/production/arts program - apparently it’s great.”

lmao at paying $80k for this. Negative ROI, ouch.

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I went to Syracuse in the early 2000s and it was about the same price as my in-state public options due the significant merit/financial aid I received. People keep going on and on about it not being worth the 80k price tag. Is anyone actually paying that? Do they give out less aid now?

I loved Syracuse BTW. And echo the comments that I don't know anyone who didn't love their time there (despite the weather).

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I really don’t understand posting about a school about which you know nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand posting about a school about which you know nothing.

Don't need to know that much about SU to know that it's not worth the $80K sticker price. Outside of maybe the T10 private, no univ is worth that much.

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The biggest whore I know is a Syracuse alum. That’s all I know.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Syracuse in the early 2000s and it was about the same price as my in-state public options due the significant merit/financial aid I received. People keep going on and on about it not being worth the 80k price tag. Is anyone actually paying that? Do they give out less aid now?

Dunno how much you got but per the CDS they gave half the kids who had “no financial need” an average of a $15k discount which doesn’t bring it down to in-state public prices.

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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculously expensive for what it is. Anyone who would pay full freight for it has too much money and not enough sense. That's what I think of it.

Why does everyone always bring up how expensive Syracuse is? It's literally the same price as every other private college and University in the US.

I think they are factoring in the cost of the 2 airplanes, 3 buses, and 1 dogsled you need to get from DMV to Syracuse.

NO, they are comparing to the great value of instate schools And if not instate for your family than OOS is still cheaper. I can't fathom paying $85-91K for Syracruse! WHY? You have 4,000 options in the USA. WHY would you spend that kind of money to go there?????

Some have no trouble affording it, apparently. Why drive a BMW when a used Honda will do? Why go to Europe when you can vacation at a local lake? Why go to a Michelin star when you can get your feed on at Maccers?

It's a matter of personal preference, and someone's ability to pay. Not really the mystery you make it.

In this case you’re paying BMW money for a Chevy, paying five star restaurant prices for Applebees, paying Ritz prices for Holiday Inn.

I’m not sure that I agree with this, but why does it matter if some people to choose to pay full price for Syracuse or any other private college if they can afford it? I agree that there are wonderful public options available to most people, but not all decisions are driven by cost or ROI alone. I’m sure that these strident views are serving you well and maybe contributing to your price sensitivity.

It doesn’t matter to me at all that other people do stupid things with their money, but if they stupidly and stridently insist that it’s “worth it” then I am happy to point out that it’s not.

+1 don't care what others do with their money, but this is a forum where people share their opinions.. solicited and otherwise.

Of course, I would never say anything to you to your face.

I don't think Syracuse is a terrible school, but it's not worth that sticker price. If your kid can get in for near to your in state public, then it makes sense. Otherwise, that's a crazy expensive purchase for what it is.

I will say that I did look at this school for DC because it has a specific major that DC is interested in, but I would not pay sticker price for it when the in state public and oos public that is cheaper also have that major.

Yes, you can get just as good an education at a state college as a private college. No one disagrees with that. As for prestige, yes there are some state schools which overall are more prestigious than many private schools.

The idea that the two experiences are equal is preposterous. I can name many opportunities and programs at SU that would be hard to find at a state college, (all of whom are budget crunched). It depends on what you value. It depends on fit. It depends on the program. It depends on what you can afford.

But this argument isn't about Syracuse at all. It's the same effing stupid "public vs private" argument over and over and over again. You can substitute any private college in its place and the argument is just as stupid.

Please don’t compare Syracuse to the hundreds of better private school options. Not the same

Please list the "hundreds of better private options", and why.

In advance, I know you won't because you can't.

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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculously expensive for what it is. Anyone who would pay full freight for it has too much money and not enough sense. That's what I think of it.

Why does everyone always bring up how expensive Syracuse is? It's literally the same price as every other private college and University in the US.

I think they are factoring in the cost of the 2 airplanes, 3 buses, and 1 dogsled you need to get from DMV to Syracuse.

NO, they are comparing to the great value of instate schools And if not instate for your family than OOS is still cheaper. I can't fathom paying $85-91K for Syracruse! WHY? You have 4,000 options in the USA. WHY would you spend that kind of money to go there?????

Some have no trouble affording it, apparently. Why drive a BMW when a used Honda will do? Why go to Europe when you can vacation at a local lake? Why go to a Michelin star when you can get your feed on at Maccers?

It's a matter of personal preference, and someone's ability to pay. Not really the mystery you make it.

In this case you’re paying BMW money for a Chevy, paying five star restaurant prices for Applebees, paying Ritz prices for Holiday Inn.

I’m not sure that I agree with this, but why does it matter if some people to choose to pay full price for Syracuse or any other private college if they can afford it? I agree that there are wonderful public options available to most people, but not all decisions are driven by cost or ROI alone. I’m sure that these strident views are serving you well and maybe contributing to your price sensitivity.

It doesn’t matter to me at all that other people do stupid things with their money, but if they stupidly and stridently insist that it’s “worth it” then I am happy to point out that it’s not.

+1 don't care what others do with their money, but this is a forum where people share their opinions.. solicited and otherwise.

Of course, I would never say anything to you to your face.

I don't think Syracuse is a terrible school, but it's not worth that sticker price. If your kid can get in for near to your in state public, then it makes sense. Otherwise, that's a crazy expensive purchase for what it is.

I will say that I did look at this school for DC because it has a specific major that DC is interested in, but I would not pay sticker price for it when the in state public and oos public that is cheaper also have that major.

Yes, you can get just as good an education at a state college as a private college. No one disagrees with that. As for prestige, yes there are some state schools which overall are more prestigious than many private schools.

The idea that the two experiences are equal is preposterous. I can name many opportunities and programs at SU that would be hard to find at a state college, (all of whom are budget crunched). It depends on what you value. It depends on fit. It depends on the program. It depends on what you can afford.

But this argument isn't about Syracuse at all. It's the same effing stupid "public vs private" argument over and over and over again. You can substitute any private college in its place and the argument is just as stupid.

Outside of journalism, name 1

First, FU. I am not here to prove anything to you. Do your own homework you lazy imbecile.

But just for the satisfaction of proving you wrong:

- The Bandier Music Industry program
- The Sony Music paid internship spot (only about 30 colleges have it)
- Nationally ranked student media outlets like WAER, WJPZ, UUTV (yes all colleges have those but they are not all the same, not all broadcast AAA pro baseball teams.)
- Every Newhouse program
- Every Maxwell program (undergrad too)
- Highly funded clubs and student union programs - over 300 (you get what you pay for. Syracuse even has intramural ice hockey, for example)
- Culture, school spirit, athletic programs
- It is an R1 research university. There are 146 of those out of 3,000 colleges (yes, many of those are public)
- #1 Best Public Affairs School, 2024 U.S. News & World Report.
- #1 Best Photojournalism Schools, 2023 College Factual.
- #1 Best Elementary Special Education, 2023 College Factual.
- #2 Information Technology Management, 2022 U.S. News & World Report.
- #3 Best Music Management, 2023 College Factual
- #2-5 Architecture (depending on ranker)

I personally HATE rankings. Syracuse has refused to play the ranking game, at their own peril. Started under Nancy Cantor and continues today.

I am not saying it is the #1 college in the nation. I am saying the idea it is somehow less of a value than other privates is stupid. And I have proved that here.

You proved you’re not very good at proving the unprovable.

Well, when you dispute a point like that with so much supporting information, it is impossible to argue. Congratualtions, Mr. 10-Word-Rebuttal-Because-I-Say-So", you have again proved your dominance in the arena, and you may proudly parade the grounds carrying your victims' head and then head home and wash your cape and polish your codpiece to prepare for your next battle.

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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculously expensive for what it is. Anyone who would pay full freight for it has too much money and not enough sense. That's what I think of it.

Why does everyone always bring up how expensive Syracuse is? It's literally the same price as every other private college and University in the US.

I think they are factoring in the cost of the 2 airplanes, 3 buses, and 1 dogsled you need to get from DMV to Syracuse.

NO, they are comparing to the great value of instate schools And if not instate for your family than OOS is still cheaper. I can't fathom paying $85-91K for Syracruse! WHY? You have 4,000 options in the USA. WHY would you spend that kind of money to go there?????

Some have no trouble affording it, apparently. Why drive a BMW when a used Honda will do? Why go to Europe when you can vacation at a local lake? Why go to a Michelin star when you can get your feed on at Maccers?

It's a matter of personal preference, and someone's ability to pay. Not really the mystery you make it.

In this case you’re paying BMW money for a Chevy, paying five star restaurant prices for Applebees, paying Ritz prices for Holiday Inn.

I’m not sure that I agree with this, but why does it matter if some people to choose to pay full price for Syracuse or any other private college if they can afford it? I agree that there are wonderful public options available to most people, but not all decisions are driven by cost or ROI alone. I’m sure that these strident views are serving you well and maybe contributing to your price sensitivity.

It doesn’t matter to me at all that other people do stupid things with their money, but if they stupidly and stridently insist that it’s “worth it” then I am happy to point out that it’s not.

+1 don't care what others do with their money, but this is a forum where people share their opinions.. solicited and otherwise.

Of course, I would never say anything to you to your face.

I don't think Syracuse is a terrible school, but it's not worth that sticker price. If your kid can get in for near to your in state public, then it makes sense. Otherwise, that's a crazy expensive purchase for what it is.

I will say that I did look at this school for DC because it has a specific major that DC is interested in, but I would not pay sticker price for it when the in state public and oos public that is cheaper also have that major.

Yes, you can get just as good an education at a state college as a private college. No one disagrees with that. As for prestige, yes there are some state schools which overall are more prestigious than many private schools.

The idea that the two experiences are equal is preposterous. I can name many opportunities and programs at SU that would be hard to find at a state college, (all of whom are budget crunched). It depends on what you value. It depends on fit. It depends on the program. It depends on what you can afford.

But this argument isn't about Syracuse at all. It's the same effing stupid "public vs private" argument over and over and over again. You can substitute any private college in its place and the argument is just as stupid.

Please don’t compare Syracuse to the hundreds of better private school options. Not the same

Please list the "hundreds of better private options", and why.

In advance, I know you won't because you can't.

Depending on your list, SU is in the top 100 but in the 50-100 range, which is bad. Not high enough to be worth full pay, plenty of cheaper publics also in that range.

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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculously expensive for what it is. Anyone who would pay full freight for it has too much money and not enough sense. That's what I think of it.

Why does everyone always bring up how expensive Syracuse is? It's literally the same price as every other private college and University in the US.

I think they are factoring in the cost of the 2 airplanes, 3 buses, and 1 dogsled you need to get from DMV to Syracuse.

NO, they are comparing to the great value of instate schools And if not instate for your family than OOS is still cheaper. I can't fathom paying $85-91K for Syracruse! WHY? You have 4,000 options in the USA. WHY would you spend that kind of money to go there?????

Some have no trouble affording it, apparently. Why drive a BMW when a used Honda will do? Why go to Europe when you can vacation at a local lake? Why go to a Michelin star when you can get your feed on at Maccers?

It's a matter of personal preference, and someone's ability to pay. Not really the mystery you make it.

In this case you’re paying BMW money for a Chevy, paying five star restaurant prices for Applebees, paying Ritz prices for Holiday Inn.

I’m not sure that I agree with this, but why does it matter if some people to choose to pay full price for Syracuse or any other private college if they can afford it? I agree that there are wonderful public options available to most people, but not all decisions are driven by cost or ROI alone. I’m sure that these strident views are serving you well and maybe contributing to your price sensitivity.

It doesn’t matter to me at all that other people do stupid things with their money, but if they stupidly and stridently insist that it’s “worth it” then I am happy to point out that it’s not.

+1 don't care what others do with their money, but this is a forum where people share their opinions.. solicited and otherwise.

Of course, I would never say anything to you to your face.

I don't think Syracuse is a terrible school, but it's not worth that sticker price. If your kid can get in for near to your in state public, then it makes sense. Otherwise, that's a crazy expensive purchase for what it is.

I will say that I did look at this school for DC because it has a specific major that DC is interested in, but I would not pay sticker price for it when the in state public and oos public that is cheaper also have that major.

Yes, you can get just as good an education at a state college as a private college. No one disagrees with that. As for prestige, yes there are some state schools which overall are more prestigious than many private schools.

The idea that the two experiences are equal is preposterous. I can name many opportunities and programs at SU that would be hard to find at a state college, (all of whom are budget crunched). It depends on what you value. It depends on fit. It depends on the program. It depends on what you can afford.

But this argument isn't about Syracuse at all. It's the same effing stupid "public vs private" argument over and over and over again. You can substitute any private college in its place and the argument is just as stupid.

Please don’t compare Syracuse to the hundreds of better private school options. Not the same

Please list the "hundreds of better private options", and why.

In advance, I know you won't because you can't.

Depending on your list, SU is in the top 100 but in the 50-100 range, which is bad. Not high enough to be worth full pay, plenty of cheaper publics also in that range.

Which program are you talking about, specifically? Oh, wait, you are not considering that SU accepts by college and major ad the competitiveness varies from ivy-level to majority accepted? Or that they don’t play the ratings game?

I will wait until you can list the “hundreds of better private options” and tell me why. I repeat that you can’t, and that is why you didn’t.