USWNT loses 0-2
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Anonymous
Right. Regardless, what was mentioned was 'name the 19 year old American women players in Europe.' Even going off the idea that they only knew of 2 NT players over there, they probably thought of only Horan, who has been there for a while now and Fox who just got there recently. Probably didn't even know about Mia Fishel who took the road less traveled for whatever reason, likely looked over often just like Lily Yohannes. Can't forget Kristie Mewis either who recently now just got an opportunity overseas. Point being is that just based off of those players alone you can see that there's no clear path to even get over to Europe but there's the ability to. There are plenty of players here that even grow up here and end up being able to play on the international stage but often take different routes. How many girls played on that Philippine NT were essentially homegrown US players? I think it was at least 75 percent of that roster. |
Anonymous
This shows that the problem in the US isn’t development, it’s scouting. Look at the MEX team that beat the US. At least 1/3 of the team is dual nat American or played college soccer in the US or both. The US is still, BY FAR, the leader when it comes to women’s soccer talent and even skill. Sometimes this happens in spite of the coaching, but it’s overwhelmingly true. The fact remains that the sheer volume of players and resources poured into girl’s soccer in the US pretty much guarantees a leadership position. At present there is simply no economic incentive for clubs in the rest of the world to develop better women’s domestic development. The USWNT and our domestic scouting is not up to snuff right now. Basically, a kid needs to get into the pool at 13, and then just hang. Kids who develop late, or somehow don’t catch an scout’s eye just head off to play in college. I don’t know how you fix that in a country the size of the US, but anyone who has been to an ECNL/GA showcase has seen two dozen kids who could probably develop into the next generation of USWNT. They are out there, but our nat team doesn’t seem to know how to make the network function. |
Anonymous
Oh my good no! Mexico is ranked in the mid 30’s with teams like Vietnam and the Philippines. The US is not the the leader when it comes to women’s soccer talent specifically skilled players. https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/jan/09/the-100-best-female-footballers-in-the-world-2023 Two US players in the the top 25(Smith 18 and Horan 21), Naomi Girma 36, Trinity Rodman 50, Alex Morgan 53(lol), Lynn Williams Gotham 63 and Alyssa Thompson 95. Don’t like the guardian because it is obvious bias toward foreign players and what do they know about soccer! https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/39050145/2023-best-50-women-soccer-players-ranked-world 4 US players make the top 50. The highest 13.Sophia Smith. The next highest 21. Naomi Girma. Spain 6 in the top 20. Only 1 NWSL player in the top 20(though on Girma is 21) Other interesting players 4. Linda Caicedo : Colombia Club: Real Madrid Age: 18 5. Salma Paralluelo Country: Spain Club: Barcelona Age: 19 Position: Forward 10. Olga Carmona Country: Spain Club: Real Madrid Age: 23 The best women soccer is being played in La Liga Barcelona and Real Madrid with the SL clearly second. |
Anonymous
The only player that comes close is Horan. Catarina Macario skipped the NWSL but wasted 3 years at Stanford. Kristie Mewis is a bench player and 33. Now her sister Sam played during covid in England and was really coming in to her own…too bad about that. Rose Lavelle could not even break in to the staring line up. There are no 19 year old American women soccer players playing in Europe. The US players are in college while the Europeans play and train in a professional environment. The way you frame it any American professional women soccer player should be able to go to Europe and start on the best teams. The thing is many try but a way behind their European peers and end up on the 2nd division teams. |
Anonymous
| We will soon look very much like the men’s team - horrible |
Anonymous
| USWNT wins the Gold Cup! |
Anonymous
Thank Horans big head! I'm only kidding, very nice goal. |
Anonymous
It’s clear the US and its fan base are going though a period of self flagellation, and I stand by my point that our biggest problem is poor scouting. We have kids with good foot skills that get passed over, and we play pretty “ugly” soccer a lot of the time. HOWEVER Those lists mentioned are actually better examples of the current anti-uswnt trend. To wit, the ESPN list has 10(!) England players on the list, TEN! That’s basically the entire starting lineup. And yet, in 2023, that exact England team barely squeaked out a 2-1 win against the US at home in Wembley stadium, where they had to get lucky on a called back US goal for offside during the build up. So the team with 10 in the top 50 can’t take the team that barely musters 4? And don’t say it was coaching, because he was terrible. We are in a down moment, but the US simply has sheer numbers of women players to guarantee a competitive team, if we only get the best on the field. |
Anonymous
This. What the US did was blaze a trail for women, which is no small thing. But now that we have some real competition, we will continue to lose. As will the USMNT. And now that I’ve experienced the youth soccer system in this country, I know why. |
Anonymous
| This fall with the U17's having their World Cup will be telling. The roster will be stacked with who the USSF believes is the future. Let's see how they hold up against the world. |