USWNT loses 0-2

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Anonymous wrote:Look at how crazy the Youth Travel programs are locally. Not development, win at all cost. The end result is all the clubs are blowing up because everyone is seeking ECNL or top league play but nobody is truly qualified for it. When you have a group of national players who are all about how many goals they score individually, you don't win games. PERIOD. The style of play in the US has descended into chaos and will only get worse with the current USYNT leadership.

Yes, and also look at all the new young talent in the USWNT, specifially this selection, the following players did not go to college or left early to go pro, I might miss one:

Horan (not young but first notable player to forgo college to go pro)
Shaw
Rodman
Smith
Moultrie
Albert
Fishel
Swanson
Thompson

ECNL again is the elite option for college, but a failing model for international soccer success and long term skill development because coaches are too powerful and play for results. Girls need pro-pathways ASAP! GA are you paying attention, this is a market inefficiency waiting for a league to create pro-pathways

There aren't enough girls good enough to skip college to make a league focusing solely on pro-pathways viable.

Yes there is and they’re stagnating in college.

PP listed 9 women who went straight to the pros over the course of 12 years. How is that enough to make a youth league that disregards college recruiting and focuses on the pros viable?

DP, but this is a really silly take. Women couldn’t make any real money in professional soccer until very recently, so it made sense to use their talents to get college soccer scholarships. There are plenty of young U.S. women talented enough to play at the highest levels, and more and more will be following in the footsteps of those PP listed. Or they’ll leave college early to go pro. This happens with the men and MLS all the time.

Yeah, don’t know about that. The knock rounds of the World Cup did not have many NWSL players. The US players including college are not that good. They lack technical skills and passing ability. Go watch the women’s Barcelona game. 2-3 passes and they are out of pressure, another 2-3 and they are in your box. Kick it long, it’s a turn and the box is back in your box. It’s a different and takes a different skill set vs what is selected here.

Hence the need for academies with pro-pathways. The whole VRSC GA thing is ridiculous at first glance, and the vision and infrastructure jokes are spot on, but what if their IMG-lite residential school academy checks out. Rumor is new USLSL franchise will train out of Loudoun FC facilities but couldn’t their youth academy be the farm in Loudoun?

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clear that even at the Under-20 level, we're not there anymore,” Hickey says. "And we [once] were.”

Van Rijbroek notes that, “in our youth teams, we're not focused on the results”; U-level competitions can be deceiving. But, she adds, “there is also a very clear explanation.” American 19-year-olds are often in college, having come up through this faulty system; their peers in Spain or France, meanwhile, who were once dissuaded from even playing the sport, are now mastering it in youth academies at the world’s most famous clubs.

“If you look at the countries in Europe or Japan, those players, where they play, … the number of games that they play, the number of training sessions — compare that with all our players that are in college,” van Rijbroek says. “If you're four years in college or four years in the youth academy of Barcelona or Olympique Lyon, that's a huge difference.”

At Barca, England defender Lucy Bronze told ESPN last year, “there are just like clones and clones and clones of these amazing, technical, intelligent players.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/us-soccer-girls-youth-development-ecnl-000044659.html

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They were as evident as ever Monday, in a group stage finale at the inaugural CONCACAF W Gold Cup. Mexico went at the USWNT, and U.S. players all across the field repeatedly failed to solve pressure. Their problems were technical and tactical. Their sloppiness ceded control of the game.

In possession, they had simple structural foundations, and a defined shape, with a fullback inverting. But they had no nuanced ideas or, it appeared, depth of thought. They lacked creativity and coordination. “We found some pockets here and there,” forward Alex Morgan said, “but not nearly enough.” There were no synchronized movements, no manipulation of angles, no reading of cues.

There was, instead, the same staleness and on-ball panic that defined their short stay in New Zealand last summer.

Mexico, on the other hand, was calculated — and in many ways, it out-USWNTed the USWNT. Its defenders would draw in U.S. forwards, then play long; its midfielders and forwards won the day by winning second balls and duels they didn’t used to win. Jacquie Ovalle forced Becky Sauerbrunn into a 37th-minute mistake, and put Mexico ahead.

https://sports.yahoo.com/uswnts-loss-mexico-program-in-decline-164149335.html

Ouch! The US played like the system that created them.

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USWNT needs to partner with BRAVE for more players

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It's robotic. But that's what this system builds, robotic players.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL destroyed the youth soccer landscape and is now a domino effect on the NL. ECNL blew up the HS recruiting and ODP program.

ODP should be the only route to USWNT.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL destroyed the youth soccer landscape and is now a domino effect on the NL. ECNL blew up the HS recruiting and ODP program.

ODP should be the only route to USWNT.

But now ODP is a shell of itself. It's just pay to play 2.0 nowadays.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL destroyed the youth soccer landscape and is now a domino effect on the NL. ECNL blew up the HS recruiting and ODP program.

ODP should be the only route to USWNT.

But now ODP is a shell of itself. It's just pay to play 2.0 nowadays.

True, but it doesn’t have to be that way. In terms of developing player, the European model is not the only way. What are they doing in Brazil and Argentina?

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL destroyed the youth soccer landscape and is now a domino effect on the NL. ECNL blew up the HS recruiting and ODP program.

ODP should be the only route to USWNT.

But now ODP is a shell of itself. It's just pay to play 2.0 nowadays.

True, but it doesn’t have to be that way. In terms of developing player, the European model is not the only way. What are they doing in Brazil and Argentina?

Sending kids to develop in Europe?

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL destroyed the youth soccer landscape and is now a domino effect on the NL. ECNL blew up the HS recruiting and ODP program.

ODP should be the only route to USWNT.

Players emerge from everywhere. The last thing we need is more gatekeepers blocking talent

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All roads should lead to the national team. Single umbrella underneath the USSF, merit based pro/rel and everything aligned with FIFA rules.

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Anonymous wrote:All roads should lead to the national team. Single umbrella underneath the USSF, merit based pro/rel and everything aligned with FIFA rules.

How does that work when there is nothing preventing other people from forming leagues? Are you going to bar parents from forming rec leagues under other or no umbrellas? Will college coaches be forbidden from recruiting kids in leagues not sanctioned by USSF? For the overwhelming majority of kids playing soccer in the us, the road does not run to the national team. Even for elite players, roads run to college, not the national team. To be exceedingly generous, there are maybe 100 people contending to be on the national team at any one time. There are 10s of thousands of youth players. No sane system will focus on those few players at the expense of the majority, and if a system does, then expect a competing system focused on the majority to emerge

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL destroyed the youth soccer landscape and is now a domino effect on the NL. ECNL blew up the HS recruiting and ODP program.

ODP should be the only route to USWNT.

But now ODP is a shell of itself. It's just pay to play 2.0 nowadays.

True, but it doesn’t have to be that way. In terms of developing player, the European model is not the only way. What are they doing in Brazil and Argentina?

Sending kids to develop in Europe?

Yep. There is a side by side comparison of a Spanish player vs a US player from u17 to present. The Spanish player was at Barca at 19 playing in their system, under great coaches, playing against top talent at practice and in games, playing in Champions league games with 90,000 people, etc. The US player was in college soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL destroyed the youth soccer landscape and is now a domino effect on the NL. ECNL blew up the HS recruiting and ODP program.

ODP should be the only route to USWNT.

But now ODP is a shell of itself. It's just pay to play 2.0 nowadays.

True, but it doesn’t have to be that way. In terms of developing player, the European model is not the only way. What are they doing in Brazil and Argentina?

Sending kids to develop in Europe?

Yep. There is a side by side comparison of a Spanish player vs a US player from u17 to present. The Spanish player was at Barca at 19 playing in their system, under great coaches, playing against top talent at practice and in games, playing in Champions league games with 90,000 people, etc. The US player was in college soccer.

That's BS. The top American 19 years olds are playing in Europe

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Anonymous wrote:All roads should lead to the national team. Single umbrella underneath the USSF, merit based pro/rel and everything aligned with FIFA rules.

How does that work when there is nothing preventing other people from forming leagues? Are you going to bar parents from forming rec leagues under other or no umbrellas? Will college coaches be forbidden from recruiting kids in leagues not sanctioned by USSF? For the overwhelming majority of kids playing soccer in the us, the road does not run to the national team. Even for elite players, roads run to college, not the national team. To be exceedingly generous, there are maybe 100 people contending to be on the national team at any one time. There are 10s of thousands of youth players. No sane system will focus on those few players at the expense of the majority, and if a system does, then expect a competing system focused on the majority to emerge

Under that model, the system will work and filter itself over time naturally. Are there going to be barriers of entry? Of course. But not like what's going on now. MLS needs isolation to function as it does. As do most other leagues that are closed with no real opportunity to get in the game and let the play do the talking.

Of course the national team isn't a place for everybody but it should be viewed as the very top of the landscape. Anywhere else in the world it's an absolute honor and privilege to wear the crest of one's country. But below that? There's plenty of opportunity to continue to play. The US, with a country as big as it is only has 94 pro men's clubs for a population of about 335 million people. So about 1 club for every 3.5 million or so. Brazil in comparison has 203 million people and 124 pro men's clubs. About 1 club for every 1.5 or so million people. There's room for growth here if done the right way, there's already so many clubs at the youth level and with more leagues getting D1 status from USSF we see it's growing. Just need to also make sure that things are aligned and working together, not competing against each other.